Joseph Mallozzi's Blog! (SPOILERS For All SG Shows and Dark Matter)

[PG15]

For serious, Darren?

Holy bleep!

[MediaSavant]

Brad and Rob went to pitch SGU to SCI FI on Friday. Fingers crossed ... we hope to have something big to share next week!

Good scoop.

[morjana]

If they do, I certainly hope they find themselves a whole new team of writers just for SGU and leave our normal writers working on SGA only. Nothing against the current writers, but nobody should be subjected to those 40-episode/year stuff again. Everything/one suffers because of it.

Perhaps the Writer's Strike will help the SciFi Channel in making a decision to a firm committment to pick up the NEW series.



Morjana

[Mister Oragahn]

Let's just hope that they're fully aware of SGA's failures and will know how to avoid them.

I actually hope they have a rather solid main arc that should cover at least three seasons.

Otherwise... it's going to be sloppy '80 writing. You know, like Knight Rider, with a vague idea, it's a hero and a car and... huh... well... what can we tell now?...

Look at BSG. Four seasons, well packed, end of discussion. They tried to stretch it a bit for season 3 and everybody did notice the fall of tension and the decrease of plots forwarding.

I they go to the network HQ and tell them, ok guys, we've got this story, and we plan a couple of seasons, three or five, no more, and it will be well packed, no milking, no fillers, no absurd stretching.

Then ok.

But I think I'm dreaming. It's the same people who were much too in love with their own show, too blind to see that they were hurting it more than anything else.

[Alipeeps]

But Stargate has never been about huge multi-season arcs and foreshadowing etc like BSG. It's not Babylon 5 - it is not and never has been that kind of show. And, tbh, those kinds of show are the exception, rather than the rule.

I guess I just find it hard to understand why you are judging a show against a criteria that it has never purported to offer.

[Redhooks]

But Stargate has never been about huge multi-season arcs and foreshadowing etc like BSG. It's not Babylon 5 - it is not and never has been that kind of show. And, tbh, those kinds of show are the exception, rather than the rule.

You can say that again about B5 although I never got into the new version of BSG. Just look at the way Joe Mallozzi described the writing process and then look at B5 where one person (JMS) wrote at least 75% of the scripts. I think the lack of multi-year story arcs has been more of a detriment to SGA than it was to SG-1 due to nature of the villians in each show. I really never watched SG-1 that much but started watching the first season of SGA due to it looking like a much better show that unfortunately lost its appeal to me in season 2. I'll keep watching this season just to see if the hinted at major-arcs come to fruition in a well thoughtout way and if not, I'll at least watch the episodes in season 5 that have Jill Wagner in them. I sure hope that rumored new Sci-Fi show from JMS becomes a reality because good Sci-Fi shows are very scarce right now.

[smurf]

Brad and Rob went to pitch SGU to SCI FI on Friday. Fingers crossed ... we hope to have something big to share next week!

Thanks for that Darren. Good to hear it's not my second option.

If they do, I certainly hope they find themselves a whole new team of writers just for SGU and leave our normal writers working on SGA only. Nothing against the current writers, but nobody should be subjected to those 40-episode/year stuff again. Everything/one suffers because of it.

That would be nice, but I think they'll go back to the SG-1/SGA way of doing it to save money. Hopefully it won't feel like S8/S1 again where much of SG-1 felt like a (cheap) afterthought while all the effort was to get SGA going.

But Stargate has never been about huge multi-season arcs and foreshadowing etc like BSG. It's not Babylon 5 - it is not and never has been that kind of show. And, tbh, those kinds of show are the exception, rather than the rule.

I guess I just find it hard to understand why you are judging a show against a criteria that it has never purported to offer.

Stargate has drifted towards the multi-season arcs in the last couple of years - in particular on SG-1. Much to its detriment, IMO, because these things need careful planning, and a single focused showrunner.

[Alan]

Brad and Rob went to pitch SGU to SCI FI on Friday. Fingers crossed ... we hope to have something big to share next week!

Fantastic! *crosses fingers*

[Pegasus_SGA]

But Stargate has never been about huge multi-season arcs and foreshadowing etc like BSG. It's not Babylon 5 - it is not and never has been that kind of show. And, tbh, those kinds of show are the exception, rather than the rule.

I guess I just find it hard to understand why you are judging a show against a criteria that it has never purported to offer.

From my perspective it's very hard to 'jump in' when there's a very strong overall arc. I am actually put off by that. I don't mind mini arcs, but full blown arcs aren't really up my street. You miss a few eps and you're screwed. I wouldn't want SGA to be like that. Sure SG1 had it's mini arcs, but not to the extent of the likes of B5, BSG or X-Files SO for me i'm quite content as is.

