Gateworld Virtual Fleet 4.0 - Discussion thread

[puddlejumperOZ]

I'm sticking with my original data.....edited by Blackluster, do I need to re-post it again? Also on ship names re: the BB310 class, I'd really like to see us move away from the mythological variety and use historically significant names

BB310 class Battleship
15 Dreadnaught (lead ship)
16 Victory
17 Lexington
18 Columbus
19 Chekov (Russian ship)
20 Nelson
21 Arizona
22 Prometheus II
23 Vengeance
24 Constitution
25 Yorktown

[thekillman]

you dont like how the asgard took on the role of babysittying the galaxy after the acient ditched humankind and let the gaould run amuk?

untrue, they were a race that got dried off and they felt they had to pass on their torch. they probably didn't even have enough ancients for sufficient genetic variation. if they ever met the goauld at all, and they probably didnt

I'd really loke to see us move away from the mythological variety and use historically significant names

i don't. also greek mythology is much more part of western society than some national location like New York. if you want an international ship, don't name it the Hastings.

we stole, learned and adapted so much from the ancient greek that it´s hardly nationalistic.

besides i doubt the Germans would like a " normandy" nor would the Japanese like a "hiroshima"

[puddlejumperOZ]

untrue, they were a race that got dried off and they felt they had to pass on their torch. they probably didn't even have enough ancients for sufficient genetic variation. if they ever met the goauld at all, and they probably didnt



i don't. also greek mythology is much more part of western society than some national location like New York. if you want an international ship, don't name it the Hastings.

we stole, learned and adapted so much from the ancient greek that it´s hardly nationalistic.

besides i doubt the Germans would like a " normandy" nor would the Japanese like a "hiroshima"

That was on an example, the names could be those which reflect the international community of course. That being said, ship names always have a bearing on the people who built them and there are few names of mythology apart from the ones used in canon, that will be familiar to everybody. A ships name is a very important part of the process and it is quite easy to use historical names without offending anyone. I would seriously doubt anyone would take offence at names like "Arizona, Victory or Lexington"

[guppy338]

thats why all my ships are named after moons and stuff like that

[puddlejumperOZ]

Moons are cool, better than old Greek names, though I admit a lot of moons/planets were named by the Greeks/Romans and Egyptians

[immhotep]

Hello, im not back perse but just stopping by. Im not really sure whats been going on recently and perhaps I shouldnt try and jump in. Like to see that Gaias been reused haha, ive only read this page atm. I do have alot more time and am interested in writing again so give me a bit of time to catch up or debrief me somehow and ill hopefully be able to do something to help out.

Teps returning

PS its the 4 year birthday of the fleets on the 4th of July so anything you guys might have could be cool to launch sometime around then.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Immhotep, long time Not much is happening atm, we're in the middle of deciding the make up and tech of the Tauri fleet. Voting shortly on the format for the first new BB310 battleship class, this was my submission, edited by Blackluster

Spoiler:

BB310 Dreadnought Class

Manufacturers:
-General Dynamics Corporation
-EADS
-UTC
-Northrop Grumman Corporation
-L-3 Communications Holdings, Inc.
-BAE Systems
-Boeing Australia

Class: Dreadnought
Cost: $2,400,500,000
Registry: BB-310

Technical Specifications:
Length: 635 metres
Width: 195 metres
Height/depth: 90 metres

Engine unit(s):
- 6 Medium Ion Engines
- Auxiliary Chemical Maneuvering Thrusters
- Asgard Hyperdrive

Power plant:
Primary - 2 Mk III Capital Naquadah Generators
Secondary - 1 Mk III Captial Naquadah Generator

Shielding:
- Mk III Asgard Shields

Hull: Trinium with Naquadah/Trinium armour plating in limited areas

Sensor systems: Asgard Sensors
Targeting systems: Earth Targeting Systems
Navigation system: Computer Navigational Systems

Countermeasures:
- Self-destruct
- Venting System
- Naquadah Generator Cluster Ejection Pod
- Blast-door(s) Lockdown System

Armament:
- 4 Mk 1 Plasma Beam Cannons
- 10 Mk 1 Plasma Pulse Cannons
- 44 Mk III Railguns
- 26 Vertical Launch Missile Tubes (Mk III - IX Nuclear Missile capability)
- Horizon Weapons Platform

Complement:
- 64 F-307s
- 6 AC401’s

Crew: 380 (24 minimum)
Passengers: 760 (maximum)
Cargo capacity: 5,000 tons
180 days worth of Consumables to 220 days if rationed.

