Discussion about hot topics trending today

[The Flyattractor]

If I got to babysit GF's kids I would just sell them to the hamburger making facilities. Get paid more for the pound then a cheapwad like he would pay for by the hour. But then GF is a Overpaid Stock Boy.... I seriously doubt he has any kids.

[Annoyed]

I would rather let annoyed.

Emergencies aside, what makes you think I would ever consent to ride herd on your offspring?

[The Flyattractor]

Emergencies aside, what makes you think I would ever consent to ride herd on your offspring?

Slave Labor to toss chum off the back of your boat?

[SGalisa]

What *insulting* comments? Are you *that* blind that you see (words), but do NOT see (as Jesus would say)..? Jeeze, (while typing this up) even looking at the few comments posted above this posting are thick with the liberal/leftist teeth chomping bite-marks.

Go back about 2 pages and oodles of others beyond and in between previous to that.. There's been pages where nearly the entire page of comments is just dripping with thick, mucky anti-Trump resentment and loaded sarcasms. Sure, morph the initial sarcasms into something else, just to disguise poking at the original, core source. I don't need to repost them here. *you* all know who *you* are.

Most of those seem to be coming from Fly...

ummm, No. I'm not sure what side Fly is on, cause s/he/it could be playing both sides of the political field (now and then), but most of what Fly has said *seems* to be the truth of general news (there are many news videos that support some of the items discussed).

For (a recent) example--

That would be true if it weren't for the major fact that nearly if not all of the current Violence is being carried out by the leftist extremists. Like AntiFa, BLM and the like....

Yep, the 2017 riots at the University of California in Berkeley. Also, the "Antifa Movement" group(s) rioting in Portland, Oregon. ..just to name a few.

So, in this here GW topic alone, the nastier *insults* against the USA/Trump folks in general are
currently not coming from The Flyattractor, not mad_gater, not Annoyed, and not garhkal.

It *could* be at times aretood2, because you seem to have moved over to the liberal/left's political agenda in recent months, unaware of helping to promote and push those more lefty agendas.. unless you've always been there..

There's a few other folks on here -- most claiming they live somewhere far, far away outside the USA, and yet acting as if they live here, next door.. ..just saying.. UK regional zone, Europe, Australia.. just to name a few of the major league hitters.

If the liberal / leftist agendas didn't have soooooo much muckky dirt embedded in them to hide the core of their shining truth behind and for their agendas, maybe the opposing sides would be more favorable. But since Obama's administration had lots of gov't power controls, they seemed to go overboard, almost to the point of destroying what little was left for struggling homeowners and steady job workers to actually continue hanging on to. California has been the brunt of many jokes, but sadly it seems to be true, that whatever policies and failures happen in California, once those items start (morphing) bleeding into the rest of the country -- then, there goes the rest of the USA.

Did Obama really say, while he was in Indonesia that "Too Much Patriotism Is Bad"..? or
"Obama warns about too much patriotism on 4th of July weekend" (!)..? (from headline news blurbs)
Here is an article about exactly that--
"Why I'm putting the flag out Tuesday (it's not just for the watermelon)"
(by Jacquielynn Floyd, Metro columnist, article in the Dallas News
dated ? July 3, 2017 ?)


Independence Day to some folks is very patriotic, and means freedom and liberty. To many others, it is just another day off from work, with paid vacation time (lots of people will take any day off, even if they disagree with the holiday/occasion it was originally established for). To others, it is both, but take time out to *act* as if they are patriotic, even if it doesn't mean the same (or as much) in their heart as it does to our gov't forefathers and veterans of the many wars fought since 1776.

You ever notice how Fly and Soul act the same but just different political ideologies?

Ooooo. If you're implying that they are either twins or the same entity persona, then Fly would be also be attracted to FH, and that might stir up an interesting hornet's nest for conversation..

[Gatefan1976]

Emergencies aside, what makes you think I would ever consent to ride herd on your offspring?

given a choice between you or fly??

[Gatefan1976]

So, in this here GW topic alone, the nastier *insults* against the USA/Trump folks in general are
currently not coming from The Flyattractor, not mad_gater, not Annoyed, and not garhkal.

So, Me.

I have no issue with roughly 270 million Americans, there are about 40 million I disagree with on a purely "way forward" basis, and about 25 million I would not trust to water the lawn. So, less than 10% of them I really have problems with. Unsurprisingly, there is about 10% of Australia's population I would not trust to water the lawn either.

It *could* be at times aretood2, because you seem to have moved over to the liberal/left's political agenda in recent months, unaware of helping to promote and push those more lefty agendas.. unless you've always been there..

Tood has not changed, he is centre right. If he has not changed, I wonder what has..............

There's a few other folks on here -- most claiming they live somewhere far, far away outside the USA, and yet acting as if they live here, next door.. ..just saying.. UK regional zone, Europe, Australia.. just to name a few of the major league hitters.

