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i am quite aware of what happens and am kind of okay with it, i got over the fact that John and Elizabeth were not going to be together, regardless of my feelings towards that area in the legacy novels. i m actually okay with John ending up with
Teyla, i told one of my friends and i quote 'you were right Sheppard ends up with Teyla and she did a little happy dance
later i asked her how happy she was about it, she said that it felt good.
as for Atlantis rising,i have been reading it and i'm quite happy to read it it actually brings a huge smile to my face when i'm reading. i hope John and Elizabeth reunite.
You might want to check out John/Teyla thread then. While pretty much all of us here enjoy John and Teyla friendship, and we all like Teyla, we're not interested in them as a romantic relationship. if we were, we wouldn't be on this thread.
As for legacy books, aside from writing style, as several other posters ahve pointed out, there are canon mistakes and what I would call not very flattering treatment of Teyla's character. I wrote "Box of Dreams", I dealt in-depth with Teyla, and I never ever, through five seasons of the show, had slightest feeling that teyla would go for a one night stand with someone, especially someone she knew for a long time (since she was a child). Athosians are a small and close knitted group, they put a lot of importance on interpersonal connections and friendships, and one night stand can mess that up. It doesn't have to, but it can. Also, considering the fact that teyla spent a big part of season 4 searching Kanaan, wishing to reunite with him. In season five it was pretty clearly shown that she was living with him, and that she felt content and happy about that. I don't understand the choice of authors who decided to degrade Kanaan to babysitter who didn't matter to teyla at all, especially after these facts which were on screen, aka canon.
Jo Graham wrote considerable amount of fanfiction before she started writing Legacy series. i have read her fics and I know what her treatment of Elizabeth was like. She portrayed her as cold, distanced and barely - friends with John. Considering that this was part of John/Teyla fanfiction (which is entirely fine to write), I think JG decided to reinterpret John and Elizaneth's interactions to suit her purposes in fanfiction she was writing. She is welcome to do so in fanfiction, because fanfiction is meant to consider what - ifs and take things in other direction of the canon. One would expect exactly the opposite from book series which was, as authors have implied, supposed to be continuation of the series. What series, though? I don't think it's a continuation of SGA we actually watched. Which is why many of us think that Legacy is simply fanfiction you have to pay for.
I very highly doubt there would be a single interaction between Elizabeth and John in legacy books, and I truly don't inted to find out. My fannish time is limited after all. After reading the first book, I decided that the rest would probably be a waste of time.I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.
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Originally posted by Anuna View PostJo Graham wrote considerable amount of fanfiction before she started writing Legacy series. i have read her fics and I know what her treatment of Elizabeth was like. She portrayed her as cold, distanced and barely - friends with John. Considering that this was part of John/Teyla fanfiction (which is entirely fine to write), I think JG decided to reinterpret John and Elizaneth's interactions to suit her purposes in fanfiction she was writing. She is welcome to do so in fanfiction, because fanfiction is meant to consider what - ifs and take things in other direction of the canon. One would expect exactly the opposite from book series which was, as authors have implied, supposed to be continuation of the series. What series, though? I don't think it's a continuation of SGA we actually watched. Which is why many of us think that Legacy is simply fanfiction you have to pay for.
I very highly doubt there would be a single interaction between Elizabeth and John in legacy books, and I truly don't inted to find out. My fannish time is limited after all. After reading the first book, I decided that the rest would probably be a waste of time.
I stopped reading after the first one too, not soley because of the shipping which I really don't think should be part of canon in Stargate. It hurts too many of the fans who were backing other ships. (Sparky, McShep, Teyla/Ronon, etc.) Or those who just don't like shipping in SG. Just needless IMO. The other things that I was unhappy about were the disruption of the team element and the wacky Wraith names. Those just did me in. Like you stated, OK for fanfic, not for a sanctioned continuation of the series. :Osigpic
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Originally posted by Lythisrose View PostKind of like 50 Shades of Grey?!