Other systems:
- IBM Contracted Mainframe
- Asgard Transporter
- 2 Ring Transporters
- Experimental Goa'uld-based Cloaking Device

Usage/ Role(s):
- Battleship
- Attack Carrier

Year Introduced: 2013-14
Affiliation: Tau’ri

[immhotep]

If someone can give me a brief tech list ill do a submission, is it too much different to previous fleets?

[Davidtourniquet]

If someone can give me a brief tech list ill do a submission, is it too much different to previous fleets?

Page 76, post 1516 Tep. They are tables in word documents.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Now that saved me a lot of seaching Dave, I was looking for that

Immhotep, maybe you could re-hash some of the other classes, as we have about 5 submissions for the B310, here is a sample of the other ships/craft

http://forum.gateworld.net/threads/7...1#post11642329

[Lt. Col. Mcoy]

This is an edited and updated version of my entry, taking into account some of 'killman's excellent comments and adding some things I forgot.

Spoiler:

Name: Athens-class
Type: Guided missile battleship
Role: Hyperspace-capable Arsenal Ship, Deep Space Command Ship
Classification: BBHG
Number: 310
Builders: UNEC Shipyards on Earth and two of the colonies
Operators: UNEC Space Forces (USF)
Baseline cost: approx. $231 billion
Built: 2018 – present
Planned: 6
Completed: 2
Active: 2
In commission: 2023 – present

- Propulsion:

~ 5 x Naquadah-enhanced Nuclear Pulse Propulsion Rockets -- $325 million

- Used only in battle conditions to reach maximum delta-v capacity.

~ 4 x VASIMR-type Magnetoplasmadynamic Thrusters -- $200 million

- Used for cruising or patrol.

~ 1 x Inertialess Maneuvering Grid -- $700 million

- Used for VTOL and maneuvering.

~ 1 x Asgard-derived Hyperdrive Unit -- $5 billion

- Includes the Hyperspace Field Emitter (HFE) and Hyperspace Window Generator (HWG).

- Achieves speeds of 95 LY/min in the intergalactic void and has a max. interstellar speed of 5.5 LY/min.

- Complement:

~ Standard crew approx. 430
~ Maximum complement approx. 2,600

- Power Generation:

~ 1 x Mk. III Naquadah generator -- $5 billion
~ 2 x Mk. I Naquadah generators for emergency power -- $1 billion

- Armor:

~ Titanium-carbon alloy with additional naquadah plating at critical areas -- approx. $80 billion

- Skeleton:

~ Titanium-trinium alloy -- approx. $64 billion

- Electronic Warfare:

~ SLQ-32(V)8 -- $13.25 billion

- Incorporates surveillance, targeting, active sensor jamming, and passive sensor denial. Some of these systems are of reverse-engineered Asgard, Goa'uld, and Hebridian design.

- Armament:

~ 2 x 18-cell Mk. I electromagnetic launch systems -- $45 million

- 72 x Mk. III nuclear missiles -- $1 billion
- 36 x Mk. IV nuclear missiles -- $532 million
- 36 x Mk. VI nuclear missiles -- $810 million
- 4 x Mk. VIII nuclear missiles -- $680 million

~ 24 x Mk. I pulse cannon -- $840 million
~ 12 x Mk. II rail-guns -- $558 million
~ 16 x Space-modified Phalanx CIWS -- $28 million

- Shielding:

~ Mk. III Asgard-based Shield -- $40 billion

- The max. strength of this shield is slightly stronger of the max. shield strength of a Daedalus-class starship.

- Other technology:

~ 3 x Ring Transport Platforms -- $3 billion
~ 2 x Asgard Beam Transport Nodes -- $12 billion
~ Life support system, Mk. II -- $15 million

- Allows for longer duration trips than the Mk. I system, and includes a hydroponics room for food production.

~ Long-range and short-range communications arrays -- $1.2 billion

- Includes subspace, radio, and laser communication units.

~ 2 x External ports which can dock anything from Puddle Jumpers up to a pair of slightly modified Horizon Weapons Platforms.

~ Historical Notes ~

In 2017 the United Nations of Earth decided that the growing threat from the Lucian Alliance merited the creation of a dedicated warship to back the multi-role Daedalus-class. The United States and China preferred to operate the more versatile 304’s, but many of the European nations put their money into a newer, larger vessel.

