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    #61
    Using the perspective of a civilian reporter as a gimmick for storytelling has been a tradition for genre series for quite some time. The modern use of the gimmick actually goes back to “MASH”, which had a much-acclaimed episode devoted to a film crew visiting the 4077. (Yes, there are older examples, but that’s the one everyone seems to mention these days.) Series like “Babylon 5” used the gimmick to explore subtle aspects of political and social issues within the series’ mythos, while other shows like “Stargate SG-1” used it less effectively.

    Ron Moore (in a remarkably dirty and possibly drunken podcast for this episode) mentions a number of reservations about the episode, and I agree with most of them. I suppose what disappointed me in the end was the abrupt lack of serialization. Yes, I knew it was coming, but that didn’t really prepare me for such a stand-alone episode.

    I really couldn’t get into the whole “Tigh in jeopardy” plot element, because I don’t find his character to be sympathetic. And D’anna didn’t seem to have much of a hidden agenda, at least in terms of what she put on film and how she cut it. Until the very end of the episode, there was really no reason to question her motivations. It was good to get some fresh perspective on minor characters, and Moore got the opportunity to present “new viewers” with the mission statement of the series.

    Two things, however, factored against my enjoyment of the episode. First, that final moment was spoiled by some jerk on a Live Journal community, so I spent a lot of time during the episode trying to find clues that Moore mentioned were intentionally not there. So I was a little disappointed that it was, in fact, inserted out of left field. And then there’s the fact that episodes designed as “jumping on points” typically bug me.

    Here’s what I don’t get…it’s eight episodes into the season, and the series will be off until January in two weeks. Who really expects a “new viewer” to be tuning in now? It’s like promoting issue #589 of a comic book as a “jumping on point”. The only people likely to discover this are the established fans, who are not looking for the writers to dump something like that into the monthly schedule.

    That’s not to say that I didn’t like aspects of the episode. There have been moments, since the series began, where I wondered if this would have been better as an HBO series. This series likes to take things right to the limit, and there are some moments in this episode where I got a glimpse of what it could be without restraints. A lot of those moments were in the documentary footage, so in that respect, the gimmick worked.

    I also really liked Lucy Lawless in this role. I always thought she looked better as a blonde, and this episode confirms my opinion. I also have a thing for that accent, which doesn’t hurt. I rarely saw her as anyone other than D’anna, which I think speaks volumes of her ability. Hopefully, she’ll show up again, because that twist at the end needs to be explored.

    Speaking of the twist…I’m still trying to figure it out. So what was the point of it all? One would assume that it was all about the spying, and getting past barriers that would normally be impenetrable. The Cylons wanted to confirm that Boomer and the baby were alive, but they also seemed fascinated by the humans and their ability to transcend their flaws. I suspect that this will become an important clue in the future. Perhaps then I will be less annoying by this episode’s stand-alone qualities.

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      #62
      I don't really see what aspects of the episode made it annoying for you, the first one was your accidental reading of a spoiler, absolutely nothing wrong with the episode there. The second really was a producer's comment about the show, which again has nothing to do with the episode. "Jumping point" or not, shouldn't affect how people view it. I certainly never thought that about the episode.. though I can see that if someone were to plop on Sci-Fi at 10 pm they'd see an intriguing show with interesting characters. So I don't see why you're annoyed with the episode. Season 1 had plenty of stand alone episodes, infact season 1 was MOSTLY stand alone. The tylium raid, Starbuck being stranded (well I guess the raider was important later but it didn't technically lead into a story arc), Bastille Day (prisoner episode), Act of Contrition (Kara confronts Zak's death), etc. all of them were just like this episode (infact less of story arcs considering the twist at the end of Final Cut).

      It's to me, what made the show so over the top and put it beyond the rest, they could produce standalone episodes mixed in with long winded keep-you-guessing episodes about a cingular or multiple storylines. They did it perfectly as well. Season 2 has not had much of this because it had to 1) resolve the fleet division issue and 2) deal with getting to Earth. So now that that's out of the way they can get back to doing what season 1 did so well. Because I really think the show wouldn't be as good if it was just 1 long continuous storyline with no breath of fresh air into side characters, side plots, humorous and tragic moments, etc.

      I think Baltar has something big planned.. in the original series he was an evil traitor that did nothing for the humans but try to kill them and the cylons gave him his own base star to do just that. 6 has said numerous times god has bigger plans for Baltar, he's clearly going to be coaxed into a position of leadership among the cylons. She said he would survive after humanity is wiped out, that was her job, to keep him alive.
      "Did you really expect some Utopian fantasy to rise from the ashes?"

