The Political Discussion Thread

[Falcon Horus]

I understand the knee-jerk reaction, but not everything is Trump's fault.

I did not expect so many stars.

the post was related to trumps tweet; i was making the argument that it was not racist as he was referring to their nationality. "go back to the countries they came from...and fix them"

Which is ironic since they are all from the USA so I guess he made an point -- his own country's broken and needs to be fixed.

What is there to say?
Mueller stated in the report, and now in congress that trump would have been indicted if he were not the POTUS, and (if) he leaves before croaking, he still can be.
Made no difference when the report came out, makes no difference now.

Probably the only thing I thought was interesting...

I didn't follow word for word.

non americans want to complain about american politics

Who's complaining?

like how the President is not a de facto anything, the 3 branches of government create a failsafe from any one person or group of persons from having absolute control

Except, of course, when he controls all 3 branches but those are details, I guess.

Let's talk Belgian politics... on that notion... do we even have a government yet? *ponders*
I think the Germans have one, so do the French and did Flanders have one yet... no idea... Federal, most certainly not... yet.

[Gatefan1976]

Of course I am. I'm right. Why should I back down?

Spoken like a true autocrat.

[Gatefan1976]

All of my crackpot ideas have merit. They just seem crackpot to you because you don't see things unless a talking head tells you what to see and what to think about what you see.

NONE of your crackpot idea's hold ANY merit, or more specifically, your so called solutions.
You face problems, that is true, but HOW you want to deal with them is stupid.
Build a wall?
Under or over the illegals come.
Deny voter registration, lets see how it plays with white people in America.

Going back to paper has merit, putting in checks has merit, but the WAY you want to do it is wrong.
It's not the idea, it's the execution.

[Annoyed]

hehehe

This does not bode well for the Democrats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.46b3b5107e6c

These guys are going to eat themselves alive. If anyone is worried that Trump might not play fair in 2020, relax. He's not gonna have to cheat. The Democrats are gonna hand him the keys to the white house for 4 more years all by themselves.

[SoulReaver]

https://www.snp.org/boris-johnson-cabinet-horror-show/

V for Vendetta anyone?

[Chaka-Z0]

hehehe

This does not bode well for the Democrats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.46b3b5107e6c

These guys are going to eat themselves alive. If anyone is worried that Trump might not play fair in 2020, relax. He's not gonna have to cheat. The Democrats are gonna hand him the keys to the white house for 4 more years all by themselves.

I disagree. As a matter of fact most of the youngest candidates will be tossed aside and Bernie and Warren came out in a much stronger position. A possible scenario would be Biden crumbling down under his debatable past, and Bernie snatching the Throne for the 2020's.

Funny how all of you dismissed Bernie a while ago saying he had 0 chances yet his support grows every day. Biden isn't a real progressive, he's a half-assed establishments middle man in consort with the Snake Clinton that doesn't want to hurt anybody's feelings bc he's whoring for votes.

[Chaka-Z0]

https://www.snp.org/boris-johnson-cabinet-horror-show/

V for Vendetta anyone?

Seems like he's got his A-team in theater.

But really what can he do until he gets re-elected? I think the answer is not much. It's a PR stunt for the upcoming election to galvanize his radical base if you ask me.

[SoulReaver]

But really what can he do until he gets re-elected? I think the answer is not much.

tbh I dunno why would he have less power now than after general elections?
in fact why did they even have those special elections? why didn't Theresa May's resignation trigger a real election?

[SoulReaver]

Funny how all of you dismissed Bernie a while ago saying he had 0 chances yet his support grows every day. Biden isn't a real progressive, he's a half-assed establishments middle man in consort with the Snake Clinton that doesn't want to hurt anybody's feelings bc he's whoring for votes.

problem is Bernie's intent to suddenly abolish private insurance could be suicidal in this country to basically take away people's choice isn't exactly american
that's also why Trump's hardline Prolife(tm) stance could also undermine his own chances

there are countries with universal healthcare where the public & private system still work side by side

PS. I liked Tulsi's intervention against Kamala (Joe must've appreciated her taking some of the heat away from him lol) what goes round comes round
of course she wouldn't stand much of a chance against the Don either

[Chaka-Z0]

tbh I dunno why would he have less power now than after general elections?
in fact why did they even have those special elections? why didn't Theresa May's resignation trigger a real election?

I am by no means a political expert but in short, parliamentary system is a mess. The latest GE of UK was in 2017, so technically the next one is in 2022. (it's 5 years in the UK, 4 in Canada, no clue what it is in Australia). In a Parliamentary system, the death or resignation of the PM does not automatically triggers an election, the replacement is picked from within the party that holds power. That's how he was elected PM.

That being said, Boris right now has vowed to fulfill the TORY agenda by BREXITing and won't call another election (a snap election) before the end of October. Simply put, he needs to ensure that the British are supporting him and consolidate his power to prove he has legitimacy to pursue his agenda. The Brexit doesn't count because that was the mandate May was elected for.

Prime Ministers have much more powers than Presidents for the simple fact that they are elected by legislature, not some bullsh!t college that picks the winner.

[SoulReaver]

In a Parliamentary system, the death or resignation of the PM does not automatically triggers an election, the replacement is picked from within the party that holds power. That's how he was elected PM.

so who got to vote then - every UK citizen? or just a portion of the electorate? (ie. registered conservatives only etc.)

[Annoyed]

I disagree. As a matter of fact most of the youngest candidates will be tossed aside and Bernie and Warren came out in a much stronger position. A possible scenario would be Biden crumbling down under his debatable past, and Bernie snatching the Throne for the 2020's.

Funny how all of you dismissed Bernie a while ago saying he had 0 chances yet his support grows every day. Biden isn't a real progressive, he's a half-assed establishments middle man in consort with the Snake Clinton that doesn't want to hurt anybody's feelings bc he's whoring for votes.

No one wearing the socialist label is gonna win the general election. We aren't a socialist country. Bernie had a chance in 2016, largely due to a lack of widespread understanding of just what socialism entails. He won't have that advantage this time around.

[Chaka-Z0]

so who got to vote then - every UK citizen? or just a portion of the electorate? (ie. registered conservatives only etc.)

UK voted Tory = May
May lost credibility, she resigns
Boris is voted as successor from within his wing, the people didn't choose him
He needs to launch elections relatively soon to confirm the people want him as PM, so everyone will eventually vote for him

The only reason he was chosen is because Boris is deemed to be the most charismatic of his wing, and you know, whatever it takes to keep power.

[SoulReaver]

No one wearing the socialist label is gonna win the general election. We aren't a socialist country. Bernie had a chance in 2016, largely due to a lack of widespread understanding of just what socialism entails. He won't have that advantage this time around.

actually it's the other way around "socialist" had an evil connotation back in 2016 (associated with commies & Stalin & what not) but now that the commonfolk know they've a lot to gain from it especially after the tycoon let them down Bernie's chances have improved

[Chaka-Z0]

No one wearing the socialist label is gonna win the general election. We aren't a socialist country.

Stop speaking for all Americans when you are actually the minority, remember the last polls? Yea. Say I, not we. You do not represent the majority by a long shot.

Bernie had a chance in 2016, largely due to a lack of widespread understanding of just what socialism entails. He won't have that advantage this time around.

You mean demonization, we all know how US politics works Annoyed.