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The Atlantis Expedition had two main divisions, the military side headed by Sheppard who answers to the expedition leader and the science side (primarily civilians), they never said who the leader of the scientists was but the show basically put McKay in that role.
Separate from that would support staff like medical, cooks, logistics, technicians, etc. There would also be a handful of personnel who handle diplomatic talks with locals.
The science division and the support personnel would most likely be a mix of civilians and military. If Sam Carter was a part of the expedition (but not its leader) she would likely be sporting 2 hats, a military officer (and a likely team leader) and a scientist looking for big honking space guns as she did on SG-1.
Any archeologists on the expedition (if not visiting like Daniel) would probably be their own sub-department answering to the science head.No Sam w/o a Jack and no Jack w/o a Sam.
It's like and immutable law of the multiverse.
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Thanks so miuch everyone! I loved the show but I couldn't remember if anyone said 'I'm on X spire and you're on Y' I just remember it's easy to get lost if you're new.Price for Pain What do you mean violence isn't the answer?
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This has probably been asked and answered many times before.
What are the measurements for a staff weapon?
How long is it? How wide at it's widest point?
I'm thinking in terms of concealment. A Zat gun would easily fit in an average sized briefcase.
(Come to think of it, I've seen photos of P90s in specially adapted briefcases)
How about a fishing rod bag? Would that do?sigpic
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The Sodan staff weapons were shorter. It goes from the emitter to just after center handle that has the controls. They would fit a bag for fishing rods or maybe golf clubs.
Here is a shot of Teal'c arriving at the SGC at the end of Children of the Gods.
From GateWorld's screencap gallery of Babylon for a Sodan weapon.No Sam w/o a Jack and no Jack w/o a Sam.
It's like and immutable law of the multiverse.
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Can a military offiicer thke over hte suties of a diplomat when it's not a crisis? I know Shppard can take over for Woolsey in a crisis, but if Woolsey went on vacation, I'm pretty sure a substitute would be sent in instead of Shepard talking over a diplomatic role.
Can someone esplain the chain of command?Price for Pain What do you mean violence isn't the answer?
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Originally posted by WraithRichard View PostCan a military offiicer thke over hte suties of a diplomat when it's not a crisis? I know Shppard can take over for Woolsey in a crisis, but if Woolsey went on vacation, I'm pretty sure a substitute would be sent in instead of Shepard talking over a diplomatic role.
Can someone esplain the chain of command?
But without giving too much away, in the series of SGA books I'm reading, Woolsey is temporarily away from Atlantis and on Earth, so John steps in for Woolsey and then Major Lorne steps in for John. But as you said that would be in an emergency type situation.
As for non emergancies. Maybe they would get someone else I don't know. But John has been left in charge of Atlantis a couple times in none emergancies by Elizabeth.sigpic
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Sheppard should NEVER have been given command of Atlantis (nor should have Carter either), it is a civilian operation with military support. Weir or Woolsey should have had a standing 2IC to take care of the base in case of incapacitation as it is a civilian base. If POTUS get's incapacitated, JCOS does not take over, the civilian VP does.
HOWEVER.....
Given the remote nature of Atlantis and limited personnel it's entirely possible that Sheppard was tasked with "double duties", like pretty much all of the Atlantis team.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Science is separate from the military operations too, right? IS Atlantis a 'three-part' mission (military, diplomacy, science), or is there something I forgot?Price for Pain What do you mean violence isn't the answer?
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Fiat justitia et pereat mundus. Fiat justitia ruat caelum.
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The wiki doesn't explicitly say, but it says there was the intention to study it before they even discovered it's location and the phrase 'also sent [military]' so it looks like its main purpose is science, which would make it a civilian project.Last edited by WraithRichard; 12 October 2020, 08:40 AM.Price for Pain What do you mean violence isn't the answer?
Burn It All Away Blood moves the heavens. Fire purifies the land. Legends change worlds. Destiny burns.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Fiat justitia et pereat mundus. Fiat justitia ruat caelum.
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Originally posted by WraithRichard View PostScience is separate from the military operations too, right? IS Atlantis a 'three-part' mission (military, diplomacy, science), or is there something I forgot?
I get what you are saying, but under US law/structure (which seems to be the basis of Atlantis) there are only 2 branches that have power, Military and Civilian. Both have multiple branches beneath them but they are the root departments of the expedition.
There can be military scientists, doctors and diplomats, or more accurately people trained in the fields who work directly for the military, but that is not how Atlantis was initially set up.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by iiradned View PostThe Sodan staff weapons were shorter. It goes from the emitter to just after center handle that has the controls. They would fit a bag for fishing rods or maybe golf clubs.
Here is a shot of Teal'c arriving at the SGC at the end of Children of the Gods.
From GateWorld's screencap gallery of Babylon for a Sodan weapon.
Sound about right?
So a large-ish fishing rod bag would do the job.sigpic
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And if it's all we only pass this way but once, what a perfect waste of time.
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Originally posted by BruTak View PostOk, so we're talking about 7 feet long and six inches across the base for a full size staff weapon (Chris Judge being 6 ft 3 ins tall), and five feet long and six inches for a Sodan staff?
Sound about right?
So a large-ish fishing rod bag would do the job.
It's a weapon of fear ,not practicality (as carter showed off brilliantly).
Zat's are far more functional that staff weapons.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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It's more that my characters are trying to be as unobtrusive as they can getting from point A (US embassy, London) to point B (Russell Square Gardens in London) by public transport.
One character has the Zat (possibly also a Ribbon device) in a secure briefcase chained to his wrist, the other has the Staff Weapon in the bag slung over their back.sigpic
Long before you and I were born, others beat these benches with their empty cups,
To the night and its stars, to the here and now with who we are.
Another sunrise with my sad captains, with who I choose to lose my mind,
And if it's all we only pass this way but once, what a perfect waste of time.
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