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Originally posted by mad_gater View PostSpoiler:because for love to be true it cannot be forced.....if He forced us to follow Him He'd be no different from those who manipulate others for their own amusement....you know that whole "if you love someone let them go" thing? and how could we be following a path? it's plainly obvious people do their own thing almost every day...some of them aren't exactly legal either....so it's highly unlikely that anybody's path is pre-ordained
as for your second assertion.....how did organizations like Catholic Charities get to be as big as they are then? money don't grow on trees ya know....it had to have been given to them then...by people of good will....and I see plenty of examples of people helping others out of the goodness of their hearts in time of trouble
Originally posted by lordofseas View PostOmnipotence basically means all powerful. Not all knowing.
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Post'tis true 'fascist' tends to be used abusively as a blanket term, so I avoid it whenever possibleSpoiler:I use 'nazi' instead
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With healtcare I think as a human being good health (or as good as is possible) is a right so if people are forced to give a small part of their income away then so be it.
Using your logic if I were a communist and anti-war campaginer why should I be forced to pay for facilitating commerce and starting wars?sigpic
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Originally posted by Ben 'Teal'c would WIN!!' Noble View PostWith healtcare I think as a human being good health (or as good as is possible) is a right so if people are forced to give a small part of their income away then so be it.
Using your logic if I were a communist and anti-war campaginer why should I be forced to pay for facilitating commerce and starting wars?
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Originally posted by jmoz View PostWas talking from the god complex perspective, not man's. Could also ask how did rich warlords/dictators/governments get as big as they are? Giving one selective instance of people giving charity does not diminish the majority who would chose not to do so.
Omniscience is a subset of omnipotence.
it is up to We the People to decide how to help each other in times of trouble...not have government dictate the terms of such help
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Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View Postand you too would be inaccurate, given the POLITICAL (you know, in this political thread) differences between Mussolini's Fascism and Hitler's National Socialism.Last edited by SoulReaver; 25 March 2011, 11:29 AM.
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Originally posted by mad_gater View Postmove to a communist country then.....I'm sure they'd love to have you and don't let the door hit your backside on the way out
being against state funded healthcare, doesn't that basically mean you want poor people to die, or at best be pushed into ridiculous debt because they got cancer or something, that doesn't sound very christian to me
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Originally posted by mad_gater View Postmove to a communist country then.....I'm sure they'd love to have you and don't let the door hit your backside on the way outsigpic
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Originally posted by Ukko View PostHe lives in a democracy, he doesnt have to "get out" if he doesnt like the way things are done. Its an odd thing to tell someone to do when you claim to be about "we the people" and "freedom of this and that." He has as much a rite to stay exactly where he is and enact his democratic right vote for what he believes, and question those he dissagrees with as you do, not get out if he doesnt like what you believe.
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Originally posted by dosed150 View Postyou've seriously gone for the, if you don't like it get out mentality, well done you, seems you don't know what communist means either
being against state funded healthcare, doesn't that basically mean you want poor people to die, or at best be pushed into ridiculous debt because they got cancer or something, that doesn't sound very christian to me
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Originally posted by dosed150 View Postyou've seriously gone for the, if you don't like it get out mentality, well done you, seems you don't know what communist means either
being against state funded healthcare, doesn't that basically mean you want poor people to die, or at best be pushed into ridiculous debt because they got cancer or something, that doesn't sound very christian to me
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Originally posted by mad_gater View Postyou forget that communism and democracy are 2 completely different forms of government...one is for freedom the other is for 100% total domination of the people by government
Believe what i believe or get out isnt very democratic and doesnt seem like the words of someone who claims to like freedom and liberty.sigpic
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