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        #63
        Now Playing magazine reviews this (and every) Galactica episode here:

        http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/category/7/99/47/

        Cool.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Bl4de
          I don't really think she's a cylon, I mean the scene where she's helping D'anna with the memory thing she's just trying to be friendly since she was one of the first people she met aboard the galactica, not only that but Dee has always been helpful to new people aboard the ship (Billy?), she was probably just trying to help her fit more onto 1 tape.
          It was the tone of the way she said it like they were friends, not formal or official in any form. Also she was talking directly to the reporter ignoring the cameraman who had the camera most of the time.

          And in CIC she said "thank you" for doing the report, since she realizes after all the action how hard it is on everyone there who has to deal with those things daily. It gets harder to do it because it simply does...
          Then why did she say thank you to Dee alone and not the whole bridge? Pretty much everyone had helped with the report.

          I mean think about Gaeta's job he has to deal with so much, the more and more you do it the harder it gets, there doesn't have to be a second meaning behind it. Dee looked troubled because those raiders could have killed someone or a lot of people, it wears down on them having to fight so much.
          Gaeta showed his "humaness" with the tattoo and smoking. Dee appears to have no character flaws consistent with the other cylons.

          It wouldn't have had the same impact if Dee had given a lighthearted response when asked if it gets easier, "it gets harder" seems like an emotional fit to a troublesome time.
          A tired response would have been more appropriate, she appeared quite stressed even though there was no immediate danger and she appeared to have done nothing during the attack. ie Gaeta answered the phone and talked to the viper pilots, what was Dee the communications officer doing?

          - Robert

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            #65
            Originally posted by grover
            As for Dee, I think people are reading WAY too much into her exchanges with D'Anna. Why would a Cylon Dee know how to modify a disk while Clyon D'Anna wouldn't? Makes no sense.
            Why did Number 6 seduce Baltar and not the Leoban model?

            Hmmmm maybe cylons have specialisation ;-)

            I didn't see anything suspicious about the final Dee/D'Anna scene in the CIC after the raid. The fact that Dee wasn't instantly relieved/elated doesn't make her a Cylon. In fact, I think it makes her more human. It can get harder to decompress and feel relief the more someone is exposed to a high stress situation. Her reaction post-contact could just mean she's more likely to follow a Kat-like path to medicinal relief.
            1)She hadnt exhibited any over-stressed symptoms elsewhere. Either they just started for her or something else abnormal was going on
            2)Her eyes followed the reporter as she left, like she had got some bad news, not back to the console or the now celebrating other members of the CIC which she seemd to momentarily forget about.
            And D'Anna's "Thank You" was more likely in response to Dee sharing this frightening moment with her rather than thanking her for sending off an illict message.
            The reporter had a frightening moment with everybody on the bridge. Only Dee got the thank-you.

            Besides, I still think Billy is the Cylon and he's using Dee.
            He's the right age as is Dee compared to the other models. Sorry cant think of anything else to support that though. Except perhaps when he split from Roslyn when she escaped....he gave as reason not wanting to divide the fleet which was a bit weird as he helped her escape.

            - Robert

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              #66
              Originally posted by Vyse
              Glad to finally hear the original Galactica theme music again!
              I agree with u on that!
              Ian

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                #67
                Originally posted by NowIWillDestroyAbydos
                Good episode. It was just like SG-1's Heroes (both parts), but with a better ending.
                I thought the same thing, they sorta ripped it from sg-1, and i liked hereos better.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by stargate_addict
                  I thought the same thing, they sorta ripped it from sg-1, and i liked hereos better.
                  ripped it from sg1? I don't think so this concept has been a part of tv shows for decades

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                    #69
                    Is it my imagination or did it appear that she is the Cylon Fleet Commander or perhaps even the "Imperious Leader"?

                    Otherwise how do you explain her comment that "I lost 2 Raiders getting this back to the Fleet!"

                    The others also seemed to treat her with some deference such as that she occuppied the front row of the theater.

