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[JanineGrant2]

it was also hilarious to see John so jealous of James and Helen

[sggirlky]

I enjoyed the episode and hope to see more storylines that include the 5.

[Mousie]

speaking of will's grandfather... tesla was the *only* one of the five to know a zimmerman was involved in their mission. would he be able to put it together with 'will', who knows? helen never heard the name of the commander that was killed, and she never saw his face either, so she never knew she met will's grandfather. kind of sad

Did Tesla know? I don't recall that he did, as I remember it was only Nigel who knew Zimmerman's name and I don't see that he had any reason to mention it to the others. In recapping what happened when they asked he may just have said "the 56th Infantry (Or whoever they were) arrived in time to save me and helped me out when I persuaded them how important it was". Theoretically Helen might have found out his name later if she made an official mention of his bravery and wanted thanks conveyed to his family but personally I don't see that she would necessarily connect the name 50 year appart.

To me it was just a nice nod that the families had interacted much earlier than anyone knew although it would be nice to think that it came up in conversation "My grandfather died at....." "Oh really, I was there...."

[QUOTE=PrometheOSS;12645576]What an awesome episode!!!
So Let's see,
1- I can't see Helen and Watson as a couple.
2- What's wrong with this woman??? Is she trying all the men in the group??? How stupid is that.
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I can, however I see it as a more friendship, comfort and companionship based relationship that has developed a physical side. Clearly John and James had a very special relationship as well and his actions hurt Helen and James to the core. It's natural that they would turn to each other especially as they spent so much time together.

I know it's each to their own but I don't have a problem with Helen being with the others (If we discover she was with Tesla and Nigel as well, but I doubt that). I don't think she's in and out of each of their beds every day and she's old enough to be with who she want's as long as it's mutual.

I don't think any of us can imagine what it must really be like to be in their situation especially Helen, who has the knowledge in her mind that she will probably outlive them all, and that by that point they had to have been starting to disconnect with society a little simply by being different. It must make her want to cling on to James for some shred of normalicy.

[kes]

speaking of will's grandfather... tesla was the *only* one of the five to know a zimmerman was involved in their mission. would he be able to put it together with 'will', who knows? helen never heard the name of the commander that was killed, and she never saw his face either, so she never knew she met will's grandfather. kind of sad

I assume Magnus and Watson would like to know the name of the man that died for them. Plus, pretty sure Griffin would mention him to the others. Tell them what happen.
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I dont think Magnus shacking up with Watson means she circled the group. I actually think it makes sense. The type of man he is and what happen with Druitt made they're already strong relashionship even stronger. (Plus he's HOT! )

[meredithchandler73]

Did Tesla know? I don't recall that he did, as I remember it was only Nigel who knew Zimmerman's name and I don't see that he had any reason to mention it to the others.

The autotype message Nigel sent to Telsa said:
DRUITT IS A NAZI. HAS CAPTURED WATSON. HELEN MISSING IN ACTION. AM WITH 101ST AIRBORNE UNDER A CAPT J ZIMMERMAN. HAVE EVADED DETECTION SO FAR. PLEASE ADVISE. GRIFFIN.

But seriously, folks...how many Zimmermans are there in the world? I wouldn't believe Tesla would latch on to that last name and upon meeting Will say, "Hey, your ancestor helped save Nigel, James and Helen, and most certainly helped to defeat the Nazis!" Tesla's only concerns from that autotype message were that Druitt was a Nazi, Watson was captured and Helen missing.

[kes]

The autotype message Nigel sent to Telsa said:
DRUITT IS A NAZI. HAS CAPTURED WATSON. HELEN MISSING IN ACTION. AM WITH 101ST AIRBORNE UNDER A CAPT J ZIMMERMAN. HAVE EVADED DETECTION SO FAR. PLEASE ADVISE. GRIFFIN.

But seriously, folks...how many Zimmermans are there in the world? I wouldn't believe Tesla would latch on to that last name and upon meeting Will say, "Hey, your ancestor helped save Nigel, James and Helen, and most certainly helped to defeat the Nazis!" Tesla's only concerns from that autotype message were that Druitt was a Nazi, Watson was captured and Helen missing.

I think Magnus would be the type of person that would keep an eye on the family.

[Kilgharrah]

and upon meeting Will say, "Hey, your ancestor helped save Nigel, James and Helen, and most certainly helped to defeat the Nazis!"

Tesla would never say that even if he remembered. He only points out to his good traits and history. He never praises others. That's why I think it will never be mentioned.

[Kilgharrah]

...I can, however I see it as a more friendship, comfort and companionship based relationship that has developed a physical side...
...I don't think any of us can imagine what it must really be like to be in their situation especially Helen, who has the knowledge in her mind that she will probably outlive them all, and that by that point they had to have been starting to disconnect with society a little simply by being different. It must make her want to cling on to James for some shred of normalicy.

I never said they don't look as friends. Actually they were the most convincing one as friends. They are the closest, but I only see a friendship.

She won't outlive them all. Tesla is immortal. He will outlive her.

I assume Magnus and Watson would like to know the name of the man that died for them. Plus, pretty sure Griffin would mention him to the others. Tell them what happen.

This looks reasonable. Maybe that's why she saved Will in the past. She already knew him and she saw his potential. She knew he would turn up like his grandfather and be much of a help to her.

IMO, his Grandfather is a great man. I liked the character as soon as I saw him. So great that he made me forget my hatred for Robin Dunne. That is not right when it comes to Will. Will is a weak character with nothing special.