After months of prototyping the plans for a battleship were finalized, and the hull of the BBHG-310-01 was laid in 2018. In contrast to the 304’s, the 310 design focused on long-range missile salvos rather than unguided munitions or fighter coverage. As such, the 310’s would have no internal docking bay at all, but conceded to the need for docking facilities with a pair of eternal ports. These ports were also designed to dock modified versions of the Horizon Weapons Platform, increasing the 310’s’ already impressive armament (though the Horizon is not considered a standard weapon). It was decided that the ships of the 310 designation would have names taken from ancient Greek city-states, and the 310-01 was christened the UES Athens.

The Athens was constructed at a shipyard in Great Britain, and she launched in 2023. After testing her hyperdrive with a short jump to Chulak, the Athens escorted a pair of Free Jaffa Republic Ha’tak to a four-way summit between the FJR, UNE, the Hebridians, and the Tok’ra.

Three months after her maiden voyage, the Athens saw her first action in a small skirmish with Serrakin smugglers near one of the Hebridian colonies. She was more than a match for the mid-sized craft operated by the group, and was easily able to disable the ships. The Hebridians impounded the rouge craft and apologized for the incident.

A second 310, the Olympia, was begun two years after the Athens at a shipyard in Siberia. She was completed in 2025, and was assigned to permanent station-keeping over Earth. Four more 310’s are planned, and each will have command authority over the space forces of four colonies. This effectively divides the area controlled by the Tau’ri into five operational sectors (Earth and four regions containing four colonies), and leaves one 310 available for emergencies.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Good ship Mcoy, btw do we have to cost all the ships components? I would but I'm kind of limiting my typing atm.

[Lt. Col. Mcoy]

Wow some of these ships sound briliant, I congratulate you all on an job well done. Does voting begin Monday?

Yes. This afternoon I'll post links to all the entries, and we can start voting. Voting will end on Tuesday.

To clarify; are we going with the system where people with entries get two votes: one which may be for their own and one which must be for someone else's? That seems to be a good system.

Hello, im not back perse but just stopping by. Im not really sure whats been going on recently and perhaps I shouldnt try and jump in. Like to see that Gaias been reused haha, ive only read this page atm. I do have alot more time and am interested in writing again so give me a bit of time to catch up or debrief me somehow and ill hopefully be able to do something to help out.

Teps returning

PS its the 4 year birthday of the fleets on the 4th of July so anything you guys might have could be cool to launch sometime around then.

Tep! You're back!

Our new back-story is in the New GateWorld Virtual Fleet story thread, if you want to look it over!





It's fine if you can't cost it all, Admiral; it's not vital. Someone else can if they have time.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Yes. This afternoon I'll post links to all the entries, and we can start voting. Voting will end on Tuesday.

To clarify; are we going with the system where people with entries get two votes: one which may be for their own and one which must be for someone else's? That seems to be a good system.



Tep! You're back!

Our new back-story is in the New GateWorld Virtual Fleet story thread, if you want to look it over!





It's fine if you can't cost it all, Admiral; it's not vital. Someone else can if they have time.

Crikey I've been promoted...again

Thanks Mcoy, Looking at the other spec data I think mine is under costed anyway, I was using current CVN costs as a guide, but I think it has to go up a bit...quite a bit.

BTW I'm only a Commander atm The Admiral bit came from Awinita, but she is insistant though

[thekillman]

ok Voting Day, so this is my final entry (only added the Multipurpose bay, since i forgot to add it in this format)

notes: this thing isn't built for subtlety, it's designed to scare enemies away and defuse situations just by appearing. if this thing shows up, our enemy prays it gets the mercy of surrender. Mark VIII's being fired at you is not a pretty sight. a quick death is easily granted.
additonally this ship might be a sledgehammer but it's also a surgical tool. it's wide array of weapons (NOTE: Standard armament, it can switch nukes and missiles as desired) ensures it picks the best tool for the job. it can either purely overwhelm defences with the powerful nukes, or 'gently' deplete enemy shields and disable the craft via the railguns. the ship's CIWS can destroy missiles and fighters with relative ease. additionally, the full fiber-optic network ensures that incomings are automatically destroyed while enemy ships -in autotarget mode- are destroyed with the right amount of firepower. Mark VIII's are considered too valuable for a nuke spam, and in stead are capital killers only.