PH, FH, GF.
Yeah, we can read behind the lines.

If the liberal / leftist agendas didn't have soooooo much muckky dirt embedded in them to hide the core of their shining truth behind and for their agendas, maybe the opposing sides would be more favorable. But since Obama's administration had lots of gov't power controls, they seemed to go overboard, almost to the point of destroying what little was left for struggling homeowners and steady job workers to actually continue hanging on to. California has been the brunt of many jokes, but sadly it seems to be true, that whatever policies and failures happen in California, once those items start (morphing) bleeding into the rest of the country -- then, there goes the rest of the USA.

Did Obama really say, while he was in Indonesia that "Too Much Patriotism Is Bad"..? or
"Obama warns about too much patriotism on 4th of July weekend" (!)..? (from headline news blurbs)
Here is an article about exactly that--
"Why I'm putting the flag out Tuesday (it's not just for the watermelon)"
(by Jacquielynn Floyd, Metro columnist, article in the Dallas News
dated ? July 3, 2017 ?)

Too much of anything is bad.

Independence Day to some folks is very patriotic, and means freedom and liberty. To many others, it is just another day off from work, with paid vacation time (lots of people will take any day off, even if they disagree with the holiday/occasion it was originally established for). To others, it is both, but take time out to *act* as if they are patriotic, even if it doesn't mean the same (or as much) in their heart as it does to our gov't forefathers and veterans of the many wars fought since 1776.

Caring about veterans has nothing to do with it, it's just the usual flag wrapping the Republicans like doing. No party has a monopoly about caring about those who fought and/or died for them.

[Falcon Horus]

As you may recall, the LSoS embarked upon his "world apology tour" in his first term, basically going around the world apologizing for everything we are and have ever been.

What kind of national leader does that?

Do you really want to know what my opinion is?

Cause I approve of a leader who can admit to the mistakes his/her country made in the past.
If it should be of interest to you, but I live in a country which has a few very dark pages when it comes to its former colony in Africa -- plenty to apologize for too.

You should at least be happy he never apologized for the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

And it seems only his 'critics' were calling it an "apology" tour.

Obama’s ‘apology’ complex
Why this president sees himself as a force for confronting complicated truths about the past.
By EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE, 5/22/16

That's my summer toy. Pic is from last year. It's not running right now. The area where I live has been very wet this year, and as a result of high water levels, they've got no wake zones posted all over the place. Might as well own a sailboat.

So I decided to pull it apart and do some repairs/maintenance on it.

That's a fine looking boat there, Captain.

About Obama's constant apologizing over America "this" or "that" -- yep. Almost everywhere he went and any speech he made, constantly apologizing.

Odd though, since the article doesn't specifiy a single apology. He didn't apologize to Vietnam nor to Japan. Although the latter didn't want one.

Anyhow, I know you're not a big fan of Politifact but I urge you nevertheless the read the article I'm about to link to. Mitt Romney wrote a book No Apology and the subject of the matter, Obama. So Politifact took all of Obama's speeches most relevant to the book's subject and send them off to a wide variety of people all over the political spectrum, from far right to far left, and asked them to read and comment. And they did: Obama's remarks never a true 'apology'

...even if you personally have a continuous habit of insulting anything coming out of the USA that goes against the socialist / liberal POV.

I tend to inform myself of the situation before I get to insulting.
Though, you'll have to point the insults out to me cause while I'm very opinionated (just ask Tood) I have yet to truly insult the USA.

Politics, economy, sociology, ... that's open season.

BTW, Most of us (USA folks) know Belgium is problematic with refugees, too.. that is where the Paris, France ("radical Muslims") murderers were hanging out. Belgium is a hopping stop over to other countries for the incognito traveling I.S. supporters.

Now who's insulting who?

If you must know, none of the attackers were refugees. Thought you may want to set your records straight.

I'm so amused right now.

Yes, resettling the refugees has been a problem, and getting them all the help they need right now. Help them get settled, get their papers in order and make sure they adjust to the country, learn the language, get a job -- it's still an ongoing struggle. But we're dealing with it.

For example, look at September 11, 2001--19 hijackers reshaped the USA probably for the rest of eternity in both physical and emotional aspects by destroying a few buildings and killing a bunch of formerly naive folks on airline flights to their daily destination grinds.

Yup, it most certainly did. Got a firsthand witness report from an acquaintance who was in the towers right that very moment, and lost her brother and cousin.

But let's also remember that your new president just finished an armsdeal, which he was boasting about, with the same people who send out 11 of those 19 hijackers, aka Saudi Arabia (also not on the list of dangerous countries).

It also reshaped the middle-east, if you didn't already realize that. You could even say it lead straight to the birth of the Islamic State.