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                      #70
                      To me this is the worst episode to date, which is not that bad considering how good most of the other episodes are. The thing that really ruined this episode for me was there was no suspension of disbelief. The plot seems very contrived to me, they just let a reporter roam around on Galactica? I agree with the Now Playing reivew, the characters seem incredibly out of character in their openness about how they feel in front of a camera. The only parts I really liked were the Tigh subplot and the final reveal. The episode is way too sappy to me for a BSG episode, especially the montage at the end of the documentary, I actually couldn't watch it I fast forwarded through it. The message is basicly "Yeah it sucks out here but were tough as hell and were never going to be beated" and that to me doesn't really fit. I also didn't like how the thing with Sharon's baby was probably a total of 30 seconds. Thats a pretty important development maybe you want to spend a little bit more time on that.

                      This episode felt like to me an excuse to give Lucy Lawless a role, and it really has no focus at all, other than to give minor characters more exposition.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by mikeforrest2003
                        Is it my imagination or did it appear that she is the Cylon Fleet Commander or perhaps even the "Imperious Leader"?

                        Otherwise how do you explain her comment that "I lost 2 Raiders getting this back to the Fleet!"

                        The others also seemed to treat her with some deference such as that she occuppied the front row of the theater.
                        she said "We lost two raiders getting this back to the fleet" and im pretty sure the having her sit in the front row alone was just a dramatic cinematic shot so we saw her last

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by RobertC
                          It was the tone of the way she said it like they were friends, not formal or official in any form. Also she was talking directly to the reporter ignoring the cameraman who had the camera most of the time.
                          It was the atmosphere of the episode at that paticular moment, people can't be chatting dark and forebodingly (is that a word?) if Kara is dancing around naked in the background. It was an open moment with a "strange little man" wandering about about to get into a humorous situation. I didn't really pick out that they sounded like friends, it sounded a bit different because it gradually faded out right as D'anna said "it's a bit old..." probably a reference to the entire Battlestar which is ancient (corded phones).


                          Originally posted by RobertC
                          Then why did she say thank you to Dee alone and not the whole bridge? Pretty much everyone had helped with the report.
                          She only talked to Dee. She kept asking her questions over and over, like "should I be scared right now?". Everyone else was busy.


                          Originally posted by RobertC
                          Gaeta showed his "humaness" with the tattoo and smoking. Dee appears to have no character flaws consistent with the other cylons.
                          Under too much stress she blanks out. In the episode where cylons board the Galactica she watched other people being murdered and she was frozen stiff, she couldn't move until Billy addressed her by rank which snapped her out of it. Military is all she knew, all she believed in as she stated in her interview (which I think revealed many flaws).


                          Originally posted by RobertC
                          A tired response would have been more appropriate, she appeared quite stressed even though there was no immediate danger and she appeared to have done nothing during the attack. ie Gaeta answered the phone and talked to the viper pilots, what was Dee the communications officer doing?
                          She seemed tired to me, "no ma'am, it gets harder *sigh*". After D'anna left she looked like she was about to collapse. And I don't know her specific duty... but I do know she was required to contact the fleet, talk to the fleet, deal with sensors around the fleet etc. I could go look up what she does exactly but she had to worry about as much as everyone else. What do those 2 guys at the entrance to CIC do (when they looked at the camera as D'anna entered which was one of the funnier parts of the episode) lol. I'm sure they were still just as stressed and worried that the human race was about to be blinked out with a bunch of nukes.

                          I think they'd give more plot into the next human cylon. D'anna was in the episode from the beginning, it was her episode so to speak, her personality swayed and opinions as well. It was all her. Just like in The Farm when we met the Doctor, it was mostly him and Kara and we learned he was a cylon. Just like Sharon, Leoban, Aaron (he had a lot of air time in the mini series), 6, etc. Seems like if we meet a new cylon we're going to be seeing a lot of them as the central part of the episode's story.

                          Just something to ponder about on our guesses to the next cylon. *COUGH I think it's Ellen COUGH*
                          "Did you really expect some Utopian fantasy to rise from the ashes?"

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                            #73
                            I don't think a high caliber actress like her will be staying long enough to be the imperious leader. It's like all celebrity cameos on tv, they stay for a few episodes for money then leave. Though I still don't know how raiders transmitted the full edited film when she was still shooting the film and it wasn't edited yet.
                            "Did you really expect some Utopian fantasy to rise from the ashes?"

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Cikak
                              I agree with the Now Playing reivew, the characters seem incredibly out of character in their openness about how they feel in front of a camera.
                              I just assumed they took this opportunity to vent, kinda like a weird therapy session.

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                                #75
                                I hadn't caught that continuity problem.

                                But I am pretty sure she said "I lost two Raiders".

                                I guess I'll have to wait for the rerun.

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