I stopped reading after the first one too, not soley because of the shipping which I really don't think should be part of canon in Stargate. It hurts too many of the fans who were backing other ships. (Sparky, McShep, Teyla/Ronon, etc.) Or those who just don't like shipping in SG. Just needless IMO. The other things that I was unhappy about were the disruption of the team element and the wacky Wraith names. Those just did me in. Like you stated, OK for fanfic, not for a sanctioned continuation of the series. :O
You're right. SGA fandom is diverse and there are many different ships and it feels kind of selfish to pelase one group and send them the message of "your ship is wrong". Nobody likes it. We all have the right to love our ships, so just like you said,shipping was needles. They could have focused on action, adventures, technobabble and friendships, with occasional comedic moments. Everyone would have been happy about that.
Don't even get me started on Wraith names. *headdesks*I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.
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Originally posted by Anuna View Post50 Shades of Legacy? LOL!!
You're right. SGA fandom is diverse and there are many different ships and it feels kind of selfish to pelase one group and send them the message of "your ship is wrong". Nobody likes it. We all have the right to love our ships, so just like you said,shipping was needles. They could have focused on action, adventures, technobabble and friendships, with occasional comedic moments. Everyone would have been happy about that.
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Originally posted by Anuna View PostVery crazy. Something along the lines of Snowflake. So crazy, in fact, that I shut them down and forgot them. Classic defense mechanism.sigpichttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/7450657...-World-Goes-On Sparky story SGA https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10177037/1/Bad-Moon-Rising Teen Wolf fanfic story https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10573271/1/Skyfall Thor fanfic story
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Originally posted by Anuna View PostI really don't want to know.sigpichttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/7450657...-World-Goes-On Sparky story SGA https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10177037/1/Bad-Moon-Rising Teen Wolf fanfic story https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10573271/1/Skyfall Thor fanfic story
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Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Screw the Angst Wednesday and congratulations to Eri13's Georgia Bulldogs for taking down Nebraska 45-31 at the Capital One Bowl yesterday!
Originally posted by Sparky She-Demon View PostWhat is it with TPTW, and thinking that killing off well loved characters was a *good* idea?
Originally posted by Sparky She-Demon View PostYeah, the fans sure raised a ruckus to get him back. Shame the ruckus didn't work when it came to getting Elizabeth back!
Originally posted by Anuna View PostYou might want to check out John/Teyla thread then. While pretty much all of us here enjoy John and Teyla friendship, and we all like Teyla, we're not interested in them as a romantic relationship. if we were, we wouldn't be on this thread.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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And talking about names, how about the names given by the Wraith to the expedition members?sigpicsig by Erin Atlantis Rising: The Virtual series Thank you so much for "Primum Movens"
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Hiya Pearl. How's it going?sigpichttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/7450657...-World-Goes-On Sparky story SGA https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10177037/1/Bad-Moon-Rising Teen Wolf fanfic story https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10573271/1/Skyfall Thor fanfic story
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Hello Sparky She-demon. Happy New Year! I am ok, how about you?sigpicsig by Erin Atlantis Rising: The Virtual series Thank you so much for "Primum Movens"
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostGood morning, Sparkies! Happy Screw the Angst Wednesday and congratulations to Eri13's Georgia Bulldogs for taking down Nebraska 45-31 at the Capital One Bowl yesterday!
Because supposedly they wanted to "shake things up." Didn't work so well when the fans go on a rampage and the cast says the changes disrupted their chemistry.
That's because they didn't want to bring her back. Or so Joe Flanigan told me at a con a couple of years ago.
Agreed. And since this is not the John/Teyla thread, I think it might be a good idea to end this discussion here before certain people (like the mods) get annoyed with us.
Happy New Year Sparkies!Visit SGArising.com to read our virtual continuation of the Atlantis series!
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Originally posted by Pearl of Atlantis76 View PostHello Sparky She-demon. Happy New Year! I am ok, how about you?sigpichttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/7450657...-World-Goes-On Sparky story SGA https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10177037/1/Bad-Moon-Rising Teen Wolf fanfic story https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10573271/1/Skyfall Thor fanfic story
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