Fanfic Pet Peeves

[jckfan55]

Why do fics always say Jack's name is Jonathan? His ID says John and I always thought Jack was a nickname for John not Jonathan.

[Womble]

Why do fics always say Jack's name is Jonathan? His ID says John and I always thought Jack was a nickname for John not Jonathan.

Gateworld Omnipedia refers to O'Neill as 'Jonathan "Jack" O'Neill'.

[Skydiver]

the fic is 'room for today' on my site. Check it out and see what you take away from it

[slurredspeech]

Probably has been mentioned at some point, as most things have, but I stumble upon it yet again and just ack!

So, listen up people who have never been kissed?. Sam and Jack, or Shepard and McKay or Daniel and Thor or any two beings with nostrils will - I repeat, most definitely will - be able to kiss for longer than a minute without having to 'come out, gasping for air' or, I don't know, die of suffocation. (Unless their sinuses are clogged or they're underwater, in which case... wut?) In fact, if there are no immediate dangers to Earth and they have nothing better to do, they could go on like that for hours without experiencing hypoxia. Trufax.

Please just stop interrupting your OTP's make-out sessions every 30 seconds 'because they need oxygen'. They saved the galaxy on more than one occasion. They are perfectly capable of inhaling air through their nostrils.

[Aragon101]

Probably has been mentioned at some point, as most things have, but I stumble upon it yet again and just ack!

So, listen up people who have never been kissed?. Sam and Jack, or Shepard and McKay or Daniel and Thor or any two beings with nostrils will - I repeat, most definitely will - be able to kiss for longer than a minute without having to 'come out, gasping for air' or, I don't know, die of suffocation. (Unless their sinuses are clogged or they're underwater, in which case... wut?) In fact, if there are no immediate dangers to Earth and they have nothing better to do, they could go on like that for hours without experiencing hypoxia. Trufax.

Please just stop interrupting your OTP's make-out sessions every 30 seconds 'because they need oxygen'. They saved the galaxy on more than one occasion. They are perfectly capable of inhaling air through their nostrils.

You my dear just brouht me THIS CLOSE to snorting my drink out my nose. Bravo!

They're kissing with thier mouths... not their noses. it is possible to multitask as far as breathing, we do it all the time inperceptibly

What really goads my toad is the tongue action :@ I don't know about anyone else, but if a girl tries to taste my lunch AFTER i've eaten it, i'm more than a little put off.

Reminds me of the simpsons where they were trapped in the tent, and Moe starts "hoarding" air. Groundskeeper Willie does mouth to mouth and sucks his lungs dry

and just adding, smut that reads like a porno. Just.. no... No.

[iamdragonrider]

are you sure they weren't attempting resusitation?

[Pitry]

You my dear just brouht me THIS CLOSE to snorting my drink out my nose. Bravo!

Ah, but would it have been through one nostril or two?

[Celandine]

Not sure if it has been mentioned here or not, and frankly I'd rather not peruse through pages and pages in this thread to find out, so excuse if it has.

My number one pet peeve, behind grammar errors, is writers who don't take my advice for a fic when I am beta'ing it for them. They either feel the story arc is fine, their facts are fine and/or their grammar is fine and any or all my suggestions are a mute point as far as they are concerned. Why the heck did I bother in the first place if you weren't open to a differing of opinion? *shakes head*

[Aragon101]

Not sure if it has been mentioned here or not, and frankly I'd rather not peruse through pages and pages in this thread to find out, so excuse if it has.

My number one pet peeve, behind grammar errors, is writers who don't take my advice for a fic when I am beta'ing it for them. They either feel the story arc is fine, their facts are fine and/or their grammar is fine and any or all my suggestions are a mute point as far as they are concerned. Why the heck did I bother in the first place if you weren't open to a differing of opinion? *shakes head*

Ditto, i've had this happen to me (didn't even know until the stoyr had been published) and when i asked it was pretty clear my opinion and thoughts were ignored in favor of their own. why even ask me then? Granted yes, it is their story, but dont' come asking me about something becase you want to know my thoughts on a subject, and then disregard them because they don't match your own.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Not sure if it has been mentioned here or not, and frankly I'd rather not peruse through pages and pages in this thread to find out, so excuse if it has.

My number one pet peeve, behind grammar errors, is writers who don't take my advice for a fic when I am beta'ing it for them. They either feel the story arc is fine, their facts are fine and/or their grammar is fine and any or all my suggestions are a mute point as far as they are concerned. Why the heck did I bother in the first place if you weren't open to a differing of opinion? *shakes head*

Point taken Celandine, but the trouble is with a lot of ameteur writers (me included) is that sometimes advice is given as Aragon can attest to and the writer goes wtf? I have no clue as what you are referring to. I have had Denise and Sam both beta my stuff, and mostly it's fixed but.....

Ditto, i've had this happen to me (didn't even know until the stoyr had been published) and when i asked it was pretty clear my opinion and thoughts were ignored in favor of their own. why even ask me then? Granted yes, it is their story, but dont' come asking me about something becase you want to know my thoughts on a subject, and then disregard them because they don't match your own.

.....Sam I have not the slightest clue on how to change the dialogue without fussing with the storyline

[Aragon101]

Point taken Celandine, but the trouble is with a lot of ameteur writers (me included) is that sometimes advice is given as Aragon can attest to and the writer goes wtf? I have no clue as what you are referring to. I have had Denise and Sam both beta my stuff, and mostly it's fixed but.....



