Asgard Hyperdrive v.s. Ancient Hyperdrive..

[Ltcolshepjumper]

Woolsey said it would shave "two weeks off our [Weir and his] travel time [to Atlantis]," implying that it would take 14 days off the trip, which normally takes 18.

Using the math someone else here did for me, as I was retarded at the time:

18 - 14 = 4

So it would take an Asgard ship 4 days to go from Earth to Atlantis.

Oh. thanks for the correction. Well, I'll say this. If a regular 304's hyperdrive is enhanced that much by 1 ZPM, imagine the speed of Atlantis with 3.

[Supreme Commander]

Given that there are now TWO! threads that have been hijacked about this..
Lets gather it into just ONE! thread..

My case...
Asgard Hyperdrive has proven to be able to go from The Milkyway to Pegasus in 4 days (304 With ZPM and O'Neill-Class, Pre-"Unending") While we have NEVER seen or heard anything about the speed of a "Ancient Galactic-Hyperdrive", but we do know that the Aurora Class ships where only fitted with Hyperdrives that could not travel the void ("Aurora")

We know that the O'neill is able to travel from the asgard galaxy to the Milky way in seven minutes, and one hour with the Prometheus in tow.
They are extremely efficient.

[Supreme Commander]

Oh. thanks for the correction. Well, I'll say this. If a regular 304's hyperdrive is enhanced that much by 1 ZPM, imagine the speed of Atlantis with 3.

Asgard power generation systems are extremely efficient. Col. Carter states
"we know the asgard hyperdrives are capable of traversing galaxies in minutes" they could get from earth to pegasus in minutes. probably due to their neutrino ion generators.

[Guest750]

'Traversing galaxies' not 'traversing between galaxies'!

[NoobTau'ri]

I think that the events in "Unending", as well as the Asgard's plasma beam weaponry ripping through those replicator Auroras like nothing, have established in the minds of many fans that the Asgard have supassed the Ancients and are now the most uber race ever, and there is no turning back. This is unfortunate, because it means that the writers have shot themselves in the proverbial foot and destroyed their own official canon, which states the Ancients were the most advanced race ever. It's funny because Thor himself said that the Asgard couldn't hold the jock straps of the Ancients, and yet the writers have been promoting Asgard tech lately to a godly status that before was reservd only for Alteran tech. As the best example, it seems like in this season of SGA the Wraith will be wiped out by an Asgard device of doom, and we all know that devices of doom capable of wiping out an entire race of enemies at once used to be exclusive of the Ancients.

[Supreme Commander]

'Traversing galaxies' not 'traversing between galaxies'!

It takes an o'neill on hour to get to the asgard galaxy with the prometheus in tow from the milky way.asgard ships are so quick, the asgard choose to travel in them rather than through the stargate. and travel between Milky way and asgard galaxy is minutes with without a ship in tow. Asgard hyperdrives are very quick.

[Ltcolshepjumper]

It takes an o'neill on hour to get to the asgard galaxy with the prometheus in tow from the milky way.asgard ships are so quick, the asgard choose to travel in them rather than through the stargate. and travel between Milky way and asgard galaxy is minutes with without a ship in tow. Asgard hyperdrives are very quick.

Well then, Ida must be pretty close to the Milky Way since it takes days to get to Atlantis.

[EternalAlteran]

the Asgard have NEVER gone between Galaxies in seconds..

I said minutes and in Revelations, the Goa'uld are at a protected planet and search for Heimdall. The Asgard Thor is send with the only ship available from their home galaxy. And even before the search starts he arrives.

Also in Prometheus, the Prometheus leaves Earth and the Asgard detect the ship entering hyperspace, once it exits hyperspace the Asgard detect it and a few minutes go by and there Thor is.

[Mister Oragahn]

For the record, a topic went off topic about Asgard hyperdrive speeds here:

Click.

[NoobTau'ri]

It is amazing to me the number of people who assume that, because Asgard hyperdrives are faster, that the Asgard are more advanced than the Ancients. This is like saying that Italians are more advanced than Americans because they have the fastest car in the World(Ferrari). You can't measure a civilization's level of technological development by how well they can make their low complexity technologies, but the degree of complexity of their technology. Italians are able to make a simpler technology(car) that is faster and most powerful than any car Americans have, but they cannot put a rocket in space or create antimatter like the U.S. Likewise, the Asgard can make a simpler technology(hyperdrive) that is better and faster than the Ancients', but they could not make technology as complex as the Ancients', like the Dakara Device or Project Arcturus.

[Kebab Gud]

Between Ida and The Milky way they might take Minutes yes.. but lets not forget that "Pegasus Dwarf Irregular" (Where Stargate Atlantis is set) is not exactly the closest Galaxy to the Milky way..

So I kinda suspect that Ida is in fact one of the Leo galaxies.. (a series of Dwarf Satellite Galaxies around the Milky Way)
In fact it might be "Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy" the closest Galaxy to us.. in fact Earth is about half way between the Center of Out Galaxy and the outer ring of "Canis Major"

As you can see here.. Pegasus (a satellite of Andromeda) is ALOT! further away

[s09119]

Between Ida and The Milky way they might take Minutes yes.. but lets not forget that "Pegasus Dwarf Irregular" (Where Stargate Atlantis is set) is not exactly the closest Galaxy to the Milky way..

