'Awakening' (203) General Discussion

[Skygate]

While you're welcome to your opinion, I'm a bit tired of the Rush bashing. There are perfectly valid things you can knock him for, but this ain't it. Riley wasn't totally his fault; Young gave the order for them to go to the planet, and it was a risk worth taking, considering their low supplies. **** happens, and regardless of whether the shuttle would have landed safely, there was always the chance there would have been something dangerous on the planet and someone could have died.

Didn't Young give the order to go because Rush lied to them about why Destiny locked out that planet?

[the fifth man]

Great episode. These new aliens could be pretty interesting. Rush is definitely making a lot of bad decisions, and I can't wait to see what happens with Telford.

[Replicator Todd]

Also, Young is beginning to annoy me. He was growing on me in season one, but towards the end of season one to now, he is coming off as being arrogant, ignorant, and I really think he is losing who he is. I know it was said he was gonna be battling his own demons in the beginning of season two. I really want to see where his character will go.

EDIT: And yes, I know he has gone through a lot, but he really began to change even before any of those major impacts occurred (loss of his child, Riley, etc.)

Young has annoyed me since the beginning, I like the character but I don't think he is fit to be leader.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

I hate to say this but do you think Telford was so insistant on staying there cause if he reversed the transfer and that if they made a connection to earth Telford would get his command?

[General Jumper One]

While you're welcome to your opinion, I'm a bit tired of the Rush bashing.

I'm not bashing him, I like Rush...they can't kill Telford he is a main cast member

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

So young says homeworld command is expecting us does that mean that the stargate is at the pentagon?

[jelgate]

I hate to say this but do you think Telford was so insistant on staying there cause if he reversed the transfer and that if they made a connection to earth Telford would get his command?

No I don't. It was just to keep those on Destiny alive.

[jelgate]

I'm not bashing him, I like Rush...they can't kill Telford he is a main cast member

Telford is recurring not main

[Uncle Tobias]

Damn, that was good. Really liked Telford since he got rid of the brainwashing. Hope we see him again.

[the fifth man]

No I don't. It was just to keep those on Destiny alive.

I agree. I think this real Telford is a pretty good guy. I really hope he finds his way back to Destiny soon.

[themeatcleaver]

I agree. I think this real Telford is a pretty good guy. I really hope he finds his way back to Destiny soon.

If he does, it'll be with an army of little brown soldiers!

[zainea13]

No I don't. It was just to keep those on Destiny alive.

I think that was definitely his first motive. But he might have seen that as a perk.

[Kaiphantom]

Didn't Young give the order to go because Rush lied to them about why Destiny locked out that planet?

Destiny didn't really lock it out. It just didn't consider it an option because the gate wasn't working. In that light, Young had the same information Rush did. Young could have easily said: "Hmm, no gate, could be too dangerous. Let's all just sit here and not go." There would have been nothing Rush could have done about that. I suppose people would have still found a way to blame Rush for it, though.

Despite that, going to ANY planet is dangerous. It seems like people want to pin Riley's death on Rush because they hate him so much that everything just HAS to be his fault somehow, while completely ignoring the fact that Young gave the order. Young had the final say. Rush gave them a chance for supplies. A risk? Yes, but then again, everything is.

What would you pick? Sit there and starve, or go to the planet that has vegetation for a chance to get more food? I think you're answer will say very clearly whether Rush is to blame. Does he bear some responsibility for it? Yes. But people are making it sound like Rush deliberately killed the guy. Last I checked, that was done by someone else.

[themeatcleaver]

side note: anyone else catch the symbol/logo they were looking at in one of those rooms? what was that?

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

Everyone has motives. Some good some bad I'm just trying to figure out the LA motives.