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(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Hey there, Sparkies!
Found another fun and fluffy fic to leave you with tonight:
Love Is, by chiarahhue. Elizabeth and John. Rodney. Caldwell. You can learn a lot during a snack break between meetings.
Happy reading!(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostI was thinking that too. As far as I am concerned Sparky is canon. Especially considering how this franchise does not do ship. Just look at Sam/Jack.
We have so many wonderful scenes you can't count them all. Plus GitM which pretty much everybody says is Sparkified. No matter what happens in the future John will never forget her. We can't realistically expect them not to hook him up with a lesser model. But we can choose to ignore it.
Maybe that's why they've tried to shy away from a full-on ship in SGA? They didn't want to get caught out by renewal etc?
Originally posted by Irish Eyes View PostI saw a comment on a LJ entry that made me laugh. I didn't recognize the poster so I have not idea if she leans toward any particular ship, but she didn't like GITM because it was held hostage by Shep/Weir.
Thanks! It's now working for me too. Must have been a hiccup.sigpic
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Originally posted by gateraid View PostTo be fair, some of that is due to the show not having an 'ending'. There was supposed to be a kiss in TLC (when it was a movie script) but because the show was ongoing at that point, it got scrapped. More hints in s8, then the show got renewed. Come s9, RDA wasn't there, so a one-sided relationship is a little pointless. And then, she's on SGA. I read there was a veiled S/J reference in Trio which got edited out.
Maybe that's why they've tried to shy away from a full-on ship in SGA? They didn't want to get caught out by renewal etc?
But apparently it is for Stargate. The gutless wonders strike again.
Originally posted by gateraid View Post*snort* criticism gladly accepted(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostThat's certainly possible, I suppose. And pretty darn stupid of them if it is true. If it was handled by the really good writers who are capable of pulling it off *cough*Carl Binder*cough* then it could be done, and done well, without it taking over the show and turning it into a bad soap opera in space. Other sci-fi shows, like Babylon 5 and Farscape, have been able to successfully pull off romance between main characters without upsetting the balance in storylines and characters, so it's not like it's impossible.
But apparently it is for Stargate. The gutless wonders strike again.
And worn as a badge of honor.
S/W is natural. I've never 'gotten' someone like that. Maybe that's my issue, maybe that's what I look for when I watch tv (to see something I'm missing). There's speaking, and then there's communication. The fact that they never hooked up on screen is irrelevant to me.
EDIT: Yeah, sorry, that's a rant. Good thing I stopped before I espoused my theories on what sci-fi means to some people. It's mostly to do with 'hanging a lantern' on things. Bla blaLast edited by gateraid; 21 August 2008, 11:42 PM.sigpic
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Originally posted by CaptJamieway View PostDropping off a fic. I wrote this weeks ago, but only recently thought of a title for it.
"I Know What You Did Last Night"
Summary: Is Elizabeth really seeing Evan Lorne? Featuring Nosy!Rodney and Jealous!John. (Rated: T)
[for Pajus only
Spoiler:If you want to avoid all sparky, just skip to the last paragraph. It is funnysigpic
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Originally posted by gateraid View PostI know you're not truly a sparky Pajus, but you may like this one.
[for Pajus only
Spoiler:If you want to avoid all sparky, just skip to the last paragraph. It is funnySpoiler:I am saying that I can't imagine Elizabeth being with a Sheppard-class idiot, BUT when someone tells me about a story that is well written, I set my shipping interests aside and evaluate it as such. Anuna's TSM got a 9.6 out of 10 from me. Unexpected got 5 out of 10,... I could continue. I'm just not able to write Sparky as more than friendship.
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Originally posted by Pajus View PostSpoiler:I am saying that I can't imagine Elizabeth being with a Sheppard-class idiot, BUT when someone tells me about a story that is well written, I set my shipping interests aside and evaluate it as such. Anuna's TSM got a 9.6 out of 10 from me. Unexpected got 5 out of 10,... I could continue. I'm just not able to write Sparky as more than friendship.Spoiler:Sheppard class idiot *chuckle* (sorry SR if ur reading this ). To be honest, I don't presume to know what your tastes are. I got a laugh out of the last bit. I thought you might too. I've read TSM, but not Unexpected. I'm an odd kind of sparky fan. The lovey dovey stuff doesn't do much for me, but if it is written in a similar vein to the show, its made of win
If it makes you feel any better, your (& Anuna's) Teyla/wraith stunner is actually the best ff I've ever read. If only TPTB could write like thatLast edited by gateraid; 22 August 2008, 01:55 AM.sigpic
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Hi sparkies
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostI was thinking that too. As far as I am concerned Sparky is canon. Especially considering how this franchise does not do ship. Just look at Sam/Jack.
We have so many wonderful scenes you can't count them all. Plus GitM which pretty much everybody says is Sparkified. No matter what happens in the future John will never forget her. We can't realistically expect them not to hook him up with a lesser model. But we can choose to ignore it.
Originally posted by Reiko View Post» It's a TV Show in development by David Hewlett. (Originally from the film A Dog's Breakfast). It's an dramedy like the Office but on the set of a very stereotypical, cheesy Sci Fi show. Seems like David got really good research on it in S4 and S5
» If it's greenlit (has it been yet?) I have no doubt we'll see some of the (former) SGA cast on it.
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Originally posted by southern red View Posti was thinking that too. As far as i am concerned sparky is canon. Especially considering how this franchise does not do ship. Just look at sam/jack.
We have so many wonderful scenes you can't count them all. Plus gitm which pretty much everybody says is sparkified. No matter what happens in the future john will never forget her. we can't realistically expect them not to hook him up with a lesser model. but we can choose to ignore it.
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Originally posted by Irish Eyes View PostI saw a comment on a LJ entry that made me laugh. I didn't recognize the poster so I have not idea if she leans toward any particular ship, but she didn't like GITM because it was held hostage by Shep/Weir.
Thanks! It's now working for me too. Must have been a hiccup.
Originally posted by SeNedra View PostHi sparkies
I hope they will bring Elizabeth back in the movie or if there is any possibility of another movie, so there (I would prefer Torri of course but MM would be great too). I belive that all the Sheyla think won't happen, TPTB are not very eager to write ships and this ship is no canon. Sparky is canon. As zu wrote, even S/J shippers (including me) are still waiting.
I loved Dog's Breakfast, so funny. I am really curious about Starcrossed.
I doubt there's any chance of a movie involving Elizabeth. But I hope that's just me being pessimistic again. Hey, it worked for GitM.
Boy this has been the week of meltdowns hasn't it?
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