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Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostI don't know... I mean, if John can use his mind to turn on a hologram, or fly a puddlejumper or even fly Atlantis itself, then closing a door with his mind really shouldn't be that hard to imagine.
Now, the thing about "talking to Atlantis and Atlantis talks back"... eh, that's a bit trickier. Certainly, when you look at how the Ancients reacted when the human-form Asuran Replicators evolved from the Ancients' Wraith-killing nanites, I'd say it's pretty clear that the Ancients would probably not have been all that keen to put an artificial intelligence in charge of the city. Yet there are other clues that would seem to indicate that Ancient technology isn't totally "dumb" either. One that really sticks in my mind (and probably a lot of other peoples') is that very famous scene from Rising Part 2, where Sheppard and Ford (and a few Marines) are on their way to rescue Sumner, Teyla and the others:
Sheppard just thinks it, and the jumper provides exactly what he needs. Within its capabilities of course. Obviously, the jumpers aren't equipped with Star Trek-style food service units that just beam in the requested food.
In my personal canon, I see Ancient technology as as being "aware" in that it is capable of anticipating the needs and requirements of its users based on previous usage. Basically, Ancient technology/programming can learn and adapt to a certain extent, but at some point, it will always require the input of a human user (either through pushing buttons or a mental interface) before it can fully carry out directed tasks. So, no, Atlantis can't talk back to John. But it can open or close doors when he asks it to. (Unless they're in a lockdown situation like in Hot Zone. )
*giggles* And who's laughing now, PTW? Who's laughing? That's right, we are. Neener neener neener.
Originally posted by gateraid View PostDon't get me wrong, I like to read those fics. It's just as soon as they start I to suspend all belief (some more than others). That's what fic is for
I've only read one (?). If I could have seen Jeannie instead of Rodney-in-a-dress it wouldn't have bothered me. That was the odd thing - aside from him being a woman, pretty much everything else was in-character (aside from him being 'too' neurotic).word processorpaper leads to endless possibilities.
I think that's another "we don't really know" scenario. My impression was that they got rid of him, and he wasn't entirely surprised by it. I don't mean to sound like I'm ragging on the guy, but my impression was (based on a few of their comments) that he wasn't 'progressing' as they wanted, and probably living the high life a bit too much. I may be way off on this though. It's a real shame, because I think Ford was more like the 'everyman' character than they realised.....and then they killed him.
My understanding is that they had the 'option' to keep her there for another year (s4 SGA/s11 SG-1). It's a bit like having an automatic right of renewal on a lease - it's at the owner's discretion to roll it over.
Sheppard: WTF? Didn't friggen General Hammond himself go against orders to rescue you guys? He went off-world (risking a court martial) to find Teal'C to save your asses from Hathor just because it was the right thing to do?
Carter: Yeah, I don't believe this **** either, but this is what the IOA wants, so this is what the IOA gets
So basically John was the only one who wanted to look for anyone. Carson should've been thanking his lucky stars they stumbled across him
This is one of those "it depends what you want to believe" scenarios. I don't believe he has a 'connection' with the city in the way it is implied during fic, because it seems to be more than what the writers implied. Were it to appear in an episode though, I'd buy it *shrugs*
Universe. He meant that SG producers thought the fans would continue to watch anything they wrote, but fans gave them the finger by not watching Universe.
*flails and reminds self to start talking about Sparky again*
Originally posted by mandogater View PostGreat! The sooner the better!
Originally posted by mandogater View PostWhen Woolsey first took over and couldn't get out of the conference room, I always thought John had locked him in.
Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostSheppard: And since when have you started being the IOA's pet?
Yeah, I'm still bitter. And frankly, I think Sheppard should've been more bitter too. But Joe did the best he could with the crap writing he was given.
To hear some of TPTW talk, they never implied Sparky either. But you still accept that Sparky exists.
Originally posted by gateraid View PostWhich is the inherent flaw in the arguement - Carter is first and foremost a military officer, it's just the her current billet is Atlantis. At least doing some recon would've made sense, and probably satisfied everyone. It could have even been something off-screen.
*deliberate repost*
Originally posted by Brie View PostOne can only guess with this one...cute though, love background Sparky almost as much as seeing them upfront.
Sorry, 'Lizabeth, new procedure. Any civilians on the missions not attached to the team have to hold the hand of the team leader.
Does Radek know that Lorne will be holding his hand when they go to check on the kids?
Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostGood morning, Sparkies! Happy Lazy Sunday! And... S-minus 4 hours and 8 minutes to our Poisoning the Well post-a-thon!
Agreed. I totally want to make some sort of reference to that in Atlantis Rising, have someone criticize how things were handled. *evil grin*
Originally posted by JT-2 View PostI'm back from vacation!! And I've got like 15 pages to catch up on. And quite frankly, I'm more inclined towards a nap at the moment. But I just HAD to respond to this one before I go sleepy.
MATH BOY!!!!! OMG!! Any of you who know me outside of GW know I'm always "mathgirl24" as I was a math major. He could be the math boy to my math girl. *Happy sigh*
Anuna, you have made me so happy.
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostGreat minds do indeed think alike.
Not so fast my friend. I think "wordgirl" might complement "mathboy" a lot better. Hmm? Actually, that would be a good call sign for Elizabeth.
And welcome back.
Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostAnd... S-minus 2 hours and 50 minutes until Poisoning the Well!
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostOn the other hand, if Joe can manage to get himself (and maybe David Hewlett) in as an executive producer, well, as we say, In Joe We Trust.
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S-minus 10 minutes!(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by ShipperWriter View PostOh great. Angsty Shep fic prompt. The bunnies thank you. I hate you.
Originally posted by ShipperWriter View Post"We Spark, therefore we are."
Originally posted by ShipperWriter View PostJohn, you don't have to hold my hand on offworld missions. No one is going to kidnap me.
Sorry, 'Lizabeth, new procedure. Any civilians on the missions not attached to the team have to hold the hand of the team leader.
Does Radek know that Lorne will be holding his hand when they go to check on the kids?
And... S-minus 5 minutes! Who's ready for today's post-a-thoning snarkfest?(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostOn the other hand, if Joe can manage to get himself (and maybe David Hewlett) in as an executive producer, well, as we say, In Joe We Trust.
I'm not sure I do trust him when it comes to ship. We may have to watch something that burns our retinas.
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Everybody hit PLAY!(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostJust a quick one before we start.
I'm not sure I do trust him when it comes to ship. We may have to watch something that burns our retinas.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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