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[Gatefan1976]

I also see the value as a technique to get someone to flip. But the points the article made about privacy or divulging legal secrets that can back and bite you in the rear end...I do think there's a balance between the two that we currently don't have and ought to have.

You know, there is a fix for the accused.
Shut up and invoke the 5th.

[jelgate]

Don't listen to GF. Invoke the 3rd

[Annoyed]

Don't listen to GF. Invoke the 3rd

How the hell have you survived the firefights in here?

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

You are of course really talking about the 5th amendment.

[Gatefan1976]

Don't listen to GF. Invoke the 3rd

How the hell have you survived the firefights in here?



You are of course really talking about the 5th amendment.

I'm just amazed that "constitutional people" here think this is a problem with no solution, the answer is in the smegging constitution itself.
The article is a bloody waste of time and brain cells.

[thekillman]

Why is it so hard to understand that it's not the tools, it's the people? Any tool can be misused. I've already pointed out that it would be just as if not more effective to kill people with homemade bombs.

i don't give my nephews a chainsaw. The idea that "a tool is just a tool" completely ignores that you don't hand tools to someone who can't use them. I don't give my 4-year-old nephew a real hammer.

Besides, the USA doesn't trust a 20-year old with alcohol. Why do they trust them with guns?

[Gatecat]

The question is why? Values? Canadians aren't that much different yet they don't have proportionally the same rate of shootings. Race? Canada is whiter but the shootings here in the US are proportional to race (with white shooters being the bloodlier and more notorious than non-white). Gun Laws? Well, that actually falls into the liberal argument's favor. Lack of God in school? Europe is way worse in that regard, but way lower in gun violence. So, why?

Seriously? We actually have an unbiased religious education in school, where we not only learn to recite the bible like good Quran students. I always liked religion classes, our teachers were (and still are) open minded, kind and funny persons. We didn't only learn about our own religion and the history! but also looked into others and learned to respect different beliefs.
We also had not problem to learn about the Genesis in religion and about evolution in biology, whereas people in the US seem to have a major problem with that.

As I said before, Americans are a violent people. It's in your nature.

[thekillman]

Seriously?

I don't think he meant it that way. Simply put, (west-)Europe has a lot less god in school yet their schools aren't shooting ranges.

[Gatefan1976]

i don't give my nephews a chainsaw. The idea that "a tool is just a tool" completely ignores that you don't hand tools to someone who can't use them. I don't give my 4-year-old nephew a real hammer.

Oh, so you give them those plastic choking hazards instead??

Besides, the USA doesn't trust a 20-year old with alcohol. Why do they trust them with guns?

Because they are morons?
In the absence of validity of every other argument by those that support open slather guns, it's the only logical conclusion.
Actually, I forgot one argument, everyone gets a gun, which sounds a little socialist to me............

[Gatecat]

I don't think he meant it that way. Simply put, (west-)Europe has a lot less god in school yet their schools aren't shooting ranges.

God alone makes no religion. IMO there is more "God" in every European school than in the whole US.

Expect for France, in all compulsary schools in Europe some kind of religious or ethics education is provided by nationally certified teachers with a wide range of topics and usually unbiased. At least in Germany and here in Austria it's mandatory and especially in Austria not only for Catholics and Evangelics, but also other confessions. Also religious holidays are often
Whereas in the US no religious education is provided at schools, but is left to private organisations and religious communities. Which is compliant with separation of church and state, but on the other hand all those communities teach their specific teachings and beliefs, which is in lot of cases very radical and biased towards other beliefs and groups.
It's actually not education, but rather indoctrination.

[Falcon Horus]

Religious studies was 2h of fun really in my school -- a little learning of worldy religions and a lot of watching films. I watched Silence of the Lambs in that class. And The Mission too, but SotL first.

[Gatefan1976]

Religious studies was 2h of fun really in my school -- a little learning of worldy religions and a lot of watching films. I watched Silence of the Lambs in that class. And The Mission too, but SotL first.

[Gatecat]

We didn't watch that much movies in Hauptschule (lower secondary school), but our teacher collected our exercise books from all 4 years and let bind books from them as a graduation gift. I still have it in my bookshelf and I love to browse through it once in a while.

In professional school we used to watch a documentary, 2000 Jahre Christentum, which I found very interesting. We also watched "Life of Brian" and "Schindler's List". And I think "The Wave"...

[Gatefan1976]

We didn't watch that much movies in Hauptschule (lower secondary school), but our teacher collected our exercise books from all 4 years and let bind books from them as a graduation gift. I still have it in my bookshelf and I love to browse through it once in a while.

In professional school we used to watch a documentary, 2000 Jahre Christentum, which I found very interesting. We also watched "Life of Brian" and "Schindler's List". And I think "The Wave"...

Shoulda watched dogma.
Sill should if you haven't.

[Gatecat]

Shoulda watched dogma.
Sill should if you haven't.

I've seen Dogma and loved it.

[Falcon Horus]

..."Schindler's List"...

We watched that in middleschool (12-13 year olds) at the theater in town (now long gone) and I thought I'd lost my mind when no one else had seen the girl with the red coat. I was like, "What?! There was a girl with a red coat, I know it, I saw it. Why didn't anyone else see it!"

2 years later, we did a schooltrip to Poland and visited Auschwitz. If ever there was a busload of 13-14 year olds more quiet and subdued in a bus, then you hadn't seen us that day -- a very lasting impression on a bus full of teenagers.