Disappointed over what?

That you do not seem to care much for the president's foot-in-mouth disease. At least, Annoyed's honest about it.

Trump verbally insulting other leaders, is just Trump's personality (i.e., being rude) and IMO, inexcusable. Not disagreeing there with some of the tweets, tho some of them are fairly spot on accurate about those personas opposing Trump..!

So, you aprrove of violence against journalists?
Oppression of opponents?
Threats against companies who do not do his bidding?

You don't mind that he's, quite literally, dragging the reputation of the United States down with him? Why trust a man who will change his mind the next day. Or a country that won't come true after making a promise or a deal

And for the record, you're not out of the Paris deal yet.

You anti-Trump policies folks are panicking over nothing -- making mountains out of mole hills.

Sadly, I wish that were true. If you would look past your right-wing news sources, you would know that your country (is) used to be a big player on the global field. Almost everything reverberates throughout the rest of the (free) world

Your president doesn't have the first clue about diplomacy, nor does your Sec of State. Every appointee so far confirmed, either actively worked against the agency they are now leading, or haven't the first clue about it. More than half of the positions have not been filled -- embassies across the world do not have an appointed diplomat.

He's made a fool of himself more times than any of us can count. The latest him walking past his car, which is right in front of the freakin' steps of the plane, and the Secret Service guys having to run after him and guide him back to the car. He's not all there.

Or Buzz Aldrin's face in that one videa.... LOL!!!
Or his fabulous line "We just got back from the Middle-East.", and the reaction of the Israeli diplomat attaché -- a literal face!palm. (note: he was in Israel, which is the Middle-East geographically speaking)
Oh, let's not forget his polite push-out-of-the-way of the leader of Montenegro (a country he probably can't point out on a map).

What *insulting* comments? Are you *that* blind that you see (words), but do NOT see (as Jesus would say)..? Jeeze, (while typing this up) even looking at the few comments posted above this posting are thick with the liberal/leftist teeth chomping bite-marks.

Still don't know which insults, or what insults you are talking about.

Are you talking about Soul?

Most of those seem to be coming from Fly...

In super-neon green, hard to miss.

if u haven't noticed I only write in bright red when addressing Flyat as he likes to write in flashy neon green (attention seeker aint he (or maybe he's a closet tree-hugger?))

A radioactive one perhaps...

ummm, No. I'm not sure what side Fly is on...

He's on the right side of the spectrum of politics -- how far to the right, I can't be sure of. You'll have to ask him.

...most claiming they live somewhere far, far away outside the USA...

Oh my goddess, you don't believe I live in Belgium (Flanders to be exact, Flemish-Brabant to be even more exact, a little to the ... err... east of Brussels, our capital)?

Mijn moedertaal is Nederlands, et je parle un petit peu de Français parce que la Belgique est un pays avec trois langues officiel, und ich spreche auch ein klein bischen Deutsch. And then of course English cause I'm Flemish and we're adaptable like that. *shrug*

Independence Day to some folks is very patriotic, and means freedom and liberty.

And it amuses me beyond everything that you celebrate with a composition composed by a Russian. I mean, 1812 by Tchaikovsky.

Our 4th of July is on the 21st of July, and next week on the 11th of July Flanders celebrates being Flanders, waving our Flemish Lion and singing our anthem (of which I only know two lines of the chorus -- then again, I only know the opening line of the Belgian anthem... ). Also, the 11th isn't a holiday for most of Flanders either.

Ooooo. If you're implying that they are either twins or the same entity persona, then Fly would be also be attracted to FH, and that might stir up an interesting hornet's nest for conversation..

Oh, you did not just go there.

[mad_gater]

So, Me.

I have no issue with roughly 270 million Americans, there are about 40 million I disagree with on a purely "way forward" basis, and about 25 million I would not trust to water the lawn. So, less than 10% of them I really have problems with. Unsurprisingly, there is about 10% of Australia's population I would not trust to water the lawn either.


Tood has not changed, he is centre right. If he has not changed, I wonder what has..............


PH, FH, GF.
Yeah, we can read behind the lines.



Too much of anything is bad.


Caring about veterans has nothing to do with it, it's just the usual flag wrapping the Republicans like doing. No party has a monopoly about caring about those who fought and/or died for them.

*looks at Aussie-land's vast expanses of desert land*.....with what water?

re: Trump - I agree that a businessman could be a good president since most businessmen are fairly adept at balancing the budgets they run their businesses on....however I'm also sympathetic to the misgivings inherent in having this businessman be the super-rich corporatist type

If I was to vote for a businessman to be president I'd rather it be the kind of businessman adept at running the kind of small businesses that once made this country an economic powerhouse and would also likely have his finger on the pulse of the average citizen's desires and needs and whatnot because of the small business owner's daily interactions with the average citizen customer base

[Gatefan1976]

*looks at Aussie-land's vast expanses of desert land*.....with what water?

