yeah, true shame
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Originally posted by stargater1990 View Postyou know what... your right . they are more advance in stargate. take the replicators for example, they were pretty cool werent they..... its a shame they were always trying to kill us and were uncontrollable.....
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Originally posted by Giantevilhead View PostThe Replicators were programmed wrong by an Android with the disposition of a 5 year old who didn't fully understand what they were doing. The Asgard computer core obviously has an extreme advanced form of artificial intelligence, should they scrap it to prevent it from turning bad?
and to be considered an artificial intelegence, you need to be self aware and the asgard computer core isint self aware its just complex enough to design what you want given proper guidelines and instructions.
putting AIs in control of weapons is just not wise. i mean its like sticking a replicator in a 302 and saying fight the wraith and then when it seems impossible to win them the way we want it to it changes tactics and then attacks us or something like that and weve got another problem on our hands. i just dont like the idea of putting AIs in control of weapons.STARGATE ROCKS
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Originally posted by stargater1990 View Posti was talking about the asuran replicators. they are the most advanced AI and never do anything the way their supposed to and thats when the twisted solutions come about that are bad for us.
and to be considered an artificial intelegence, you need to be self aware and the asgard computer core isint self aware its just complex enough to design what you want given proper guidelines and instructions.
putting AIs in control of weapons is just not wise. i mean its like sticking a replicator in a 302 and saying fight the wraith and then when it seems impossible to win them the way we want it to it changes tactics and then attacks us or something like that and weve got another problem on our hands. i just dont like the idea of putting AIs in control of weapons.
Also, artificial intelligence does not need to be self aware or conscious. An artificial intelligence just needs to be able to think. The Replicators that fought the Asgard weren't conscious and neither was the Virus the Wraith used to infect the Daedalus.
As for not wanting to put AI's in charge of weapons, do you know how many military accidents have been caused due to human error? There were over 1,200 "incidents" at NORAD just between 1984 and 1987, dozens of which almost led to nuclear war. There were over 8,000 friendly fire incidents in the Vietnam War. More American soldiers died in the first Gulf War due to friendly fire than enemy attacks. Humans have clearly proven themselves to be extremely fallible.
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Originally posted by Col.Ads View PostHook it upto your xbox sorted!!!!sigpic
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To answer the question of the thread... No. Puddle Jumpers are NOT fighter craft, they are transport vessels. YES, they have defenses, and limited (although powerful) offensive capabilities, but they aren't designed for warfare in the strictest sense. If the Ancient Warships were to have fighter supplements it would've been something else specifically designed for combat.The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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Originally posted by stargater1990 View Postcontroling a ship like an oniell via remote control is easy, you just interface your computer with the oniels and give it instructions like open hyperspace window in such and such direction.
controling fighters is much harder because the computer just dosent do well under battle conditions unless we give it artificial intelegence but thats never EVER a good idea.
take the following movies for example:
1)stealth
2) war games
3) war games the dead code
4) eagle eye
in all of these movies, artificial intelegence toataly screwed us and its just not a good idea to create one to pilot fighters, and without an artificial intelegence, computers just dont work well enough to be a reliable substitute for humans at the controls.Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."
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Originally posted by Giantevilhead View PostAsuran did exactly what they were programmed to do. It was the Ancient's fault for not programming them with a regard for human life.
Also, artificial intelligence does not need to be self aware or conscious. An artificial intelligence just needs to be able to think. The Replicators that fought the Asgard weren't conscious and neither was the Virus the Wraith used to infect the Daedalus.
As for not wanting to put AI's in charge of weapons, do you know how many military accidents have been caused due to human error? There were over 1,200 "incidents" at NORAD just between 1984 and 1987, dozens of which almost led to nuclear war. There were over 8,000 friendly fire incidents in the Vietnam War. More American soldiers died in the first Gulf War due to friendly fire than enemy attacks. Humans have clearly proven themselves to be extremely fallible.
take the matrix trilogy , just another example of how AIs screwed us and i hope the people in stargate are smart enough to see that.STARGATE ROCKS
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Originally posted by stargater1990 View PostAIs are bad knews and nothing anybody says will convince me otherwise. there will always be the possibility of them turning against us or malfunctioning and then were screwed.
take the matrix trilogy , just another example of how AIs screwed us and i hope the people in stargate are smart enough to see that.
Take Back to the Future, Batman 1 - 4, Batman Begins, Casablanca, Children of Men, The Dark Knight, Die Hard 1 - 4, Dr. Strangelove, Firefly, Godfather 1 -3, Kill Bill, Mission Impossible 1 - 3, Predator 1 - 2, Reservoir Dogs, Se7en, The Shining, Sin City, Stargate, Star Trek 2 - 11, Star Wars 1 - 6, Twelve Monkeys, V for Vendetta, X-Men 1 - 3, The X-Files, and thousands of other movies where natural organic beings are the villains. Thousands more examples of how living creatures screwed everything up.
Being afraid of AI because they might turn bad is like being afraid of getting struck by lighting while smoking, doing heroin, driving drunk, and eating Crisco like ice cream while random shooting guns in a car filled with explosives.
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Originally posted by Seastallion View PostTo answer the question of the thread... No. Puddle Jumpers are NOT fighter craft, they are transport vessels. YES, they have defenses, and limited (although powerful) offensive capabilities, but they aren't designed for warfare in the strictest sense. If the Ancient Warships were to have fighter supplements it would've been something else specifically designed for combat.
As for AI.
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Originally posted by Col.Ads View PostAI is flawed in so many ways but its almost inevitable some scientist with the "best of intentions" will someday create something which will destroy us all
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