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Originally posted by Major Clanger View PostIraq is a different case - I can't find a reason to defend the invasion, on the other hand I'm not about to criticise military people there (except for the idiots)
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Originally posted by LiliJ View Post*gasp* Ok, I didn't know that. Sigh. But I assume by "us" you mean the United States? It's a very complicated situation between Israel and Palestine - is it true that Israel is bombing Gaza in retaliation to the rocket attacks from Palestinians? I try to keep up with the story, but I have a lot going on at the moment...
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Originally posted by ~Dave View PostYou say that like you know for sure, and it's a fact. Seems like many others did find a reason for the invasion. And since we weren't part of the "loop", we can't really know for sure. But maybe I just have too much faith in my government. I should be more careful about that.
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EDIT: Ah, I see. Sigh. I hope the peace talks in Egypt go well, but I doubt they'll lead to a cease-fire.
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I used to be a member of Military Intelligence. I can well imagine the scenario - I was still serving at the time Iraq invaded Kuwait - but the less said about that the better.
As for Israel/Gaza.
Israel as a state was created suddenly and without the right planning. The Palestinians have a grievance that has never been properly addressed, but we can't now cancel Israel.
It's a very sticky wicket as in some circles to criticise Israel is to be seen as anti-semitic behaviour which it isn't necessarily. On the other hand if Hamas will keep sending their rockets from areas inhabited by civilians, that tells us a lot about what they think of their own people.
I lost patience with it all a long time ago - as far as I'm concerned I am desperately sad for everyone who is involved against their will. They are both supposed to be grown-up states with elected governments. It is their task to reach a settlement that they can all live with. To keep on provoking each other is like 1st grade behaviour on a grander scale.
Having said all that... it's off topic for this thread so I'll mod myself.In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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Originally posted by LiliJ View PostBeing English I have NO faith in my government and highly mistrust any politicians! It's kind of a running joke here...
I don't know if they had WMD or not. But they did have "yellowcake" uranium which has been quietly removed to Canada. Suffice it to say, there's more to Iraq, and the invasion than most people know about.
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Oh dear, I like off topic stuff! It's kind of silly, I mean conversations evolve and OT stuff does leak in... But before you delete your post, Major Clanger, I think it's sad as well - I cried this morning reading the paper. They were describing the scene in the morgue, and it was just heart-wrenching
EDIT: Oops, too late!
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Originally posted by Major Clanger View PostI used to be a member of Military Intelligence. I can well imagine the scenario - I was still serving at the time Iraq invaded Kuwait - but the less said about that the better.
As for Israel/Gaza.
Israel as a state was created suddenly and without the right planning. The Palestinians have a grievance that has never been properly addressed, but we can't now cancel Israel.
It's a very sticky wicket as in some circles to criticise Israel is to be seen as anti-semitic behaviour which it isn't necessarily. On the other hand if Hamas will keep sending their rockets from areas inhabited by civilians, that tells us a lot about what they think of their own people.
I lost patience with it all a long time ago - as far as I'm concerned I am desperately sad for everyone who is involved against their will. They are both supposed to be grown-up states with elected governments. It is their task to reach a settlement that they can all live with. To keep on provoking each other is like 1st grade behaviour on a grander scale.
Having said all that... it's off topic for this thread so I'll mod myself.
*edit* As for modding yourself for being off topic, I guess you're not a fan of evolution. Because discussions do evolve.
~Dave
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Dave - I'm not going to discuss it any further. I've given you a hint now it's time to stop.
You have no idea what I may or may know, as I have little evidence of your knowledge.
However, you can stop just telling me I'm wrong - it's not in the spirit of the VS and it is, frankly, irritating the pants off me.
Now - the subject of the thread is if the Military Rankings we are using to indicate postcout are offensive.
Any offers?In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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Originally posted by ~Dave View PostThat's the key word. Your imagination may have nothing to do with reality. Hardly something to base conclusion on.
~Dave
EDIT: Oops, sorry Major Clanger, I didn't mean to carry it on. My conclusion with the rankings is: now it has been discussed from nearly every angle (!) it can't really be seen as offensive, and we should all try to accept it in the fun way it was meant. How's that?!
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Originally posted by LiliJ View PostHmmm, true, but imagination and empathy are powerful tools, and they should always be used to see other people's point of veiw. Unfortunately, in my case my imagination feeds my empathy and I end up sobbing over my newspaper! That's why I'm not really au-fait with current events!
EDIT: Oops, sorry Major Clanger, I didn't mean to carry it on. My conclusion with the rankings is: now it has been discussed from nearly every angle (!) it can't really be seen as offensive, and we should all try to accept it in the fun way it was meant. How's that?!
~Dave
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Originally posted by LiliJ View PostMy conclusion with the rankings is: now it has been discussed from nearly every angle (!) it can't really be seen as offensive, and we should all try to accept it in the fun way it was meant. How's that?!In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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