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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostOn beating up John. Sometimes I got the feeling TPTB thought that was romantic. LOL
But one has to really wonder how MGM could approve books that just ignore the parts of canon they don't like and make up stuff out of thin air to explain what they wished had happened. Are those books still being published by the way? Not much is mentioned about them.
If all you say is "ImetJoeOMGOMGImetJoe" we will still think it is interesting. When is your con? The last weekend of Nov?
For MGM the bottom line is sales and money and the more talk something gets, the more money it'll make. They don't really have to care much more about it. On rare occasions you'll get a parent company that has a personal stake in something (like ABC and how much the execs over there cared about LOST) but for the most part it's not their business to make sure merchandise makes everyone happy. While a huge outcry all on the same side might make a company sit up and pay attention, I don't think there's enough protest against any of the tie-ins to budge MGM away from the bottom line.
Originally posted by gateraid View PostThat about sums it up for me. It might've developed more than that, but TPTW never pursued it. Was that due to the actress not being available (presumably that's why what's her face was there in The Lost Tribe) or just that they kinda forgot about it?
Especially considering she would've had plenty of good scenes with Teyla in the eps following, especiallywith the loss of the Athosians, as well as her uncertainty about going back to work.
No, they didn't. *%@$!@^&$* indeed.
They considered it boring because they didn't need to do any CGI. Hot Zone, ToR, TS/TE anyone?
That's true. I know the comics and novels are popular, but not everyone reads them. And given that they never reference them on the show (they might, I wouldn't realise if they did), I've always thought of them as an AU. Which is why I don't really care about them - if it didn't happen on-screen (or at least be referenced), then it didn't really happen (for me).
True again. And there are ways of putting people in jeoprady without actually killing them too.
It might've altered somewhat if they'd actually gotten together, who knows?
I don't really count her as such. Sure, Ford, or even Lorne were, because you could slot another member of the military into their role pretty much straight away. But the same can't be said for Kate. And having her die in a dream was just lame, no matter how you look at it.
Only when it suits them, it seems
The only thing I can think of that's truly a continuation in another medium that worked was Firefly's follow up movie, Serenity. And maybe the X-Files movies, though I've still not seen the second film and I used to be a die-hard X-Phile.Visit SGArising.com to read our virtual continuation of the Atlantis series!
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Originally posted by Probie View Post28/29 Nov. I hope I will say "OH MY GOD I MET JOE!!!" with the same excitement because for the moment it's just "NO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A PLANE!!!".lol
Will it help you relax if I tell you it's true that he's better looking in person?
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostDon't worry. After you meet him, you'll be able to float home all by yourself and won't need a plane.
Will it help you relax if I tell you it's true that he's better looking in person?
I'm sure he's better looking in person. I can't wait to hea him talking in french.sigpic
Sig made by nephty and avi by Kris....THANK YOU!
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Originally posted by Probie View PostLOL
I'm sure he's better looking in person. I can't wait to hea him talking in french.
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Ladies and gentlemen, after a brief jaunt over to Propworx's office in Santa Ana, I am pleased to report that THE SPARKY MINT JAR has been officially secured at it's permanent home at Fort Kitty. Photos will be forthcoming in a couple of hours.
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostOn beating up John. Sometimes I got the feeling TPTB thought that was romantic. LOL
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostBut one has to really wonder how MGM could approve books that just ignore the parts of canon they don't like and make up stuff out of thin air to explain what they wished had happened. Are those books still being published by the way? Not much is mentioned about them.
Originally posted by gateraid View PostThat about sums it up for me. It might've developed more than that, but TPTW never pursued it. Was that due to the actress not being available (presumably that's why what's her face was there in The Lost Tribe) or just that they kinda forgot about it?
Originally posted by gateraid View PostThey considered it boring because they didn't need to do any CGI. Hot Zone, ToR, TS/TE anyone?
Originally posted by gateraid View PostThat's true. I know the comics and novels are popular, but not everyone reads them. And given that they never reference them on the show (they might, I wouldn't realise if they did), I've always thought of them as an AU. Which is why I don't really care about them - if it didn't happen on-screen (or at least be referenced), then it didn't really happen (for me).
Originally posted by gateraid View PostTrue again. And there are ways of putting people in jeoprady without actually killing them too.
Originally posted by gateraid View PostIt might've altered somewhat if they'd actually gotten together, who knows?(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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*sigh*
I miss it here.
Working on fics when I get the time, but between two jobs (47 hours this week, hooray! *sarcasm*), taking care of stuff at home, and ... oh, breathing ... I can't catch a break!
Hope you had fun at con, SK, can't wait to see pics of JAR!!!
