What else we haven't talked about yet? Here are a few wild and harsh spinoff / SG movie ideas :
Spinoff idea 1) - Stargate : Genesis
A new adventure of Ancients, who has just arrived to the Milky Way from the Ori galxy. They just established their first stargate network (universe type of gates). Maybe the main character could be based on the younger Janus, who is a time traveller anyway. Ancients would meet their future allies (and enemies) for the first time here. The story could still have some connection to the current timeline on Earth through a time loop.
Spinoff idea 2) - Stargate : Titan
A tv show about the era when we can see the last decadent years of Four Great Alliance as it being corrupted by different hostile threats. The old gate system was replaced with a newer version in the Milky Way . The new connection of formerly isolated worlds would cause a galaxy wide civil war instead of peace and prosperity. The show would end with the death / flee / ascension of the Ancients, but they would also send a few new seed ship to place stargates in the other galaxies around the Milky Way. Most of the Ancients worlds became extinct and abadonned, so the galaxy suffered a mass extinction.
Spinoff idea 3) - Stargate : Legacy
A tv show would follow the decendants of Ancients who returned from Atlantis to Earth. They try to secretly protect Earth after the rebellion against Ra and to overthrow the Goa'uld Empire. So they establish a new alliance of the advanced races against the spreading Goa'uld. They could use a new hidden Ancient outpost base on the Moon (or the Great Library of Alexandria) while the Mediaterran sea is under the control of the Roman Empire. Later this alliance (the Roundtable) is betrayed and their attempts will fail.
Spinoff idea 4) - Stargate : Academy
A tv show would follow a new group of heroes, who rediscover the mythical, long lost school planet in the Milky Way which played an important role in the past, but then it was abadonned. They have to stop a new alliance of hostile forces, who blocked the FTL drive in the whole Milky Way and they started galaxy wide attacks against advanced human and Jaffa worlds. This new hostile race studied and upgraded their own stargate network, so our heroes must find a way to save both galaxies from their control with the help of old and new allies and restore the broken peace.
Spinoff idea 5) - Stargate : Valhalla
This adventure could follow an expedition to the Othala galaxy, where Earth must prove that they are the real heir of the Asgard legacy against the evil Vanirs.
Spinoff idea 6) - Stargate : Exodus
A new alien discovery on the Moon would lead mankind into a new galaxy where they could finally meet the builders of the Stonehenge, who use their own transportion methods.
Spinoff idea 6) - Stargate : Homeworld
The new show would continue the daily work of the Homeworld Security, who tries to protect Earth from unimaginable galactic dangers.
etc.
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I always tried to imagine the Four Great alliance the following one:
- Ancients : explorers - the equality vote on the council
- Nox : voice of peace, nature, diversity - the isolationist vote on the council
- Asgard : voice of technology and achievement
- Furling : voice of violence, control of space, war
I don't know why I have always felt that is how the SG universe should work. Obviously I don't want to copy the Babylon 5 where the two ancients races (the Vorlon and the Shadow) played with the younger races on their own ideology. And we also don't want again a super overpowered enemy race (like Reapers from Mass Effect), so I believe the FGRA could have been broken up as a combination of different problems (ideology war, rebelling minor races, attacking major races), so soon it or later we would find out how the Furlings have gone and the Goa'uld have risen.
Since we don't know how BW and RCC imagine the timeline and the different eras of stargate, they could introduce and plan so many settings in advance like I have done it with a little improvisation. So if we could see what happened in the past then we could make "crossovers" in the future etc. Maybe advanced races have raised up and fallen, so they could introduce so much different type of shows. Anyway I am just dreaming.
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I have rewatched the two Ashen episode the "2001" and "2010". Well.. They have gone with ships to the Volian world, but later they have found the stargate and managed to dial their homeworld. So technically they must know the 2 fixed location the Ashen and the Volian world.
1. So they can simply calculate a potential next solar system as I have written above or even with random dialing...
2. Maybe they kept the ambassador alive, so they could interrogate him. Lucky us he hasn't been on other planets and I doubt the Ashen have got memory adapting technologies (like the Tok'Ra or Galarans (SG-1 9x13)).
3. We also know that the Ashen terraformed a gas giant into a sun. So there won't be too much solar systems in the Milky Way where we could see such Tatooine type two-sun system. But we know their coordinates anyway... The question is what if an other race of visitor have entered into their space via space ships or via stargate.
Because just imagine that somebody will find the Ashens and they look like a friendly ally. What would the Aschen do in the Milky Way? Or how could the status quo quickly change? Maybe they would stay in the background for a few years to not meet with the Tau'ri directly, but after they will collect enough informations I am sure they would go for vengeance.
1. I believe they would try to eridicate the Jaffas (and humans) with biological weapons. Not everybody have got tretonin, so they would be still vulnerable even to symbionte poison.
2. Same with the Tok'Ra. I doubt that the Rebel Jaffas wouldn't try to eridicate them once for all.
3. If a hostile force would discover that the weakest part of the Loyal Jaffas and the Rebel Jaffas is the tretonin, then I am pretty sure that everybody would like to capture or to destroy the Pangar. We can only hope that the Tok'Ra would have more secret facilities where they have improved the tretonin in the first place. The tretonin could be also similar to that live extending drug what the Ashen could offer, so maybe we could make references between the two cases.
