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    You know how the Royal Navy has toasts drunk in the officers mess?
    For example, there's the Loyal Toast to the Queen - normally proposed by the most junior officer present.

    Then there's toasts for each day of the week, "Absent friends", "Our ships at sea.", "A willing foe and sea room.", "A bloody war or a sickly season.", that sort of thing.

    Since Starfleet sort of evolved out of the world's navies, do we think that it has any toasts and mess room traditions?
    The Loyal Toast being made to the Federation President maybe?
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    Long before you and I were born, others beat these benches with their empty cups,
    To the night and its stars, to the here and now with who we are.

    Another sunrise with my sad captains, with who I choose to lose my mind,
    And if it's all we only pass this way but once, what a perfect waste of time.

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      Any real liquor I've seen on Starfleet vessels seem to come from personal stock and not part of the ship's official rations. Of course by the Next Generation era replicator supplied liquor was most likely to be synthehol based. Meaning, all one has to do is simply concentrate for a bit and all the inebriation and hangover is gone just like that.

      If Starfleet does have toasts at meals it most likely be reserved for formal occasions as all regular meals the officers eat that I've seen in Star Trek, they eat what the crew eats using the same utensils. Unlike in wet navies today, enlisted crew eat in the mess buffet style with multi-section trays, paper napkins and utilitarian utensils. While officers eat in the wardroom with table clothes, cloth napkins, ceramic dinner plates, classier utensils, and waiters (called stewards) to serve and clear.

      Star Trek was written by Americans and they mostly look towards the US Navy which is a dry (in terms of alcohol) navy. Contrast to the British Royal Navy which to this day each sailor has a daily ration of beers and ales with wine and harder stuff reserved for the officers. During WWII whenever British and American ships operated together, senior enlisted crews of both sides would barter with each other with the Americans getting real liquor and the Brits getting ice cream.
      No Sam w/o a Jack and no Jack w/o a Sam.
      It's like and immutable law of the multiverse.

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        Originally posted by iiradned View Post
        Any real liquor I've seen on Starfleet vessels seem to come from personal stock and not part of the ship's official rations. Of course by the Next Generation era replicator supplied liquor was most likely to be synthehol based. Meaning, all one has to do is simply concentrate for a bit and all the inebriation and hangover is gone just like that.

        If Starfleet does have toasts at meals it most likely be reserved for formal occasions as all regular meals the officers eat that I've seen in Star Trek, they eat what the crew eats using the same utensils. Unlike in wet navies today, enlisted crew eat in the mess buffet style with multi-section trays, paper napkins and utilitarian utensils. While officers eat in the wardroom with table clothes, cloth napkins, ceramic dinner plates, classier utensils, and waiters (called stewards) to serve and clear.

        Star Trek was written by Americans and they mostly look towards the US Navy which is a dry (in terms of alcohol) navy. Contrast to the British Royal Navy which to this day each sailor has a daily ration of beers and ales with wine and harder stuff reserved for the officers. During WWII whenever British and American ships operated together, senior enlisted crews of both sides would barter with each other with the Americans getting real liquor and the Brits getting ice cream.
        so, make a compromise, rum raison ice cream :-D

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          Do ribosones and cell components count as nanites? Everything I find on them calls them macromolecular machines. And I also see references to cell components when researching nanites. And would identifying these structures in a fluid be a good way to identify something as a noncellular organism?

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          Stargate spin off series: Stargate Millennium
          https://www.fanfiction.net/u/5580179/StargateMillennium

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            StargateMillenium, you might want to try in the fanfic helpdesk, as that is more specifically scientific and technical.

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            What was the Pegasus alpha site like around the time of The Siege, I wanted to write a What-If fanfic about the Atlantis Expedition trying to survive in the Pegasus Galaxy in the timeline without the ZPM, (the ZPM was obtained in Moebius, a time travel episode, in case you didn't remember) but I don't remember what the Alpha site was.
            Me? take over the world? of course not.

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              What's the helicopter equivalent to a fixed wing aircraft waggling its wings?
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              Long before you and I were born, others beat these benches with their empty cups,
              To the night and its stars, to the here and now with who we are.

              Another sunrise with my sad captains, with who I choose to lose my mind,
              And if it's all we only pass this way but once, what a perfect waste of time.

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                Originally posted by BruTak View Post
                What's the helicopter equivalent to a fixed wing aircraft waggling its wings?
                A crash in the making...
                Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
                Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 10 of SG-1

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                  Originally posted by BruTak View Post
                  What's the helicopter equivalent to a fixed wing aircraft waggling its wings?
                  Truth be told I can't even imagine your description. The closest thing I can think of are tiltrotor aircraft like the V22 Osprey.

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                  Stargate spin off series: Stargate Millennium
                  https://www.fanfiction.net/u/5580179/StargateMillennium

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                    I kind of thought that dipping the nose while in a hover might fit the bill. Does that sound about right?
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                    Long before you and I were born, others beat these benches with their empty cups,
                    To the night and its stars, to the here and now with who we are.

                    Another sunrise with my sad captains, with who I choose to lose my mind,
                    And if it's all we only pass this way but once, what a perfect waste of time.

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