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"There's not a little boy born who wouldn't tear the world apart to save his mummy... and this little boy can." --The Doctor.
"The plastic tips at the ends of shoelaces are called Aglets. Their true purpose is sinister."--The Question.
BAD WOLF!!!
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Originally posted by IMForemanSadly, no. In his article about the Time War in a DWM Annual, RTD stated that Romana was Lord President of Gallifrey when the Time War was fought. One can assume that she perished with the rest.
I've always had a theory that she was the one who saved the planet.....but that's a different thread.......My favorite Doctor Who websites;
Each episode in amazing detailed notes
Build a Dalek
Build a TARDIS
Dedicated to Pamela Nash, the woman who caused a ton of Who episodes to be missing
The Police Box Website
KNOW YOUR ROLE, AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!
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Y'know, I've been watching my S1 DVDs and I noticed that at the end of WWIII The Doctor gives Mickey a virus to upload to destroy evidence of his (the Doctor's existence). The AoL/WWIII ep is also the one where the TARDIS got graffitied with "Bad Wolf."
Now, in Love & Monsters we have the Abzorbaloff (from Glom, sister planet to Raxacoricofallapatorius) dishing up info he supposedly got from Torchwood... with some gaps caused by the Bad Wolf virus.
The link HAS to be common knowledge, but I'd never noticed it before and I don't remember it being discussed here. Mostly it was just folks saying how absolutely crap the ep was.
...Or was that what Digi meant by the virus being retconning?
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Well, I didn't expect to like this one. I'd been warned it was dire by some long time fans. But, you know...I just adored it. Yeah, it didn't have much of The Doctor or Rose in it, but surprisingly I didn't mind that at all. I thought it was hilarious. A real laugh riot.
I loved Elton and his little gang. The way they got together initially to talk about the Doctor, but slowly grew to be friends. I loved the Doctor and Rose at the start with the monster and the whole "Someone wants to talk to you/You upset my mum!". ROTFL!
Also ROTFL'd at Jackie eyeing up Elton and his naive commentary was priceless: "The fuses kept blowing out. I think this flat is jinxed."
I also found it very poignant at moments - Jackie describing her loneliness and obviously missing Mickey. Made me realise that with him gone she has no one at all she can share her worries about Rose with. No one who understands how she feels about time travelling all around the universe. And her response to being 'betrayed' by Elton was desperately sad.
Also when Elton lost Ursula - had a few snuffles then. I loved Rose's heart going out to him and her going to comfort him, even though she'd been pissed at him just moments before. A really sweet character moment.
And, frankly, anyone who loves ELO is a hero in my book.
It all got a little silly by the end - was anyone else reminded of that ad with the belly chasing the guy down the street when the Peter Kay alien was chasing Elton? Peter Kay was my only downside on this one. I've never been much of a fan of his and his personality did tend to overwhelm the alien at times, which just sounded waaaaay too weird.
And for some reason I found The Doctor suddenly yelling, "Elton! Fetch a spade!" absolutely hysterical. Although I tend to agree with ShadowMaat:
Except for the paving stone thing, which was creepy and pathetic. And I really can't imagine the Doctor condemning someone to a horrific half life like that.
So, overall, I really enjoyed this one and it's one I'll watch again. So count me in the minority who loved it, didn't mind it didn't feature our heroes much, and thought it was just a fun romp with some delightfully sweet characters.
AlbionLast edited by Albion; 29 August 2006, 07:56 AM.Listen, we had General Ryan come on and do a little cameo for us, and he's a real live four star, one of the big guys. And I had to ask him point blank, because there's a certain irreverence that I bring to the character, and denseness, but while we were doing this scene, I just looked at him and said, "Do you have guys like me in...?" and he stopped me and said, "Yes, and worse, and you're doing a fine job, son."
Richard Dean Anderson
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Although, there were the occasional good moment. However, i know some other fans have been complaigning about the Rose family, how the Doctor keeps on going back to that moment in time. I agre, I am getting tired of it, move on, give us some more off planet stuff.
However, she did surprise me, that bit while Elton was holding the Pizza was great, nice speach. I wonder what her speech will be if Rose really does die in battle.
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Nice to see I wasn't alone. This episode was a yawn. I really didn't like the characters. My sister saw this episode as her intro to Dr. Who... she fell asleep and complained when she was awake. Jackie can be annoying but she was the only redeeming part of this episode.
"You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea." - Jack Handy
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okay, my hubby and I thought it was a fairly shallow episode (Jackie's obvious flirtatous moments), considering the past 2 seasons have been better for the most part.
...Elton's personal autobiography...
not to be confused with that other "Elton" {Elton John}...
but even tho I didn't recall hearing Elton's last name, I wondered if his middle name was "John"... anyway...
Torchwood... here in the USA, the eps are a bit behind the BBC, but loved the connection to Torchwood.
Originally posted by Wraith Scientist View PostProblem is though, in The Christmas Invasion, Harriet Jones was one of few people that actually knew of Torchwood's existence, and even she wasn't supposed to know about it. Torchwood was an incredibly secret organisation that only a few people in top positions knew about.
But suddenly, in Love & Monsters, Torchwood seems to be public domain, and LINDA hacks into their files on the Doctor with seemingly no effort at all.
Maybe they went public?
or.. maybe the fat alien ate / absorbed someone who was directly connected with and privy to the secrets of Torchwood, or a rogue hacker kid (possibly similar in geeky savvy to Micky), and that's how he ("Kennedy" the alien) managed to track Elton's new group down. Maybe Elton's group were easier targets chosen for infiltrating, because as *LINDA* - they were already attempting to track the Doctor as obsessed *fans* of the Doctor, and were not military -- so they weren't necessarily deemed as "armed and dangerous" and mostly likely would be more vulnerable in executing any proverbial "divide and conquer" tactic.
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Originally posted by MarshAngel View PostNice to see I wasn't alone. This episode was a yawn. I really didn't like the characters. My sister saw this episode as her intro to Dr. Who... she fell asleep and complained when she was awake. Jackie can be annoying but she was the only redeeming part of this episode.
I'm haveing a sg-1 200 flash back but at least it had it's characters. Come on, about some slobs life who likes the doctor and wants to meet him. I boo this episode and hope this guy never shows up again and they stay with the Doctor and Rose from now on.Come see Kingomon's Stargate stories about:
Poseidon, the Ancient's King and
new enemy of the Ori
At: http://www.stargate-sg1.hu/fanfiction/
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