[LadyGalaxyJ]

I think Magnus would be the type of person that would keep an eye on the family.

I think so too.
However, maybe she hasn't told Will yet. I can see her waiting for the occasion to be absolutely necessary. Revealing something like that to Will would have cause him to ask questions about The Five and her past. She doesn't like talking about it that much - look how she didn't tell him about Adam until it was vital.

[EvenstarSRV]

Wow, so that's where all the budget since Pax Romana went. Being a WWII history geek, I've been excited about this episode since I first heard about it and it mostly lived up to my expectations. Though I needed a second viewing to actually understand the story since I spent the first mostly geeking out over the Thompsons, and Garands, the 506th, the tanks, etc.

Considering their budget, I thought the Sanctuary team did an impressive job production-wise. The village looked great, as did all the costumes, and those tanks were awesome. Love seeing the Five doing what they do best, and especially liked seeing so much of Griffin, since he's been relatively neglected compared to the other guys. Druitt the Nazi torturer was unexpected but quite chilling, and his scenes with Watson were fantastic. Tesla was also great as usual, didn't expect the reveal of his assistant as the traitor. While I normally don't care for it, I thought RD did a good job playing his grandfather, between the costume, accent, and acting I didn't see any of Will in his performance.

Helen was great as well, not as involved in the action as I would have liked, but it seems her strength is more getting people to risk their lives/die for her causes as opposed to always taking up arms herself. Still, the red hair and beret were cute, and I thought her scenes with the Nazi Colonel and Watson were good. I am a bit confused about the widespread assumption that Helen and James were a couple. She just called him 'darling', surely that's not unexpected for two people who've been close friends for over 50 years?

Overall I thought the storyline with the fire elemental and weather machine was pretty cool, though it seemed to drag a bit at times and required lots of exposition by the characters, though not enough to affect my enjoyment of the ep. And the dedication at the end was a very nice touch, esp only a week before Memorial Day here in the US.

Can't wait to see how Carentan in 2 weeks and how (I'm guessing) they'll tie what happened in this ep to the modern-day Sanctuary team.

So how is Griffin still young?

Yeah, that's a bit of a plot hole, since he probably should have been in his 80s. Unless maybe his long-life was due to Helen's blood like Druitt, then maybe after WWII he chose to live a normal life and die naturally.

[LadyGalaxyJ]

Yeah, that's a bit of a plot hole, since he probably should have been in his 80s. Unless maybe his long-life was due to Helen's blood like Druitt, then maybe after WWII he chose to live a normal life and die naturally.

Yeah I could live with that explanation. Especially if Jeanette is indeed Clara's grandmother. He could have stopped using Helen's blood and chose to live a 'normal' life with her. Marry, have a child and grow old.

[Morigane50]

I enjoyed to watch this episode ,to me it was done like an adventure movie with a Hollywood soundtrack which made me think of a mix between the Indiana Jones movies to the D-DAY movies . I liked it , as I liked how they mixed a sanctuary story dealing with abnormals with such a big historic event that was the landing in Normandy the 6th of June. That was very daring and the result is nice. I am french so maybe that's why I have been touched , and I appreciated that there were no cliché at all .

It is always a pleasure to see the five and the men's competition for Helen, it is funny to see that despite the fact that they are all in their 100 years of age and with all their powers , they act like child sometimes , specially when it is related to Helen and even in dramatic situation .
I liked when Helen spoke in french , she did it very well with only a slight accent which could be not detected by the german soldier who was flirting with her , the scene was funny and very plausible .
The french girl was nice too, and by seeing how she felt for Nigel , we suppose that she will become the furure Clara's grandmother .
To complete with all the characters , I really liked when they introduced the american soldiers and what we supposed to be Will's grandfather . I had the feeling that the actor changed his voice and didn't speak like as usual, I didn't recognized him first and he was very different of Will, just a family likeness which sometimes steps two generations.
Since the beginning I like the character of Will , he is totally different from the 150 years old other ones , he brings the normality and yet a kind of innocence and sentitivity . He cannot be at the level of the elder , just only because he cannot have the knowledge they all got since the 19th century, this makes him a little vulnerable when he faces Druitt or Tesla and of course Helen . His position is quite not easy , I always thought. So I found interesting to get a little more of his family history .
The end was moving whe we realise that their respective grandchildren will meet one day . I am wondering if Helen has been aware of this fact.

I'm looking forward to seeing the next episode as it is called Carentan . That's funny because I used to do some sailing with a friend and he used to let his boat in the little port of Carentan , so I know this place . It is a sign to the fact that it is not a coincidence that I became a sanctuary fan since only a few months when I discovered the TV show.
Thank you to the sanctuary cast and crew to do such a nice job for our own pleasure.

[mjwalshe]

what???

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Stens are notorious for misfires was what i was getting at

[Skydiver]

i love the band of brothers nod
easy company
that's who joined them at the end.

[LadyGalaxyJ]

I liked when Helen spoke in french , she did it very well with only a slight accent which could be not detected by the german soldier who was flirting with her , the scene was funny and very plausible .

I'm glad someone else liked that scene! I thought her French was ... cute. For lack of a better word. I was talking about it with my friend yesterday and we agreed on that. ;P I was just really looking forward to that scene only to hear her speak French.

The end was moving whe we realise that their respective grandchildren will meet one day . I am wondering if Helen has been aware of this fact.

And in the future, Clara dies in another kind of war (Helen's "We are at war." makes me believe it can be called that way.) and this time Will finds her body. So it's the other around then what happened in 1994.
That's Sanctuary for you!