Milky War War Spoilers?

[FallenAngelII]

The Lucian Alliance does not, as far as we know, utilize cloning to clone new soldiers. Also, the Lucian Alliance is in no way as numerous as the Wraith were during their great war against the Ancients. Their Ha'tak supply is also limited, especially when they can't even dent Asgard-shielded 304's.

They would need to outnumber our ships 10 to 1 or so to stand even the sliver of a chance seeing as how the Asgard beams tear through Ha'taks like butter and even then it would be a war of attrition (our ships would need to take on heavy fire for a prolonged period of time despite being more mobile than Ha'taks).

[leiasky]

The Lucian Alliance does not, as far as we know, utilize cloning to clone new soldiers. Also, the Lucian Alliance is in no way as numerous as the Wraith were during their great war against the Ancients. Their Ha'tak supply is also limited, especially when they can't even dent Asgard-shielded 304's.

They would need to outnumber our ships 10 to 1 or so to stand even the sliver of a chance seeing as how the Asgard beams tear through Ha'taks like butter and even then it would be a war of attrition (our ships would need to take on heavy fire for a prolonged period of time despite being more mobile than Ha'taks).

Yet a few Lucian Alliance ships made a good dent in The Hammond in SGU's 'Air'.

Not believable if what you say above is true but - it didn't prevent them from doing it to launch SGU.

[Ashizuri]

Wouldn't surprise me if that little comment was thrown into SGU as continuity for when they get to the SG1 movie. My guess is that is what the SG1 movie will be about - the Lucian Alliance throwing everything they've got at Earth.

That was was first thought as well.

Ok, it was my second thought, my first thought was "don't worry Wray, Jack has that covered."

[kymeric]

You are forgetting they had a Colonel feeding them information and specs on Earther technology. Even if the LA has mediocre engineers they should be on an even footing with Earth. Transporters, sheilds, intergalactic hyperdrives and slow beams of doom.

Is anyone really gonna argue that Telford didnt put the specs for everything on a thumb drive and hand it over to the alliance? I mean for bleeps sake they had earth computers and all of the Icarus technology except rushes formula... and that was the highest top secret project ever!

The LA is clearly an even match technologically for Earth.

[morbosfist]

The LA is no match for Earth. Telford does not have access to that kind of technical data. Those are top-secret blueprints that they would under no circumstances just hand out. Telford would get exposed in a second if he tried to steal anything outside of his office.

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

The Lucian Alliance does not, as far as we know, utilize cloning to clone new soldiers. Also, the Lucian Alliance is in no way as numerous as the Wraith were during their great war against the Ancients. Their Ha'tak supply is also limited, especially when they can't even dent Asgard-shielded 304's.

They would need to outnumber our ships 10 to 1 or so to stand even the sliver of a chance seeing as how the Asgard beams tear through Ha'taks like butter and even then it would be a war of attrition (our ships would need to take on heavy fire for a prolonged period of time despite being more mobile than Ha'taks).

Why is cloning the only way for an enemy to have a numerical edge? The LA could be active on scores if not hundreds of worlds, anywhere the Goa’uld held control, which was most of the galaxy. And why would there Ha’tak supply be limited? Since the LA own large amounts of former Goa’uld territory it’s not exactly a reach to assume they have also control some of the Goa’uld ship building worlds.

Even if they don’t have a numerical edge, it’s still quite possible to conduct a guerrilla war when outnumbered. There are currently around 340,000 military and police forces in Afghanistan, who are needed to fight a force of only around 35,000 Taliban. In Northern Island the IRA had only a few thousand members active at one time, and it required tens of thousands of British soldiers to keep the peace.

You seem to have a very symmetrical view of warfare, something that in reality leads nowhere but stalemate. The LA have plenty of methods to attack Earth. They have plenty of cargo ships to bring strike teams and bombs to earth. Raiding on Earth’s bases would be very easy as well, Earth’s forces are very limited and can’t be there at once. Further the LA have already shown in Company of Thieves back in SG1 a skill in ambushes, they already disabled the Odyssey once, they have a knack for it.

[PG15]

If the LA really wanted to destroy Earth, then the ease with which they can do so is almost laughable.

I mean, it's as easy as dialing a Stargate to a blackhole and then tossing it into the sun, then wait for the fireworks.

Or, failing that, just park a few dozen cloaked cargoships in a few dozen major cities on Earth, fill them with naquadah, and then blow them up. This won't destroy Earth of course, but it would successfully remove a good bit of its human population.

Really, Earth is hugely under-defended to any enemy with more than 2 brain cells to rub together, and it will continue to be thus unless it had a planetary shield or something. A few ships and an Ancient city is nothing if they have a limited sphere of influence. Now, speaking of that Ancient city, if it has enough power to extend its shield across the planet (as we know it could), then it's a different story.

But not if the LA supernovas the sun.

[morbosfist]

Causing a sun to go supernova is rather out of the box thinking. I don't think it would occur to the Alliance, since they presumably haven't dialled to a black hole themselves.

[PG15]

Unless they knew about what Carter did all those years ago.

Depending on what Telford has told them, they could have the entire SG1 handbook for all we know.

[Shai Hulud]

Massin, Kiva's Daddy is not going to take kindly to the news that his daughter has been killed by the Destinites. Id say a bit of vengance is in order and vengance is something the LA are very good at.

[morbosfist]

Unless they knew about what Carter did all those years ago.

Depending on what Telford has told them, they could have the entire SG1 handbook for all we know.

I doubt requisitioning all of Stargate Command's files would go down well. He could probably get away with mission logs, which would cover it, but there wouldn't be any reason to. Kiva had him funnel information on Destiny.

Massin, Kiva's Daddy is not going to take kindly to the news that his daughter has been killed by the Destinites. Id say a bit of vengance is in order and vengance is something the LA are very good at.

How's he supposed to know? He doesn't have a spy anymore.

[Shai Hulud]

How's he supposed to know? He doesn't have a spy anymore.

They managed to get one spy into SGC whats to say they dont have another? Or perhaps they were monitoring the planet which the LA dialled from and which exploded just when Earth forces turn up and begin bombarding the planet?

[morbosfist]

Assuming she's dead from the exploding planet is viable. Another spy would be harder to do. Telford was in a unique position.

[Shai Hulud]

Telford was in a unique position.

Really? And you know this how?

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

Morbo,

The LA is no match for Earth. Telford does not have access to that kind of technical data. Those are top-secret blueprints that they would under no circumstances just hand out. Telford would get exposed in a second if he tried to steal anything outside of his office.

Upon what do you base that conclusion?