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Well, I lived in NC in one of those 'yellow' spots, and there was no problem with anyone getting alcohol there. So while there might be restrictions on certain hours to be able to purchase it (between 2 am - 7 am), outside of that, there is no problem. The tiny bit of red isn't really an obstacle either. They might have to travel a little further to get their alcohol, but they can still get it. People in N.C. travel to S.C. to get fireworks all the time, so it isn't an obstacle, just an inconvenience at most.The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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Originally posted by Wolf O'Donnell View Postnormally when something like this happens I think that is when we need to have the talk
kinda like what always tends to happen when legislating in the wake of some disaster
almost like a will to add to the toll. lol
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Originally posted by Wolf O'Donnell View PostIn this thread http://forum.gateworld.net/threads/8...1#post13609917 people are talking about not politicizing it. I am sort of divided on the issue, normally when something like this happens I think that is when we need to have the talk on tighter gun control laws before it happens again, but this one was just so horrible and I dont really know what to do.
For the record, I actually live in the same county as Newtown. I like about 44 min away. It is so strange to have something like this happen so close. It is unreal.The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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it's fascinating actually. almost 30 kids got offed, and the only talk right now is either about reinstating the death penalty (Connecticut is one of the few civilized states there in that it abolished it) or confiscating guns. americans of both camps seem to have this fascination with giving authorities more power over the People one way or another, whenever there's a chance
is there seriously no such thing as a true libertarian party in this country?
(Ron Paul might have qualified as a libertarian if not for his stance on women's rights)
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It's a sad <mod snip> state of affairs when gun violence has become so prevalent that people don't bat an eye at metal detectors or full-time police coverage at schools."A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life
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Originally posted by DigiFluid View Postmetal detectors
dunno how expensive these things are though, apparently saving money is more important than saving lives nowadays
Originally posted by Seastallion View PostI know that at my High School we had an armed Police officer that stayed at the school full time. He even had a daughter that went there.
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My brother is a Libertarian and according to him I sound more like a Libertarian than anything else. I certainly lean 'right' in the political spectrum but I'm relatively socially moderate. As an example, I don't have a problem with Homosexual Civil Unions. I could care less. If they want to bind their lives legally, I say let them go for it. Doesn't bother me. My main thing is that the country needs to adhere to its Constitutional principles, and fiscal responsibility. If by 'women's rights' your referring to Abortion, like I've said before, it should be safe, legal, and RARE. Part of having freedom is also having responsibility for ones actions.The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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Originally posted by DigiFluid View PostIt's a sad f-ing state of affairs when gun violence has become so prevalent that people don't bat an eye at metal detectors or full-time police coverage at schools.sigpic
The best written female character on trek ever.
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postpublic or private police?The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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Originally posted by Seastallion View PostMy brother is a Libertarian and according to him I sound more like a Libertarian than anything else. I certainly lean 'right' in the political spectrum but I'm relatively socially moderate. As an example, I don't have a problem with Homosexual Civil Unions. I could care less. If they want to bind their lives legally, I say let them go for it. Doesn't bother me. My main thing is that the country needs to adhere to its Constitutional principles, and fiscal responsibility.
If by 'women's rights' your referring to Abortion, like I've said before, it should be safe, legal, and RARE. Part of having freedom is also having responsibility for ones actions.
Ron Paul wants to leave the issue wholly to the States (that's what he claims - he flat out contradicts this at times). this wouldn't change much, either way the People lose whether it is to Federal or State authorities
'legal' is what the whole abortion debate is about since it involves legislating thereon
'safe' they should be, check out "back-alley abortions" - these are as unsafe as it gets yet quite common in those countries with more primitive laws such as Chile & El Salvador
Originally posted by Seastallion View PostI already answered this. He was a member of the town's police force, so obviously public.
I'd much rather it be a citizen ie. a private guard
(this is implemented is several schools in the US, iirc)Last edited by SoulReaver; 14 December 2012, 05:25 PM.
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Originally posted by chrono trigger View PostAgreed i think the much more obvious soloution is to make owning a gun in the usa much more difficult.