Anuna, loved the snip from Box of Dreams!
And -- oh hey, what do you know? Back to work. Again.
Have a good night!
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostLet's face it, Larrin was the only woman he pursued. He "never saw it coming" with the rest of them. The times when he asked for her "number" and asked what's her face if she talked about him were more than he ever did regarding another woman. So I can see where non-shippers of him with one of the regular cast members could look at her as a potential girlfriend. Plus I think they had good chemistry of the "You're hot, I'm hot, whatta ya think?" sort."First Weir, then Samantha Carter, and now, you! It's a pity you humans die or get reassigned so easily, or I might have a sense of satisfaction now!"
*You got the touch! You got the poweeeeer!*
"Arise, Woolseyus Prime."
"Elizabeth..."
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostLadies and gentlemen, after a brief jaunt over to Propworx's office in Santa Ana, I am pleased to report that THE SPARKY MINT JAR has been officially secured at it's permanent home at Fort Kitty. Photos will be forthcoming in a couple of hours.
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Originally posted by Infinite-Possibilities View PostI don't think Larrin was the only one. What about Chaya? And maybe he didn't pursue Teer, but wasn't she the only one he ended up having an actual relationship with?
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Photo shoot for THE SPARKY MINT JAR is in progress...
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostOh boy, can't wait. This will call for a celebration.
Originally posted by ShipperWriter View Post*sigh*
I miss it here.
Working on fics when I get the time, but between two jobs (47 hours this week, hooray! *sarcasm*), taking care of stuff at home, and ... oh, breathing ... I can't catch a break!
Hope you had fun at con, SK, can't wait to see pics of JAR!!!
Anuna, loved the snip from Box of Dreams!
And -- oh hey, what do you know? Back to work. Again.
Have a good night!
Sorry to hear work is being such a drag on you right now; hopefully it'll let up soon!
Originally posted by Infinite-Possibilities View PostI don't think Larrin was the only one. What about Chaya? And maybe he didn't pursue Teer, but wasn't she the only one he ended up having an actual relationship with?
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostOh yeah. I conveniently forgot about them. But since they didn't last beyond one ep, they don't really count. Technically, though you could say Teer pursued him until he let himself be caught. And Chaya just vamped him. Larrin, on the other hand, was smart enough not to let him know she was interested. I think he likes the suspense and the thrill of the chase.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Ladies and gentlemen. Behold!
Spoiler:
And it seems my John and Elizabeth action figures decided they wanted to have some fun with the camera and the jar when my back was turned...
Spoiler:Elizabeth thanks John for a lovely birthday present...
And John gets his reward...
So, are we having fun yet?(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostLadies and gentlemen. Behold!
And it seems my John and Elizabeth action figures decided they wanted to have some fun with the camera and the jar when my back was turned...
Spoiler:Elizabeth thanks John for a lovely birthday present...
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/y...t%20Jar/03.png
And John gets his reward...
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/y...t%20Jar/04.png
So, are we having fun yet?
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, it's new artwork time! Remember my Sparky kids time travel story, Isn't Supposed to Be? Well, recently the muse for that story has decided to make a small come-back after being absent since March. *kicks muse* I actually managed to write a bit on it the other day, which felt awesome. Anywho... pointless ramblings aside...
I drew/created a poster/cover/what have you for the story, featuring Connor and Emily drawn by me and John and Liz inserted with the magic that is Photoshop. This was basically all I did last Saturday.
Spoiler:
So whatcha guys think?
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostLadies and gentlemen. Behold!
Spoiler:
And it seems my John and Elizabeth action figures decided they wanted to have some fun with the camera and the jar when my back was turned...
Spoiler:Elizabeth thanks John for a lovely birthday present...
And John gets his reward...
So, are we having fun yet?sigpic
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Whoo baby, we've got 11 guests in here! Sparky must be popular.
Originally posted by Erin87 View PostSQUEE! Hooray for the Sparky Mint Jar! Lol at the action figures.
Originally posted by Erin87 View PostWell, ladies and gentlemen, it's new artwork time! Remember my Sparky kids time travel story, Isn't Supposed to Be? Well, recently the muse for that story has decided to make a small come-back after being absent since March. *kicks muse* I actually managed to write a bit on it the other day, which felt awesome. Anywho... pointless ramblings aside...
I drew/created a poster/cover/what have you for the story, featuring Connor and Emily drawn by me and John and Liz inserted with the magic that is Photoshop. This was basically all I did last Saturday.
http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...onnorandem.jpg
So whatcha guys think?
Originally posted by Ankareeda View PostTHIS IS EPIC! Wheeeeeeee, I'm so happy for you! *hugs*(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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