[Alipeeps]

From my perspective it's very hard to 'jump in' when there's a very strong overall arc. I am actually put off by that. I don't mind mini arcs, but full blown arcs aren't really up my street. You miss a few eps and you're screwed. I wouldn't want SGA to be like that. Sure SG1 had it's mini arcs, but not to the extent of the likes of B5, BSG or X-Files SO for me i'm quite content as is.

Yeah and in fact Stargate is deliberately made that way because it's made with a view to syndication - and shows with long multi-episode arcs where you need to see every episode don't work great in syndication. It's like... I missed the last 3-4 episodes of Season 1 of Heroes because I missed one episode... and didn't want to watch the following ones without having seen the one I missed... so I'm having to wait for the terrestrial airing schedule to catch up to where I left off on the cable schedule and catch the eps I missed that way.

[LostCityGuardian]

Hey guys! First post for me. I was initially going to do it on one of the anti-season 5 threads and get everyone angry, but best not to be controversial initially, at least. So I thought where better to do it than where I have already been quoted by others in the questions that I have asked on Joe Mallozzi's blog. Starting here will give me a chance to comment on the answers to my own comments (on the blog). Which is only slightly confusing.

I actually found it quite weird to find this thread as a lurker and see my own questions (and their answers) being reproduced in a thread that I didn't even know existed. Strange indeed.

Good to see that progress is being made on SGU, by the way.

[morjana]

Brad and Rob went to pitch SGU to SCI FI on Friday. Fingers crossed ... we hope to have something big to share next week!

Woo-hoo! Good news, Darren, thanks for sharing!

Fingers are crossed.



Morjana

[Darren]

I didn't mean to imply that we're expecting news about the network picking up the new show -- sorry! Who knows how long SCI FI will take on that front.

We hope to have some scoop from the producers as to what SGU is about. Here's hoping it all works out!

[LostCityGuardian]

I didn't mean to imply that we're expecting news about the network picking up the new show -- sorry! Who knows how long SCI FI will take on that front.

We hope to have some scoop from the producers as to what SGU is about. Here's hoping it all works out!

That would be good enough though. It would stop the endless speculation around alternative universes, time travel etc.

[wurlitzer153]

New post: http://josephmallozzi.blogspot.com/2...er-6-2007.html

Pics: Joe's interview for Ivon's deleted scenes special feature and food

This day was also marked by my interview for Ivon Bartok’s deleted footage special feature for the upcoming season four box-set. Unlike last season, he asked me to preface each deleted scene with a commentary. “But I already covered everything in my blog,”I protested. To which Marty G. rather cold-heartedly replied: “Not everyone reads your blog.” While I find that very hard to believe, I did nevertheless repeat my clever insights for the official record. At the end of the day though, it’s really neither here nor there as most fans will be fast-forwarding past that particular section to get to the bloopers. Yep, you heard right. For the very first time in Stargate history, we’ll be offering up the number one most fan-requested extra. Exactly what ends up as part of the special feature will depend on the actors, but there are plenty of fun clips to choose from.

Today’s mailbag:

OctoberMoon writes: “So, since I would live to change careers, what exactly does a producer do?”

Answer: Blogs, discusses the weekend sports highlights with his fellow producers, and generally tries to avoid ordering lunch from Swiss Chalet.

Philly writes: “How do you feel about dance offs?”

Answer: I’m all for them so long as they involve members of our production. Last season, we had a huge dance-off that came down to Carl Binder vs. my sometimes driver Larry for all the marbles. Carl got served!

PG15 writes: “I read on Alex Levine's SciFi blog that you guys were going to dress up as the peptobismol commercial guys for Halloween; whatever happened to that?”

Answer: Alas, Chris was in New Zealand so there was Halloween Party. But that didn’t stop me from dressing up as Heartburn and wandering the neighborhood until some concerned parents called the police and I was escorted back home.

Girl Curl 3 writes: “Laura Cadman has always been a favorite - any chance we could see her in the future?”

Answer: Chances of seeing Laura Cadman in season five = approximately 0%.

Anonymous #1 writes: “You need someone in the writing room with you guys who actually understands the science of how things really work and can tell you when the psuedo-science bullcrap you guys think up is bullcrap.”

Answer: I hate to be the one to break it to you, but pseudo-science is, by its very nature, bullcrap.

AMZ writes: “I noticed when you talk about he writing process you said it was a team effort for Stargate...do you think that's the case for other tv shows?”

Answer: For most other t.v. shows, yes.

Mandy writes: “Did Joe Flanigan do all the stunts in Doppelganger?”

Answer: All? No. Some? Yes.

Anonymous #2 writes: “Any chance the Shankster will be reprising his role as DJ in S5?”

Answer: It’s possible.