.....Sam I have not the slightest clue on how to change the dialogue without fussing with the storyline

LOL i wasn't even thinking of you mate

gimme a second, i'll grab the line in question...

"Cam, it appears we have two bogies on our six. Mmm, interesting. We learnt at the Bega site that the Ori pilots were pretty much useless on their own...farmers, peasants and villagers pressed into service by the Priors. Stuck in a fighter and taught only how to basically get the thing aloft, point and shoot." He had a habit of talking rapidly while he was in the heat of battle, but he also knew when to be silent.

Okay i definitely noticed the "talking rapidly line" you added, but i still think.

"(insert Aussie curse a la "Bloody hell!" or "Cor Blimey!") Where'd they learn that?! I though the Ori were dirt farmers, not pilots!"

Could have said just as much in less that half the words, especially since they're under fire.

In a sidenote, again i'll reiterate i'm not a fan of SG1/A swearing like sailors. Yes they can swear, but less is definitely more unless you have an OC that grew up in Washington DC during the crack era and learned to speak english like a gangsta *shifty eyes*

[sbz]

We've talked about the writer/beta relationship a lot. I think the biggest thing that always comes down to is finding the right match. You need to mesh in personality and writing style. You need to trust the other person's opinion and be confident that they know what they're talking about. And you need to be comfortable enough with each other that the beta will tell the writer the bald truth and the writer won't take offence.

If you have all that then, in puddlejumper's case:

Point taken Celandine, but the trouble is with a lot of ameteur writers (me included) is that sometimes advice is given as Aragon can attest to and the writer goes wtf? I have no clue as what you are referring to. I have had Denise and Sam both beta my stuff, and mostly it's fixed but.....

...even if you are going "wtf?" presumably you'll listen because you trust the beta and believe they know what they're talking about, even if you don't get it - in which case, a really good beta should be able to explain it in a way you understand.

[Skydiver]

profanity should be the punctuation in a fic, not the main part

[puddlejumperOZ]

LOL i wasn't even thinking of you mate

gimme a second, i'll grab the line in question...



Okay i definitely noticed the "talking rapidly line" you added, but i still think.



Could have said just as much in less that half the words, especially since they're under fire.

In a sidenote, again i'll reiterate i'm not a fan of SG1/A swearing like sailors. Yes they can swear, but less is definitely more unless you have an OC that grew up in Washington DC during the crack era and learned to speak english like a gangsta *shifty eyes*

Ah yes that line, well I did take your advice on everything else but I felt that had to be left as was, because Mac was making a statement which was relevent to a little background bio on the Ori pilots and was a lead in for the next part, as you may recall, was the fact they weren't all Ori

We've talked about the writer/beta relationship a lot. I think the biggest thing that always comes down to is finding the right match. You need to mesh in personality and writing style. You need to trust the other person's opinion and be confident that they know what they're talking about. And you need to be comfortable enough with each other that the beta will tell the writer the bald truth and the writer won't take offence.

If you have all that then, in puddlejumper's case:



...even if you are going "wtf?" presumably you'll listen because you trust the beta and believe they know what they're talking about, even if you don't get it - in which case, a really good beta should be able to explain it in a way you understand.

That's how I see it, and so far, both D and S have steered me in a....reasonably straight line. If I've strayed a little it's only because of my own stupidity

profanity should be the punctuation in a fic, not the main part

Actually I've often found profanity of the absolute course varity turns me off a fic, a subtle line such as

Spoiler:

Bloody hell, or damn! or He is gonna be so pissed

generally conveys a much bolder statement

[Aragon101]

Ah yes that line, well I did take your advice on everything else but I felt that had to be left as was, because Mac was making a statement which was relevent to a little background bio on the Ori pilots and was a lead in for the next part, as you may recall, was the fact they weren't all Ori



That's how I see it, and so far, both D and S have steered me in a....reasonably straight line. If I've strayed a little it's only because of my own stupidity



Actually I've often found profanity of the absolute course varity turns me off a fic, a subtle line such as

Spoiler:

Bloody hell, or damn! or He is gonna be so pissed

generally conveys a much bolder statement

I tend to agree, but it also depends on the character.

Take Sam for instance, the worst she might say is the S word in my head and that's when she's frustrated beyond belief. She'd probably mimic O'Neill with a "for crying out loud!" or some scientific curse like "Damn you Issac Newton!"(Equal Opposite Reaction)

Most of the SG characters are relatively well spoken, and would only curse or swear in a very frustrating situation. Didn't Cam swear a few times?

If its an OC, it would depend on their dialect. I've been both criticized and praised for my own OC Dan Drake's tendancy to use certain words as adjectives, verbs, nouns, and even adverbs through some creative use I even made a joke out of it in one part where someone asks him why he swears so much since it's so uncouth, and he just shrugs and says that's how he learned English, he doesn't even realize he's swearing unless someone brings it up. He even swears in his explanation!

I have plenty of friends who otherwise are intelligent, (one's even going to MIT soon) and their vocabulary is horrendous But when someone makes light of it, they don't even realize they're using foul language. Since Dan Drake is modeled off someone who grew up in rough streets, it makes sense for him to loosen up his vocabulary when he's relaxed or angry.

I think Dave Chappelle put it best though. "Everyone is bilingual, Job Interview, and Street Vernacular."