God would be the creator, not an alien, to be exact. An alien would be a being that originated from a celestial body other than Earth. God didn't originate, he has always existed.
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Ah the self inflicting wound of religion, god can exist without a creator yet we cannot? Erm if god is has a neccisary existance, and we have a contingent one, at which point will illogic be reversed and come up saying in the minds of all, "well hang on, if god can exist without a creator then why the hell cant we."
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Originally posted by SaberBlade View PostI do consider that the higher powers could easily be aliens
alien => living being => mortal & flawed => can be killedLast edited by SoulReaver; 30 October 2007, 04:42 PM.
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alien => living being => flawed & mortal => can be killed
God => Fictional => Requires belief/delusion to exist => Can be deleted from existence by denialsigpic
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Originally posted by immhotep View PostAh the self inflicting wound of religion, god can exist without a creator yet we cannot?
Erm if god is has a neccisary existance, and we have a contingent one, at which point will illogic be reversed and come up saying in the minds of all, "well hang on, if god can exist without a creator then why the hell cant we."
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Who cares?! I don't.
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Originally posted by immhotepAh the self inflicting wound of religion, god can exist without a creator yet we cannot? Erm if god is has a neccisary existance, and we have a contingent one, at which point will illogic be reversed and come up saying in the minds of all, "well hang on, if god can exist without a creator then why the hell cant we."
Then you have a miricle.
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Originally posted by immhotep View PostErm.. You do care!
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We dont know that A single colony of ants has the same amount of nuerons as a human brain. its entirely possible that us pouring boiling water down thier nests could seen by them as a flood, sent by a high being to kill them all. As many as possible cling to leavy debree collected in the nest, forming an arc that saves only those who are strong enough to survive the flood. Sound familier...sigpic
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Nope.
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Originally posted by immhotepWe dont know that A single colony of ants has the same amount of nuerons as a human brain. its entirely possible that us pouring boiling water down thier nests could seen by them as a flood, sent by a high being to kill them all. As many as possible cling to leavy debree collected in the nest, forming an arc that saves only those who are strong enough to survive the flood. Sound familier...
btw ants don't have a collective consciousness, so no matter how many individuals (thus neurons) there are, each ant will still be, well, as dumb as an ant
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Originally posted by immhotep View PostWe dont know that
A single colony of ants has the same amount of nuerons as a human brain.
its entirely possible that us pouring boiling water down thier nests could seen by them as a flood, sent by a high being to kill them all.
As many as possible cling to leavy debree collected in the nest, forming an arc that saves only those who are strong enough to survive the flood. Sound familier...
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Since you're in the mood to argue, let me make this crystal clear. I believe that God is the alpha, the omega, the almighty, the creator, that which brought the galaxy into existance. Without God, there is nothing. I also believe that God is not linear like we are. He has no beginning, no end, he simply is.
God has no creator. God created us. I'm fine with this. You want to argue why we have a creator and God does not. That was the part I don't care about. It's like arguing over why we have two arms instead of three. We've always had two, we'll never have three, so why discuss the issue? Now, if you're faith or religion says that God was created and that something greater exists beyond God, then you'd have room for an intelligent conversation. Otherwise, you're just looking to pick a fight.
Also we have two arms because evolutionary natural selection has favoured primate development, there is an advantage in having two arms instead of 3, 2 eyes instead of 7, 1 brain instead of 3, everything in the world, everything that you see has an explaination and to simplify it to the work of humanity's inbuilt delusions of a higher being is an insult to the natural world in every way a a degrating trait of the human centric view of our universe. Why are we so obsessed with US that we can look at the world and think, damn, im so lucky to live here, to have such a rich complex world with billions of infinate combinations of elements and reactions and organisms at our fingertips. Why do we think, damn, some higher being must have done this otherwise the world couldnt be this perfect and wonderful. Earth is a special planet, but that doesnt mean its so special it was created for us, its a random jackpot on universal probabilities that were living here instead of the infinate number of things which oculd have evolved here instead. The complexity of the world is so vast that to reduce it to the world of one thing is revolting.
If I said to you, i am responsible for the creation of the universe, i dont exist but am typing this message through a medium of sorts in an effort to convince you that i am indeed the creator of all things and can prove this by saying in this message, a tangable manivestation of my godly power that i indeed did create this world so that you could live here and one day you could understand this message of love from me.
If i said that you would laugh, and ignore me. But what ive just said is EXACTLY what the bible is. The only place that it says god exists is in the bible, which 1600 years ago was written up in the equivalent of the forum just like this in Rome. The bible is essentially one giant forum post from 1600 years ago that everyone has decided to accept and have faith in its reliability instead of reject. The bible had a 50/50 chance of being rejected. Your either going to believe that im the creator of all things and i created a manivestation of myself to walkamoung you and record my teaching which 400 years after i die for you ungrateful sods will be combined to provide many millions with a guidence for life itself, life which i created by the way. Or your not going to believe I am who i claim i am and therefore dont worry about it.
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