4. Earth is very-very vulnerable because of the offworld bases. So maybe they can't destroy Earth directly because of the Iris, but probably they would hurt us other ways through our first colonies.
Anyway when I talked about the biological hazards... We could still study the swarming giant flies (from season 2 "Bane") or even the R75 bugs (season 9 "The Scourge"). They could be used as biological weapons against any world, so it could be introduced as a morally questionable method how to defeat our enemies. I doubt that the Aschen would have problems with it.
Or the Ashens could be even carefully introduced as a time travelling enemy. What if they studied the solar flares and they managed to go back or to go forward in time. Even their artificial second sun could cause wormhole problems between the Aschen-Volian distance.
Or they could be introduced back as a main villain that they would capture the replicator signals from Dakara in season 8 and maybe that would lead to some discoveries how can find out the locations of other planets. If astargate was also dialed simultaneously in the neighbourhood solar system then soon it or later the same weakened wave must have reached them as an cho. So the Ashen supercomputers and satellites could find out easier the distance from the time difference, then the potential coordinates. That sounds clever and logical, isn't it?
And who knows? Maybe they have relocated their own stargate after the black hole incident on the Volian, so maybe they started the experiment on spacegates and gateships as well.
So anyway... Even if we could rescue them, we should find a right motivation how they would stepup as a major threat to the galaxy and what would their goal be in a long-term. That is the reason it is a bit hard to involve the Ashen as they are so overpowered that it wouldn't be believable how could we defend ourselves. They play the same role like Thanos in Marvel, so they fight against overpopulation, but if they could have a dozen planets, maybe they would change strategy. That is the reason I will believe they could be pefect for the following revelation.
We could learn about a chronicle of a human race, what played and active role a long-long time ago, but later it would be revealed that they were also the Aschen. I could imagine them as they accidentally have gone back in time (as they are the master of solar flares by observing satellites), so the Ashen have infected and murdered the Ancients 10000 years ago. That would be a really dark plot twist.
It would be funny to make an episode called "2100", where a group of Aschens have gone forward in time and they will learn some essential informations (maybe about their own defeat), so then they try to travel back in time to eridicate the Ancients once and for all. Maybe they could be responsible for creating the brain attacking infection in the past... Or even the genetic degenaration of the Asgard or the near extinction of Furlings. But if it could happen, then how would we prevent that they destroy humanity on Earth in the past? That could be explained in an other time travelling adventure...
Spinoff idea 1) - Stargate : Genesis
A new adventure of Ancients, who has just arrived to the Milky Way from the Ori galxy. They just established their first stargate network (universe type of gates). Maybe the main character could be based on the younger Janus, who is a time traveller anyway. Ancients would meet their future allies (and enemies) for the first time here. The story could still have some connection to the current timeline on Earth through a time loop.
Spinoff idea 2) - Stargate : Titan
A tv show about the era when we can see the last decadent years of Four Great Alliance as it being corrupted by different hostile threats. The old gate system was replaced with a newer version in the Milky Way . The new connection of formerly isolated worlds would cause a galaxy wide civil war instead of peace and prosperity. The show would end with the death / flee / ascension of the Ancients, but they would also send a few new seed ship to place stargates in the other galaxies around the Milky Way. Most of the Ancients worlds became extinct and abadonned, so the galaxy suffered a mass extinction.
Spinoff idea 3) - Stargate : Legacy
A tv show would follow the decendants of Ancients who returned from Atlantis to Earth. They try to secretly protect Earth after the rebellion against Ra and to overthrow the Goa'uld Empire. So they establish a new alliance of the advanced races against the spreading Goa'uld. They could use a new hidden Ancient outpost base on the Moon (or the Great Library of Alexandria) while the Mediaterran sea is under the control of the Roman Empire. Later this alliance (the Roundtable) is betrayed and their attempts will fail.
Spinoff idea 4) - Stargate : Academy
A tv show would follow a new group of heroes, who rediscover the mythical, long lost school planet in the Milky Way which played an important role in the past, but then it was abadonned. They have to stop a new alliance of hostile forces, who blocked the FTL drive in the whole Milky Way and they started galaxy wide attacks against advanced human and Jaffa worlds. This new hostile race studied and upgraded their own stargate network, so our heroes must find a way to save both galaxies from their control with the help of old and new allies and restore the broken peace.
Spinoff idea 5) - Stargate : Valhalla
This adventure could follow an expedition to the Othala galaxy, where Earth must prove that they are the real heir of the Asgard legacy against the evil Vanirs.
Spinoff idea 6) - Stargate : Exodus
A new alien discovery on the Moon would lead mankind into a new galaxy where they could finally meet the builders of the Stonehenge, who use their own transportion methods.
Spinoff idea 6) - Stargate : Homeworld
The new show would continue the daily work of the Homeworld Security, who tries to protect Earth from unimaginable galactic dangers.
etc.