Touche MG, Touche.

re: Trump - I agree that a businessman could be a good president since most businessmen are fairly adept at balancing the budgets they run their businesses on....however I'm also sympathetic to the misgivings inherent in having this businessman be the super-rich corporatist type

A businessman -could- be a fantastic leader, but people are not dollars. You get them to understand that, for sure they could be great.

If I was to vote for a businessman to be president I'd rather it be the kind of businessman adept at running the kind of small businesses that once made this country an economic powerhouse and would also likely have his finger on the pulse of the average citizen's desires and needs and whatnot because of the small business owner's daily interactions with the average citizen customer base

But this is not what trump is, in any way shape or form. How long do you think a ......person of his mentality would survive in small business, especially a business that requires direct customer contact? Even his big businesses have for the most part been abject failures. Trump excels in one field only, Branding. Problem is, Brand USA is going down the toilet besides Israel and Russia. Remember, trump has never been a small business owner, He never had the impetus to take the kind of risks or work the time and hours a small businessperson does. He has relied on inheritance, being bailed out by his dad, and legal seperation of himself and his venture when it fails. He's a cloth cut Mafia bully boy.

[mad_gater]

Touche MG, Touche.

A businessman -could- be a fantastic leader, but people are not dollars. You get them to understand that, for sure they could be great.

But this is not what trump is, in any way shape or form. How long do you think a ......person of his mentality would survive in small business, especially a business that requires direct customer contact? Even his big businesses have for the most part been abject failures. Trump excels in one field only, Branding. Problem is, Brand USA is going down the toilet besides Israel and Russia. Remember, trump has never been a small business owner, He never had the impetus to take the kind of risks or work the time and hours a small businessperson does. He has relied on inheritance, being bailed out by his dad, and legal seperation of himself and his venture when it fails. He's a cloth cut Mafia bully boy.

I know...again the sad choice between the 2 major parties' offerings was the reason I wrote in Cruz instead of voting for either one

I'm picturing making a customer service call and getting someone like Trump on the other end....or for that matter me being the rep and him being the customer

[The Flyattractor]

Touche MG, Touche.

A businessman -could- be a fantastic leader, but people are not dollars. You get them to understand that, for sure they could be great.

But this is not what trump is, in any way shape or form. How long do you think a ......person of his mentality would survive in small business, especially a business that requires direct customer contact? Even his big businesses have for the most part been abject failures. Trump excels in one field only, Branding. Problem is, Brand USA is going down the toilet besides Israel and Russia. Remember, trump has never been a small business owner, He never had the impetus to take the kind of risks or work the time and hours a small businessperson does. He has relied on inheritance, being bailed out by his dad, and legal seperation of himself and his venture when it fails. He's a cloth cut Mafia bully boy.

So You have meet Trump Personally? Or are you just reading from the Play List put out by his Political Enemies? Cause lets face the facts. Trump's "Political Enemies" are some pretty DEPLORABLE people.

[Falcon Horus]

re: Trump - I agree that a businessman could be a good president since most businessmen are fairly adept at balancing the budgets they run their businesses on....however I'm also sympathetic to the misgivings inherent in having this businessman be the super-rich corporatist type

But Trump isn't a good businessman either.

[Gatecat]

So, in this here GW topic alone, the nastier *insults* against the USA/Trump folks in general are
currently not coming from The Flyattractor, not mad_gater, not Annoyed, and not garhkal.
[...]
There's a few other folks on here -- most claiming they live somewhere far, far away outside the USA, and yet acting as if they live here, next door.. ..just saying.. UK regional zone, Europe, Australia.. just to name a few of the major league hitters.

So, Me.

[...]
PH, FH, GF.
Yeah, we can read behind the lines.

Probably me, too.

But hey, you're welcome to criticise Austrian politics, although I doubt you even know the name of our president without looking him up (hint: it's a new one ). And I assume, whatever happens in Austria has not much influence on world politcs. On the other hand, whatever your child-in-chief says and does has a major impact on the rest of the world. So forgive us that we have our own opinion on things even if we don't live in your country. You might not like other opinions besides your own, but there is still something called freedom of expression/speech, it's even in your constitution. And compared to the hate speeches tweets your president comes up with I think you can take a little bit of sarcasm.

[Falcon Horus]

But hey, you're welcome to criticise Austrian politics, although I doubt you even know the name of our president without looking him up (hint: it's a new one ).

I don't know but it's not the far-right one that won. I'm close, right?

[jelgate]

But Trump isn't a good businessman either.

I think that is why he said could. Given MG past posts, I don't know think he consider Trump a good businessman either. I seem to recall him saying choosing Trump or Clinton was like chosing a heart attack or cancer.