Name: Gaia-Class
Type: Battleship
Role: Hyperspace-capable Combatant ship, Deep Space Command Ship
Baseline cost: approx. $200 billion


Crew:

-400+


Size:

-approx. 600 meters in lenght, 80 meters in height and some 200 meters in width.


Propulsion:

-Magnetoplasma Drive System, based upon the VASIMR engine.

-Inertialess Drive System.


Power Generation:

-2x Mark III Naquahdah Reactor (1.8Gt/s Max output)
-5x Mark I Naquahdah Generator

Armor:
-Composite Poly-alloy armor
~A plate consists of 3 layers: the Sacrifice, Thermoblock and radioblock.
~The first layer is a Sacrifice Material layer, which takes most of the damage. It is an alloy of several elements, including Nickel, Titanium, Aluminium, Iron, Chromium and Tungsten.
~The second layer is designed to stop the rest of a plasma attack. it consists of mainly Sillicium Carbine, Sillicium Nitride and Nickel aluminide.
~The last layer is a primarily structural layer and radiation-stopping material. it consists mainly of lead, steel, and naquahdah.



Skeleton:
-high-performance Nickel-Trinium Alloy.

Electronic Warfare:
-Fully networked computer system which optimizes performance of the ship.(CON: Central Optic Network)
~there is no wireless network for the standard computers. the entire ship is networked via fiber-optic cables. the mainframe is a crystal computer, and crystal-based computing technology is ubiquitious. small routers are placed throughout the ships to provide a wireless network for handheld computers. their range is sufficiently limited to prevent remote hacking. a secure subspace channel links this ship to others of it's class and any ship which has CON installed.
~among other functions, this system compares sensor data to data from the ship's databanks. known critical systems and weakspots are then targeted.

Armament:


-12 Vertical Electromagnetic Launch System
~84x Mk VI(1GT) Warhead

-4 Forward Electromagnetic Launch System
~16x Mk VIII(50GT) Warhead

-18x Tau'ri Plasma Pulse Turret
~2 cannons per turret, includes sensor array and targeting computer.
~240KT per shot, 1 shot per 3 seconds = 80KT/s per cannon.

-12x Goalkeeper CIWS (modified for space).
~each has it's own sensor pod.

-22x 111MJ Railgun.
~sufficient ammo to allow all guns to fire 10 minutes.


Shielding:

-shields are human design
~the BB's shield strenght is that of a deadalus class (around launch time, not after upgrades, including Mckay's shield improvements and years of research)
~there are 2 generators present to ensure maximum integrity: "forward" and "aft" shield generators.

Other technology:
-there are 6 Ring Transports for internal use.
~these operate similar to the atlantean transporter booths. a touchscreen displays a general outline of the ship, the user touches the right ring transport, steps in the ring, and once the sensors determine nobody's in the dangerous area, the rings activate. manual imput allows transportation to the ground.

-the ship is equipped with 3 Asgard Beam Nodes

-power conduits are Superconductive Naquahdah alloys. these are placed deep inside the ship behind seperate ceramic panels. the conduits are placed in perfect vacuum.

-a multi-purpose bay is present on the ship.
~this bay is similar to the Bomb Bay of the Apollo. this bay can be used as a bomb bay for Horizon platforms, custom weapons, sattelite deployment, as an F-302 bay (no combat landings, docking is only possible via a slow approach), Jumper Bay, Gunship Bay or F-100 Bay.
~this allows the BB-310 to perform extraction missions deep behind enemy lines, or to deploy all sorts of custom weapons and objects. this is only necessary when smaller ships can not perform such tasks, like when under heavy fire.



Costs:

Shield: approx. 76 billion $
Hull: 4.8 million
ammo: 1430 million
Engines: 1 billion
Hyperdrive: 1 billion
reactor: 25 billion
Mark I generators: 30 million
Rings: 6 billion
targeting systems: 4 billion
sensors; 10 billion
asgard transporter nodes: 18 billion
Mark VIII nuke: 16 billion
Mark VI nuke: 4 billion

total : 160 Billion
the "missing" 40 billion includes the plasma weapons and misc systems


Firepower:

Railguns: 60 T/s (60 Tonnes of TNT per second)
plasma weapons: 2880 Kt/s
Nukes: 884 GT

(note: the nuke firepower seems a lot, but the Mark VIII's account for 800GT, the Mark VI's for 84 GT.)