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hey any ideas on how one of the LA men got like viparised (which was well cool) theres two possabilitys really 1 that its some sort of defence system (like a VI or AI) or there could be some alien being aboard that they dont know about any theorys and pls not stupid theorys like ghosts thats just thick .
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Really really great episode!!
Young is kind of bugging me. So up and down, back and forth, off and on. Sometimes he won't tell anyone anything, keeping everyone in the dark. Sometimes he holds meetings to discuss the best and worst case scenarios with the civilians. Sometimes he's a butt-head to Lt. Scott. Sometimes he gracefully steps to the side and lets Wray negotiate. I don't know. Only very mildly annoyed. Pick a leadership style, man!sigpicTeal'c: "Appearances may be deceiving."
O'Neill: "One man's ceiling is another man's floor."
Daniel: "A fool's paradise is a wise man's hell."
O'Neill: "Never run with...scissors?"
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Originally posted by Blackhole View PostVenting the air in the gateroom would have been far different than when he did so in Telford's compartment. There it was a controlled environment and Young knew he could immediately get to Rush's body to revive him. In the gateroom he may not have been able to get to Telford's body in time to revive him which would as far as he knew at the time have cost both of their lives. All the LA had to have had was portable breathing apparatus and the delay would likely have been fatal for Telford's body. Young was unwilling to chance it.
Instead, Young put *everyone* at risk. Telford is a soldier; it's expected that they are prepared to lose their life in the line of duty. Just like those 302 pilots.
And yeah, as someone mentioned, you can't hold your breath in a vacuum. It's actually worse for you. A human can survive for a short time in space unprotected, but you need to expel all air from your lungs.
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Originally posted by Kaiphantom View PostThen your worst case scenario is: Telford, just 1 person on our side, dies. That's far better than multiple people dying. And come next episode, you'll most likely agree. Yeah, I know, you can' t make decisions knowing the future. But it will show why, when you're in the situation Young was in, that you do not hesitate to do what you need to protect the people you've sworn to protect.
Instead, Young put *everyone* at risk. Telford is a soldier; it's expected that they are prepared to lose their life in the line of duty. Just like those 302 pilots.
And yeah, as someone mentioned, you can't hold your breath in a vacuum. It's actually worse for you. A human can survive for a short time in space unprotected, but you need to expel all air from your lungs.
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Originally posted by Meshakhad View PostHere's my defense of Young - at the time he made the decision, and I had the same information he did, I thought it was a good one. I did not see the LA door openers coming. If Young had known that the LA would be able to override the doors, he might have made a different decision. But he didn't know.
Originally posted by Commander Zelix View PostOne of the thing that was pretty odd and dangerous on the part of Young is when he didn't tell everybody about his plan to get Telford killed to reverse the brainwashing. Sure it made some great TV suspense. But I don't see any upside to it. At one point the whole ship was almost on the point of mutiny. In the sense, that this attempt at killed him could have failed because somebody would have put a stop to it not knowing what Young was planning. For example, the scientists and Brody were on the verge at putting the air back in the room. Wray was going to open the door as well as Scott. It would have been odd if Scott would have knocked Young over and take over the command because, according to him, Young was loosing it.
Originally posted by Lahela View Post...
No, she didn't. She ordered one of her own people to dial. The guy that dialed.
Originally posted by Egle01 View PostI'm thinking Destiny couldn't handle another incoming 9-chevron address and just lost it.
There's only one minor thing that irked me about the whole ep. Why oh why was TJ running after Rush? Right now it seems just a writer's set-up for her being captured.
Originally posted by Kaiphantom View PostThen your worst case scenario is: Telford, just 1 person on our side, dies. That's far better than multiple people dying. And come next episode, you'll most likely agree. Yeah, I know, you can' t make decisions knowing the future. But it will show why, when you're in the situation Young was in, that you do not hesitate to do what you need to protect the people you've sworn to protect.
Instead, Young put *everyone* at risk. Telford is a soldier; it's expected that they are prepared to lose their life in the line of duty. Just like those 302 pilots.
And yeah, as someone mentioned, you can't hold your breath in a vacuum. It's actually worse for you. A human can survive for a short time in space unprotected, but you need to expel all air from your lungs.
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Originally posted by RedXian View PostThat's the question. Those devices seem to fit the locks of the doors quite well.
I have a feeling that the LA have access to another data repository that has more details about Destiny. I wouldn't be surprised if they had found the place the ship was built (I'm assuming it wasn't Earth). Or perhaps they had found the planet the Ancients had originally planned to gate to Destiny from.
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Originally posted by kwlafayette View PostThat would be the logical explanation, they found yet another thing that was not in the Atlantis database. Really, what was the point of the Atlantis database if there is not anything actually stored in it?
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Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View PostI'm sure there are lots of things stored in the database. Whether there's anything stored in there that has anything to do with Destiny is a whole other matter. Perhaps it's why SGA isn't referred to in this series, because it has no bearing on SGU?
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Originally posted by Major_Griff View PostAtlantis, and the Pegasus Galaxy have both been mentioned.
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Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View Postyes, I know there was a passing reference, but it's been very, very brief. It hasn't bveen used to the extent that the SGC has, is all I'm saying
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Originally posted by Lt.Colonel John Sheppard View PostQuestion about Telford: does kiva know that telford was broken free of the brainwashing?
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Originally posted by Lt.Colonel John Sheppard View PostQuestion about Telford: does kiva know that telford was broken free of the brainwashing?
if she thought he was no longer brainwashed, she wouldn't be handing over a weapon and giving up 6 of her men
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Originally posted by Kaiphantom View PostThen your worst case scenario is: Telford, just 1 person on our side, dies. That's far better than multiple people dying. And come next episode, you'll most likely agree. Yeah, I know, you can' t make decisions knowing the future. But it will show why, when you're in the situation Young was in, that you do not hesitate to do what you need to protect the people you've sworn to protect.
Instead, Young put *everyone* at risk. Telford is a soldier; it's expected that they are prepared to lose their life in the line of duty. Just like those 302 pilots.
And yeah, as someone mentioned, you can't hold your breath in a vacuum. It's actually worse for you. A human can survive for a short time in space unprotected, but you need to expel all air from your lungs.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion; you are free along with others to agree with O'Neill that he should have vented the gate room and sacrificed both of them to avert the attack.
And in all fairness I will say again O’Neill’s assessment is hypocritical; when the Replicators still had Sam he could have stopped them if he had used his disruptor weapon on their ship before it lifted off; he was unwilling to fire because it would have meant sacrificing her life to do so. In that instance the stakes were far higher than just the take over of a space ship; our entire galaxy was at risk from a Replicator invasion.Last edited by Blackhole; 06 June 2010, 11:31 AM.
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