So I kinda suspect that Ida is in fact one of the Leo galaxies.. (a series of Dwarf Satellite Galaxies around the Milky Way)
In fact it might be "Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy" the closest Galaxy to us.. in fact Earth is about half way between the Center of Out Galaxy and the outer ring of "Canis Major"

As you can see here.. Pegasus (a satellite of Andromeda) is ALOT! further away

And you actually believe TPTB take this into consideration...? They probably just do a Google search for "galaxy" and pick the ones that sound coolest.

Actually, I'd be willing to stake some money on that...

[thekillman]

ida is thought to be triangulum.

besides, america likes to show off its advancedness. even though your space shuttles suck. russian cargo missiles work better by miles. besides, europe has an experimental fusion reactor, america has LHC. and why would europe bother making such a device when we have america with its vast amounts of money cause they dont like to spend their money on insurance and health. europe is trying to stop the global warming.

europe: we have a plan to stop global warming
america: nice. very nice
europe: we set limitations to CO2 emmissions, below it, you can sell your qoutum, above it means you need to buy quotum
america: EXCELLENT. best idea we've ever heard. now whats the profit
europe: what profit????
America: YOUR IDEA SUCKS!!!!!!!!


thats the inconvenient truth about america. wheras asia doesnt bother about it anyways, and puts tons of effort into pollution reduction for: olympic games. and after its over, its back to old ways again.

america puts money into antimatter research and LHC. europe puts its money into health insurance. in america, you're left for dead. if you're rich, youre ok, but if you're below that, you suck.
so america might be "advanced". but they are primitive as hell on areas other countries are at a good level. its just a way of spending money. america likes to show off. so thats fine. they pose as advanced. inventors of the nuke. not that its that loved btw.
they have LHC. nice.
they have antimatter production. nice.
CO2 emission reduction. a laugh
health ensurance. as long as it doesnt cost money.
space shuttles. worthless.


who cares if youre terribly advanced. its not the level of technology. its how its applied. now if we start looking at the application of technology, well then the asgard sure are a hell lot better. seeing as ancients lost their war with the wraith, they won but in the large picture, lost. now seeing as how earth with the application of a mouse retrovirus can neutralize wraith, and with a race 80 years behind us we made a drug rendering feeding poisonous.

this makes earth most advanced of all. wheras replis, asurans, ori and ancients suck, wheras wraith own, asgard own, and many others aswell

[s09119]

ida is thought to be triangulum.

besides, america likes to show off its advancedness. even though your space shuttles suck. russian cargo missiles work better by miles. besides, europe has an experimental fusion reactor, america has LHC. and why would europe bother making such a device when we have america with its vast amounts of money cause they dont like to spend their money on insurance and health. europe is trying to stop the global warming.

europe: we have a plan to stop global warming
america: nice. very nice
europe: we set limitations to CO2 emmissions, below it, you can sell your qoutum, above it means you need to buy quotum
america: EXCELLENT. best idea we've ever heard. now whats the profit
europe: what profit????
America: YOUR IDEA SUCKS!!!!!!!!


thats the inconvenient truth about america. wheras asia doesnt bother about it anyways, and puts tons of effort into pollution reduction for: olympic games. and after its over, its back to old ways again.

america puts money into antimatter research and LHC. europe puts its money into health insurance. in america, you're left for dead. if you're rich, youre ok, but if you're below that, you suck.
so america might be "advanced". but they are primitive as hell on areas other countries are at a good level. its just a way of spending money. america likes to show off. so thats fine. they pose as advanced. inventors of the nuke. not that its that loved btw.
they have LHC. nice.
they have antimatter production. nice.
CO2 emission reduction. a laugh
health ensurance. as long as it doesnt cost money.
space shuttles. worthless.


who cares if youre terribly advanced. its not the level of technology. its how its applied. now if we start looking at the application of technology, well then the asgard sure are a hell lot better. seeing as ancients lost their war with the wraith, they won but in the large picture, lost. now seeing as how earth with the application of a mouse retrovirus can neutralize wraith, and with a race 80 years behind us we made a drug rendering feeding poisonous.

this makes earth most advanced of all. wheras replis, asurans, ori and ancients suck, wheras wraith own, asgard own, and many others aswell

Um... you need to get your arrogant little head out of the clouds and realize that just because President Bush acts one way doesn't mean that's how Americans themselves feel about these issues...

And no, you're wrong. The United States is still far more advanced than a lot of European countries. Just because the EU uses its technology for (sometimes) better purposes doesn't mean it's more technologically advanced. Your entire argument makes no sense by the very definition of "technologically advanced."

[Kebab Gud]

And you actually believe TPTB take this into consideration...? They probably just do a Google search for "galaxy" and pick the ones that sound coolest.

Actually, I'd be willing to stake some money on that...

Then go see "Rising part1" again.... they get the distance correct.. even stress that its a dwarf galaxy.. You might be right that they picked it because it sounded cool.. but they actually do things right ..

ida is thought to be triangulum.

By who?