'The Prodigal' (514) General Discussion

[jelgate]

Apparently Sheppard is not the only one capable of morally questionable acts. Go Teyla

[rarocks24]

Apparently Sheppard is not the only one capable of morally questionable acts. Go Teyla

She certainly isn't going to lose any sleep over it.

I wonder what's going to happen to Michael's hybrids now that he's dead...

[jelgate]

She certainly isn't going to lose any sleep over it. I wonder what's going to happen to Michael's hybrids now that he's dead...

What happen when you kill any tyrant?

Someone rises to power and takes over.

[Biokinetica]

I would say in this situation that the fall was a convenient plot device. The real drama was whether Teyla would deliberately ensure that Michael would plunge to his death or exercise mercy and save him. A fall from such heights is so much more dramatic in this case!!

It's effect on me is null. Teyla's decision to to push him off was also as predictable as the ocean tides. I found no drama here.

[rarocks24]

It's effect on me is null. Teyla's decision to to push him off was also as predictable as the ocean tides. I found no drama here.

Yes, it was very predictable. That's what made it so exciting. You knew, then and there, it was over. And those few seconds of hesitation, before she actually did it.

Epic.

[IMForeman]

Man, Banks kicks ass!

And what I really liked about this was that Sheppard actually used the suggestion I was coming up with while watching. I kept saying "Use one of the Jumpers in the Underwater Jumper Bay." And he did.

I called it!

[the fifth man]

Yes, it was very predictable. That's what made it so exciting. You knew, then and there, it was over. And those few seconds of hesitation, before she actually did it.

Epic.

Personally, I knew Michael wasn't getting out of this one for sure when he stepped outside way up there like that. I knew it would be his last stand.

Great episode, pretty much from start to finish.

[Briangate78]

Personally, I knew Michael wasn't getting out of this one for sure when he stepped outside way up there like that. I knew it would be his last stand.

Great episode, pretty much from start to finish.

At that point I knew it also. I loved how Sheppard went after him and Teyla followed. It was just done very well for my taste. The music/score was also perfect. I hope this episode gets rated high. It deserves it.

[Vis Uban]

Man, Banks kicks ass!

And what I really liked about this was that Sheppard actually used the suggestion I was coming up with while watching. I kept saying "Use one of the Jumpers in the Underwater Jumper Bay." And he did.

I called it!

Same here! The underwater jumper bay immediately sprang to mind. And surprise, surprise, they actually used it! Normally they forget things like the underwater jumper bay.

I also have to say I loved Michael in this episode. Those outbursts he had with Teyla really showed just how affected his civilized demeanor was. A mask that he put on to appear reasonable, which cracked whenever he became extremely angry. And on a totally unphilosophical note, I LOVED the fight scenes! Ronan Vs. Michael was much more intense than I thought it'd be. And truly nothing against Ronan intended, but it was nice to see him actually lose a fight. For the longest time, you knew he'd beat the tar out of anyone he went up against, and it was actually surprising, not to mention realistic, to see him lose. You almost never see a villain defeat one of the heroes in a knock-down-drag-out fight, then it happened again with Shepard. Also, the fights were excellently choreographed; it truly looked like both fighters in each battle gave everything they had, no "Oh come on!" moments I could see.

On a separate note, it was also actually pretty cool to see Shepard do as well, if not better, than Ronan, in a hand to hand fight. In these later seasons, they've considerably dumbed down Shepard's combat skills, instead allowing Ronan to do most of the major fighting. I find myself missing the Shepard from "The Storm" who took out sixty men, all by himself, and this episode gave him back some of his former glory. All in all, I actually really liked this episode; it had good philosophical, "meaning of life" stuff, as Daniel would put it, humor, a pretty good plot, and awesome fight scenes. Definitely a good episode.

[freyr's mother]

My only problem with this episode is that he should have never been able to get to atlantis.

1.) The controls on the PJ are ATA

2.) Shouldn't atlantis detect a pulse of energy in the gate room and automatically respond kind of like what was done in Hot Zone

3.) (to beat a dead horse) The controls on the PJ are ATA

4.) How the hell did he get an iris code? It's not likely that ppl would give the code away.

5.) Why didnt the team that was captured and gave info to him give him a phony iris code that would make atlantis base raise the shield like in Forsaken with jonas and the chick.

[IMForeman]

My only problem with this episode is that he should have never been able to get to atlantis.

1.) The controls on the PJ are ATA

Michael had a clone of Carson Beckett in his posession for 2 years. Carson not only has the ATA gene, but pioneered the gene therapy to give others the ATA gene. He no doubt forced Carson to give him the gene, or made his own version of the gene therapy using the gene from Carson's biology. It's pretty likely that he gave all the Hybrids the gene.

[the fifth man]

At that point I knew it also. I loved how Sheppard went after him and Teyla followed. It was just done very well for my taste. The music/score was also perfect. I hope this episode gets rated high. It deserves it.

You know I totally agree with that.

It was great to see Shep go up against Michael like that. But Teyla had to end it. It just seemed right.

[Vis Uban]

My only problem with this episode is that he should have never been able to get to atlantis.

5.) Why didnt the team that was captured and gave info to him give him a phony iris code that would make atlantis base raise the shield like in Forsaken with jonas and the chick.

As Kolya would say, "with the time tested combination of strong drink and weak minds." Or in this case, torture and weak minds. That's the only answer I can reasonably think of, though it is obviously not the best. I guess that team really needs a new leader...

Oops...actually responding to pt. 4 of your post, (grins sheepishly)...

[Briangate78]

Michael had a clone of Carson Beckett in his posession for 2 years. Carson not only has the ATA gene, but pioneered the gene therapy to give others the ATA gene. He no doubt forced Carson to give him the gene, or made his own version of the gene therapy using the gene from Carson's biology. It's pretty likely that he gave all the Hybrids the gene.

Michael has always been a step ahead of Atlantis with using their own technology against them. He is no dummy.

[Rockhound]

Great Episode!!!! Connor Trineer is awesome as usual.
TEYLA!!!! She's back.... you go girl. Nice to see her save John's butt
for once. Ronan & Woolsey - great! Banks - my new favorite female on
Atlantis. One of the best episodes!!!