Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[Anuna]

Just wanted you to know, even though I don't post here anymore - I faithfully look for your recap. Gives me a reminder what the golden days used to be like.

Thanks for that.

Lazy you

[justhere1971]

Lazy you

*sporks Anuna* I am lazy. I need a nap!!!

[Anuna]

*sporks Anuna* I am lazy. I need a nap!!!

Yes yes you do!

Lately I've been looking for sparky songs that could fit into S4 related fics I'm working on. This is one of them.

Spoiler:

"Hallelujah"

I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you
To a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Mabye I have been here before
I know this room, I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
Love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

There was a time
You let me know
What's real and going on below
But now you never show it to me, do you?
And remember when I moved in you?
The holy dark was moving to
And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Maybe there's a god above
And all I ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
And it's not a cry you can hear at night,
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Definitely amazing. And that part that says "love is not a victory march"? gets me every time. Perfect.

[Pajus]

*feminist rant warning*

They are sexists and think only one kind of female characters should exist out there. Writing smart women is hard. Oh but they can never take Sparky away from us. The more I think, the more I'm convinced it was more about the actors than writing.

I'm not a feminist, but I agree with you quite wholeheartedly. This is especially apparent on a little character known as Keller

[Anuna]

I'm not a feminist, but I agree with you quite wholeheartedly. This is especially apparent on a little character known as Keller

Oh that's be the little whiny cute girly and a big guy will come to your rescue. i detest that. Elizabeth isn't a caricature like that and guess what? Writing that is hard.

[Eri13]

Yes yes you do!

Lately I've been looking for sparky songs that could fit into S4 related fics I'm working on. This is one of them.

Spoiler:

"Hallelujah"

I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you
To a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Mabye I have been here before
I know this room, I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
Love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

There was a time
You let me know
What's real and going on below
But now you never show it to me, do you?
And remember when I moved in you?
The holy dark was moving to
And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Maybe there's a god above
And all I ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
And it's not a cry you can hear at night,
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Definitely amazing. And that part that says "love is not a victory march"? gets me every time. Perfect.

That's one of my all time favorites. Rufus Wainwright version?

This may go Waaaaaaaaaaayyyyy off the beaten path, but has anyone ever watched the anime Trigun? This is the song I think of for that anime because it seems to fit so perfectly.

[Anuna]

Here's a shocker: I don't watch anime. But yes, Rufus. he does wonders with that song.

Here's a John - song. Sting can write really awesome, slightly dark, weird stuff.

Spoiler:

"Inside"

Inside the doors are sealed to love
Inside my heart is sleeping
Inside the fingers of my glove
Inside the bones of my right hand
Inside it's colder than the stars
Inside the dogs are weeping
Inside the circus of the wind
Inside the clocks are filled with sand
Inside she'll never hurt me
Inside the winter's creeping
Inside the compass of the night
Inside the folding of the land

Outside the stars are turning
Outside the world's still burning

Inside my head's a box of stars I never dared to open
Inside the wounded hide their scars, inside this lonesome sparrow's fall
Inside the songs of our defeat, they sing of treaties broken
Inside this army's in retreat, we hide beneath the thunder's call

Outside the rain keeps falling
Outside the drums are calling
Outside the flood won't wait
Outside they're hammering down the gate

Love is the child of an endless war
Love is an open wound still raw
Love is a shameless banner unfurled
Love's an explosion,
Love is the fire of the world
Love is a violent star
A tide of destruction
Love is an angry scar
A violation, a mutilation, capitulation, love is annihilation.

Inside the failures of the light, the night is wrapped around me
Inside my eyes deny their sight, you'd never find me in this place
Inside we're hidden from the moonlight, we shift between the shadows
Inside the compass of the night, inside the memory of your face

Outside the walls are shaking
Inside the dogs are waking
Outside the hurricane won't wait
Inside they're howling down the gate

Love is the child of an endless war
Love is an open wound still raw
Love is a shameless banner unfurled
Love's an explosion,
Love is the fire at the end of the world
Love is a violent star
A tide of destruction
Love is an angry scar
The pain of instruction
Love is a violation, a mutilation, capitulation,
Love is annihilation.

I climb this tower inside my head
A spiral stair above my bed
I dream the stairs don't ask me why,
I throw myself into the sky

Love me like a baby, love me like an only child
Love me like an ocean; love me like a mother mild
Love me like a father, love me like a prodigal son
Love me like a sister, love me like the world has just begun
Love me like a prodigy, love me like an idiot boy,
Love me like an innocent, love me like your favorite toy
Love me like a virgin, love me like a courtesan,
Love me like a sinner, love me like a dying man.

Annihilate me, infiltrate me, incinerate me, accelerate me, mutilate me, inundate me, violate me, implicate me, vindicate me, devastate me

Love me like a parasite, love me like a dying sun
Love me like a criminal, love me like a man on the run

Radiate me, subjugate me, incubate me, recreate me, demarcate me, educate me, punctuate me, evaluate me, conjugate me, impregnate me, designate me, humiliate me, segregate me, opiate me, calibrate me, replicate me

It's intensive and disturbing in places, but I love it. Some day I'm gonna make John video with this song because it's so perfect for him.

[gateraid]

Dammit!! I haven't been able to access GW for a coupla days now. Don't know why. But every1 seems to have been making wallpaper and writing fic. Can't do either. Eri loved your Epiphany recap. Your recaps are half the reason i keep coming back here (the other half is sparky of course). Tried to comment earlier. DENIED!! Anuna have you thought of Duffy's 'Why don't you release me" song (I'm thinking of Sheppard without Weir - let me out of this torture!! It could also be a good Anti song, possibly already is). Yeah I know it's girly but I turn it up loud and sing to it when nobody else is around. We don't have specialist radio stations in NZ. It's all or nothing here.
Gotta go. Work now. Sparky rulz!!