* * *
I always tried to imagine the Four Great alliance the following one:
- Ancients : explorers - the equality vote on the council
- Nox : voice of peace, nature, diversity - the isolationist vote on the council
- Asgard : voice of technology and achievement
- Furling : voice of violence, control of space, war
I don't know why I have always felt that is how the SG universe should work. Obviously I don't want to copy the Babylon 5 where the two ancients races (the Vorlon and the Shadow) played with the younger races on their own ideology. And we also don't want again a super overpowered enemy race (like Reapers from Mass Effect), so I believe the FGRA could have been broken up as a combination of different problems (ideology war, rebelling minor races, attacking major races), so soon it or later we would find out how the Furlings have gone and the Goa'uld have risen.
Since we don't know how BW and RCC imagine the timeline and the different eras of stargate, they could introduce and plan so many settings in advance like I have done it with a little improvisation. So if we could see what happened in the past then we could make "crossovers" in the future etc. Maybe advanced races have raised up and fallen, so they could introduce so much different type of shows. Anyway I am just dreaming.
* * *
I have rewatched the two Ashen episode the "2001" and "2010". Well.. They have gone with ships to the Volian world, but later they have found the stargate and managed to dial their homeworld. So technically they must know the 2 fixed location the Ashen and the Volian world.
1. So they can simply calculate a potential next solar system as I have written above or even with random dialing...
2. Maybe they kept the ambassador alive, so they could interrogate him. Lucky us he hasn't been on other planets and I doubt the Ashen have got memory adapting technologies (like the Tok'Ra or Galarans (SG-1 9x13)).
3. We also know that the Ashen terraformed a gas giant into a sun. So there won't be too much solar systems in the Milky Way where we could see such Tatooine type two-sun system. But we know their coordinates anyway... The question is what if an other race of visitor have entered into their space via space ships or via stargate.
Because just imagine that somebody will find the Ashens and they look like a friendly ally. What would the Aschen do in the Milky Way? Or how could the status quo quickly change? Maybe they would stay in the background for a few years to not meet with the Tau'ri directly, but after they will collect enough informations I am sure they would go for vengeance.
1. I believe they would try to eridicate the Jaffas (and humans) with biological weapons. Not everybody have got tretonin, so they would be still vulnerable even to symbionte poison.
2. Same with the Tok'Ra. I doubt that the Rebel Jaffas wouldn't try to eridicate them once for all.
3. If a hostile force would discover that the weakest part of the Loyal Jaffas and the Rebel Jaffas is the tretonin, then I am pretty sure that everybody would like to capture or to destroy the Pangar. We can only hope that the Tok'Ra would have more secret facilities where they have improved the tretonin in the first place. The tretonin could be also similar to that live extending drug what the Ashen could offer, so maybe we could make references between the two cases.
4. Earth is very-very vulnerable because of the offworld bases. So maybe they can't destroy Earth directly because of the Iris, but probably they would hurt us other ways through our first colonies.
Anyway when I talked about the biological hazards... We could still study the swarming giant flies (from season 2 "Bane") or even the R75 bugs (season 9 "The Scourge"). They could be used as biological weapons against any world, so it could be introduced as a morally questionable method how to defeat our enemies. I doubt that the Aschen would have problems with it.
Or the Ashens could be even carefully introduced as a time travelling enemy. What if they studied the solar flares and they managed to go back or to go forward in time. Even their artificial second sun could cause wormhole problems between the Aschen-Volian distance.
Or they could be introduced back as a main villain that they would capture the replicator signals from Dakara in season 8 and maybe that would lead to some discoveries how can find out the locations of other planets. If astargate was also dialed simultaneously in the neighbourhood solar system then soon it or later the same weakened wave must have reached them as an cho. So the Ashen supercomputers and satellites could find out easier the distance from the time difference, then the potential coordinates. That sounds clever and logical, isn't it?
And who knows? Maybe they have relocated their own stargate after the black hole incident on the Volian, so maybe they started the experiment on spacegates and gateships as well.
So anyway... Even if we could rescue them, we should find a right motivation how they would stepup as a major threat to the galaxy and what would their goal be in a long-term. That is the reason it is a bit hard to involve the Ashen as they are so overpowered that it wouldn't be believable how could we defend ourselves. They play the same role like Thanos in Marvel, so they fight against overpopulation, but if they could have a dozen planets, maybe they would change strategy. That is the reason I will believe they could be pefect for the following revelation.
We could learn about a chronicle of a human race, what played and active role a long-long time ago, but later it would be revealed that they were also the Aschen. I could imagine them as they accidentally have gone back in time (as they are the master of solar flares by observing satellites), so the Ashen have infected and murdered the Ancients 10000 years ago. That would be a really dark plot twist.
It would be funny to make an episode called "2100", where a group of Aschens have gone forward in time and they will learn some essential informations (maybe about their own defeat), so then they try to travel back in time to eridicate the Ancients once and for all. Maybe they could be responsible for creating the brain attacking infection in the past... Or even the genetic degenaration of the Asgard or the near extinction of Furlings. But if it could happen, then how would we prevent that they destroy humanity on Earth in the past? That could be explained in an other time travelling adventure...
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