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That JM blog was mysterious indeed. Maybe by the balancing of Carrot Cake Ice-Cream ingredients he is referring to the balance of shippy elements in the show (as others have pointed out). Or most likely, is just messing with us. He is clearly trying to cover the complaints of both sides--those who thought the ep leaned too much toward Shep/Weir and those who thought it leaned too much toward Shep/Teyla. Maybe there is going to be running theme of carrot cake now lol.
Anyway, did anyone think Shep'sSpoiler:strong reactions to Weir indicate his frustration over not being able to control her. Or, perhaps, her refusal to be totally dependent on Shep?
Also, does anyone else find it significant that we get a half confession of deep feelings form Shep in "Thirty Eight Minutes" (the first bug attack ep) and an almost admittance from Weir about her feelings from Shep the SECOND time he has a horrible Warith/bug bite?
Just curious to see if anyone has thoughts on that,
Royal
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Originally posted by Royal_NonesuchThat JM blog was mysterious indeed. Maybe by the balancing of Carrot Cake Ice-Cream ingredients he is referring to the balance of shippy elements in the show (as others have pointed out). Or most likely, is just messing with us. He is clearly trying to cover the complaints of both sides--those who thought the ep leaned too much toward Shep/Weir and those who thought it leaned too much toward Shep/Teyla. Maybe there is going to be running theme of carrot cake now lol.
Anyway, did anyone think Shep'sSpoiler:strong reactions to Weir indicate his frustration over not being able to control her. Or, perhaps, her refusal to be totally dependent on Shep?
Also, does anyone else find it significant that we get a half confession of deep feelings form Shep in "Thirty Eight Minutes" (the first bug attack ep) and an almost admittance from Weir about her feelings from Shep the SECOND time he has a horrible Warith/bug bite?
Just curious to see if anyone has thoughts on that,
Royal
Spoiler:i do see the whole she/weir thing going on in the buggin out episodes, but i hope they gve us something a little more tangable in the future eps...
hats what i think even though it may be asking too much... i hope not though
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Originally posted by Royal_NonesuchThat JM blog was mysterious indeed. Maybe by the balancing of Carrot Cake Ice-Cream ingredients he is referring to the balance of shippy elements in the show (as others have pointed out). Or most likely, is just messing with us. He is clearly trying to cover the complaints of both sides--those who thought the ep leaned too much toward Shep/Weir and those who thought it leaned too much toward Shep/Teyla. Maybe there is going to be running theme of carrot cake now lol.
Heh. Might be what he's saying...very well could be. It makes as much sense of that as anything I could think up. TPTB like generating 'talk' and 'debate' as much as possible.
Anyway, did anyone think Shep'sSpoiler:strong reactions to Weir indicate his frustration over not being able to control her. Or, perhaps, her refusal to be totally dependent on Shep?
YES! Royal, you have hit upon a great point and one angle I don't think we've looked at closely enough.Spoiler:Everything Shep did from the start of his transformation to the eventual end was about 'control'. Teyla didn't/couldn't/was afraid to stand up to him-but Elizabeth was able to. Even at the end, with her life on the line, she faced him in the eyes and stood up to the evil power overtaking him. In her office, the wraithbug/john mixture told her "This is MY life!" And her answer- "I know that." He was forced to hand her the keys and let her drive...let her make his decisions for him. We probably should look at that aspect a lot closer.
Also, does anyone else find it significant that we get a half confession of deep feelings form Shep in "Thirty Eight Minutes" (the first bug attack ep) and an almost admittance from Weir about her feelings from Shep the SECOND time he has a horrible Warith/bug bite?
Hmmmm...I hadn't really thought much about that. Interesting. I don't know if there's much to make out of it. If you really wanted to get 'into' symbolism, you could say that John is/will be transforming as a person and Elizabeth will be the reason/catalyst.
Just curious to see if anyone has thoughts on that,
Royal
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'sigh' It's official. I am...well not really obsessed...ok obsessed with this pairing! I spent part of the last three days reading J/E fics at ff.net. They're my new favorite ship! I guess it is because it is a ship that might actually have a chance. Unlike S/J there are no regs between them because she's a civilian, right?
I finished my J/E fic today. Just click on the link in my sig if you want to read it. I'm already starting a new one.
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Finished my second Shep/Weir vid.
When the Heartache Ends
Song by: Rob Thomas
Size: 10.8MB
Spoilers: Season 2, up to Conversion
Notes: Sheppard and Weir angst. Inspired by all the post-Conversion Sparky fics I read about how Elizabeth and John stick by each other through the worst of times.
Enjoy! (I hope)
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Originally posted by wizengamot
I'm no good at thinking of questions but i'm all for Q&A/deep analysis over the hiatus. Also putting in a request for Very Secret Atlantis Journals Season 2. Pretty please Athena Or had you planned on doing them over the S2-S3 break...or just not at all?
Whistler, i love your sig and i'm snagging the johnElizabeth one Of course i'll credit. Thanx
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Originally posted by gwenhwyfar'sigh' It's official. I am...well not really obsessed...ok obsessed with this pairing! I spent part of the last three days reading J/E fics at ff.net. They're my new favorite ship! I guess it is because it is a ship that might actually have a chance. Unlike S/J there are no regs between them because she's a civilian, right?
I finished my J/E fic today. Just click on the link in my sig if you want to read it. I'm already starting a new one.
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Originally posted by MelyannaOops, wasn't clear enough. I was talking about The Eye. John shoots Kolya and saves Elizabeth, and then after she tells him that no, she's not all right, he tells her she will be. Then he grabs her hand and they run out of the gate room together. It's all out of frame, but you can tell that he reaches forward and grabs her hand to get her moving. I've wondered for a while now if that was scripted, or just something JF did.
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Originally posted by gwenhwyfar'sigh' It's official. I am...well not really obsessed...ok obsessed with this pairing! I spent part of the last three days reading J/E fics at ff.net. They're my new favorite ship! I guess it is because it is a ship that might actually have a chance. Unlike S/J there are no regs between them because she's a civilian, right?
Originally posted by Blue BanrighFinished my second Shep/Weir vid.
When the Heartache Ends
Song by: Rob Thomas
Size: 10.8MB
Spoilers: Season 2, up to Conversion
Notes: Sheppard and Weir angst. Inspired by all the post-Conversion Sparky fics I read about how Elizabeth and John stick by each other through the worst of times.
Enjoy! (I hope)
a time to mourn
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