EDIT: I could see how that song choice would confuse you Torri. I generally like rock. ish. Could recommend a good kiwi rock song (diamond in the rough - Lizzies love for John but i doubt it has gone international yet)

[Anuna]

Dammit!! I haven't been able to access GW for a coupla days now. Don't know why. But every1 seems to have been making wallpaper and writing fic. Can't do either. Eri loved your Epiphany recap. Your recaps are half the reason i keep coming back here (the other half is sparky of course). Tried to comment earlier. DENIED!! Anuna have you thought of Duffy's 'Why don't you release me" song (I'm thinking of Sheppard without Weir - let me out of this torture!! It could also be a good Anti song, possibly already is). Yeah I know it's girly but I turn it up loud and sing to it when nobody else is around. We don't have specialist radio stations in NZ. It's all or nothing here.
Gotta go. Work now. Sparky rulz!!

Oooh I'll definitely listen to that. But one song that reminds me of Elizabeth and the whole "she's not good enough to be a leader mess"? THIS SONG:

Spoiler:

"Powerless"

Paint my face in your magazines
Make it look whiter than it seems
Paint me over with your dreams
Shove away my ethnicity
Burn every notion that I may have a flame inside to fight
And say just what is on my mind
Without offending your might

Cuz this life is too short to live it just for you
But when you feel so powerless what are you gonna do
So say what you want
Say what you want

I saw her face outside today
Weatherworn, looking all the rage
They took her passion and her gaze and made a poster
Now it's moccasins we sport
We take the culture and contort
Perhaps only to distort what we are hiding

Cuz this life is too short to live it just for you
But when you feel so powerless what are you gonna do
But say what you want
Say what you want

Hey you, the one outside, are you ever gonna get in, get in
Hey you, the one that don't fit in, how ya, how ya gonna get in
Hey you, the one outside, are you ever gonna get in with your
Broken teeth, broken jaw, broken mojo
Yeah, this life is too short to live it just for you
But when you feel so powerless, what are you gonna do

Cuz this life is too short to live it just for you
But when you feel so powerless, what are you gonna do

[Anuna]

Sparky smut anyone?

To watch over her - set in season one, spoilers for "Before I sleep". Not work - place friendly and M rated. Written for friend's b day. Enjoy!

[Reiko]

LOL, I kind of grown fond of Teyla/Lorne lately. It's the influence of some friends of mine. But I can see Carson/Teyla too, if nothing else than just totally awesomely great fluff for the soul.

» And the C/T influence was from me, right? I got a lot of influence for Sparky from you guys. Too much time on the Anti thread made me realize how much I did like them together And as for Teyla/Lorne, that is probably my second favourite Teyla-'ship.

*LOL* It's funny you say that, because when I do my "Critical Mass" recap sometime early next week, Carson/Teyla will get a mention.

» Yay!

» I love Lorne with pretty much anyone. Kavan Smith exudes character just with his presence; I really wish he'd gotten more storyline before I stopped watching.[/QUOTE]

» Lorne is one of my favourites. And you're right; he does fit with pretty much anyone. I think Lorne is the only character that can override one of my picky and petty ship preferences. I like him and Teyla together. So much more chemistry than her and John. And hey, he's HOT. And short. Is he shorter than Teyla? I'm pretty sure he's shorter than Teyla for some reason. His manly shortness is attractive nonetheless

The ships work, except Ronon should have been checking on Teyla. But you can't do everything.

» That's because Ronon likes her with Carson and decided to give them some privacy

How could they possibly have thought the S2 team/family wasn't working?

» They're screwed up in the head. 1.) They wanted Carter from SG1 and her fans. 2.) "Low" ratings, and by TPTB-infected logic killing someone should compensate for that. and 3.) They wanted Keller.

Lately I've been looking for sparky songs that could fit into S4 related fics I'm working on. This is one of them.

Spoiler:

"Hallelujah"

I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you
To a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Mabye I have been here before
I know this room, I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
Love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

There was a time
You let me know
What's real and going on below
But now you never show it to me, do you?
And remember when I moved in you?
The holy dark was moving to
And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Maybe there's a god above
And all I ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
And it's not a cry you can hear at night,
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Definitely amazing. And that part that says "love is not a victory march"? gets me every time. Perfect.

» I love that song, and might make a vid for it this summer sometime eventually. I'm probably going to use the Alison Crowe version though - less common, but I'm in love with her version.

» Yay for angst-ridden songs.

[Anuna]

Yep I find both Teyla and Lorne to be very shippable. C/T was of course Reiko's influence. I should write something for them.

It's way too early here ad I wish I didn't have a lecture today.... but I do, so before I head out eventually, here's the reminder - go vote Elizabeth: http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...74#post8322774 I think it's at least fair to have her with John in final election.

[AnnaBee]

Sparky smut anyone?

To watch over her - set in season one, spoilers for "Before I sleep". Not work - place friendly and M rated. Written for friend's b day. Enjoy!

...I think you melted my computer. I know you melted my brain. Hot stuff!!

[Anuna]

...I think you melted my computer. I know you melted my brain. Hot stuff!!

Wooo hooo! Thank you!

[Southern Red]

» I love that song, and might make a vid for it this summer sometime eventually. I'm probably going to use the Alison Crowe version though - less common, but I'm in love with her version.

» Yay for angst-ridden songs.

I also love the Alison Crowe version. I bought that strange Christmas CD of hers just for that song. Strange because a lot of the songs are not really Christmas.??? Check it out here