Gun Control.jpgThe success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postwhat about capital punishment?
there's a difference between being pro-choice & pro-abortion. only one of the two is rational, the other is what the Chinese opted for
Ron Paul wants to leave the issue wholly to the States - or that's what he claims (he flat out contradicts this at times). not that this would change much, either way the People lose, whether it's to Federal or State authorities
'legal' is what the whole abortion debate is about since it involves legislating thereon
'safe' they should be, check out "back-alley abortions" - these are as unsafe as they're quite common in those countries with more primitive laws such as Chile & El Salvador
I'd much rather it be a citizen ie. a private guard
(this is implemented is several schools in the US, iirc)The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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Originally posted by Seastallion View PostSo long as there has been a trial, and guilt is established without doubt (depending on the actual crime), then I don't have a problem with the death penalty. Quite frankly, there are a few people that are better off not being a burden on society, since their crimes are so heinous and their guilt far beyond doubt, and there chances of ever getting out of prison are ZERO. I don't think the death penalty should ever be taken lightly, but it is a valid punishment.
as a libertarian I'm opposed to it without exceptions (though in cases where guilt is established with 100% certainty (1 in a zillion?), and for particularly heinous crimes, I wouldn't go out of my way to save the killer's life)
but I also make dang sure that people understand it is a hateful option generally. It isn't something that people should act like is no big deal, because it is. It ends an innocent life. That distinction (between choice and pro-abortion) is also blurred when Choice people try to dehumanize the unborn
btw you catholic or protestant?
Well, the legality of abortion isn't going anywhere in the U.S. So it is a moot argument at this point. There is no danger of it suddenly becoming illegal again.
A private guard is fine. I don't think it matters so long as there is someone there to keep an eye out for the safety of the students and teachers. I can't complain about Officer Powell. He was a great guy, and I felt he did a great job being there for the students.
although I'll reiterate what Digi said about metal detectors, you know, prevention being better than cure etc.Last edited by SoulReaver; 14 December 2012, 06:12 PM.
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postk
as a libertarian I'm opposed to it without exceptions (though in cases where guilt is established with 100% certainty (1 in a zillion?), and for particularly heinous crimes, I wouldn't go out of my way to save the killer's life)
yeah well much as I differ this would lead to an entirely new topic (which belongs more to the religious thread btw). I just cited Ron Paul because he's the one perceived by his supporters as the most "libertarian" of the lot & I differ with that
btw you catholic or protestant?
http://academic.wsc.edu/mathsci/hammer_m/life.htm
1) Chemical Uniqueness. Fertilized eggs possess their own unique DNA
from conception.
2) Complexity and hierarchical organization. Hickman, Roberts, and
Larson (1997) explain that the most basic unit in the biological
hierarchy is the cell. The cell holds the properties of living organisms,
and cells can be manipulated in the laboratory and can be reproduced,
whereas nonliving elements cannot. Therefore, the fertilized egg would
meet this criteria, although it would be a more basic unit of the
biological hierarchy.
3) Reproduction. Francis Beckwith (1994) observes that the zygote
possesses two different methods of reproduction: cell reproduction and
twinning. According to Beckwith (1994), twinning is "a form of asexual
reproduction, which can occur after conception."
4) Possession of a genetic program. Francis Beckwith (1994) confirms
that from conception, the fertilized egg has "its own unique genetic
code." The 46 chromosomes present at conception provide all of the
genetic information that will ever be needed.
5) Metabolism. Francis Beckwith (1994) confirms that from conception,
the fertilized egg meets the requirement of metabolism.
6) Development. Hickman, Roberts, and Larson (1997) state,
"Development describes the characteristic changes that an organism
undergoes from its origin (usually the fertilization of the egg by sperm)
to its final adult form." Thus, although the fertilized egg will take on
different forms throughout its life cycle, the development of life begins
at conception.
7) Environmental interaction. The entity in the womb interacts with its
environment in many ways. Kicking and jumping are both examples.
In addition, research has shown that the fetus can be soothed by music
and can recognize the voice of its mother.
The fertilized egg, from the moment of conception, meets each of the properties that have been found to determine if an organism can be classified as living. Based on this definition, life begins at conception.if memory serves, not so long ago South Dakota planned to make it almost completely illegal (even health reasons & rape & what not) but an initiative/referendum thwarted this
I favour a private guard because it's a much more logical option tbh (the same reason I'd rather have the pilots armed - and trained - than a G-man on the plane)
although I'll reiterate what Digi said about metal detectors, you know, prevention being better than cure etc.The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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