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Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View Postexcept that we've already seen that trying to erase Telford's brainwashing resulted in a storm of posts about how wrong that was. Add to that that there was no way for Young to know it wasn't Rush he was also killing if he vented the room, so there'd be a big stink there too. So. No, no need to stop. It's a valid point.
You're trying to conflate opinions that are completely separate in order to justify your position; that's disingenuous. You know better.
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Originally posted by Kaiphantom View PostNo, we're not. People were against torture, and against Young being secretive and not explaining that he was trying to undo brainwashing; Young employed the only method known to work to save a man, and the rest of the crew. Venting the atmosphere early would again be Young employing the best method to save the crew.
You're trying to conflate opinions that are completely separate in order to justify your position; that's disingenuous. You know better.
Originally posted by Lt.Colonel John Sheppard View PostSpeaking of Telford do you think that if he was his normal self back when he was stationed on Icarus He wouldve still kicked rush off the expedition team?
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Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View PostConflated opinions? Maybe it just happens to BE my opinion? I don't get where you think my opinion was disingenuous, but w'evs, you're not making any sense to me.
In order to prove your point, you were trying to link it to people's hatred of Young killing Telford. That is false, because people didn't hate him for that, at all. They had something against torture, but when it was revealed that he was doing it as a treatment to cure the brainwashing, most people agreed it was the right thing to do. At worst, they felt Young should have told Scott and Wray what he was attempting.
Stating the bottom line: If Young had vented the atmosphere, most would have felt he made the right call, tough as it was. They know that only Telford's life as at risk, with a decent chance he'd live.
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Originally posted by Lt.Colonel John Sheppard View Postiff i had to guess it was probably when he was still undercover. he was undercover for a year.
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Originally posted by Lt.Colonel John Sheppard View PostDoes any like the un brainwashed version of telford? cause im glad to see the real Colonel David Telford.
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Originally posted by Lt.Colonel John Sheppard View PostI'm starting to wonder if young was leader of that tau'ri outpost the LA attacked before he was assigned to Icarus. Yeah Telford and young have history Betcha anything they were very good Friends.
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Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View Postto be honest, that was my first thought upon hearing that in the episode, but it didn't get elaborated on so I didn't know for sure. I kind of got the impression that both he and Greer were at that base when it was attacked, but the language seemed blurry and I couldn't be certain if they were talking about Icarus or the previous one
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Originally posted by Lt.Colonel John Sheppard View Postthts someting to ask Joe Mallozzi on his weblog.
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Sorry, I've not read every post but I was wondering about something. A lot of people were complaining in earlier posts that Young should have just carried out his plan and vent the atmosphere in the gate room as soon as the LA guys were coming through, but as long as the gate is open oxygen is coming throygh from the LA icarus planet right, so would that be enough to counterract the venting, if not totally then at least long enough for the LA to use the door openers and escape?
Edit: I've been through some of the other posts and they've said that atmosphere doesn't pass through a gate otherwise Atlantis would lose some atmosphere when they connected to a space gate etc, but it seems atmosphere can pass through a milky way gate when the writers deem it necessary. In the SG-1 episode A Hundred Days, O'Neill is stuck on a planet whose gate is buried by a meteor strike and when Teal'c comes through to dig his way to the surface, it seems he is able to breathe fine as long as the gate is active but will only have 4 hours of air to finish reaching the surface onces the gate shuts down, or have I got it completely wrong and the air was created by the vortex vapourising the surronding soil/stone etc and he only had a limited amount anyway?Last edited by Wib; 11 June 2010, 03:20 AM.
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Originally posted by Wib View PostEdit: I've been through some of the other posts and they've said that atmosphere doesn't pass through a gate otherwise Atlantis would lose some atmosphere when they connected to a space gate etc, but it seems atmosphere can pass through a milky way gate when the writers deem it necessary. In the SG-1 episode A Hundred Days, O'Neill is stuck on a planet whose gate is buried by a meteor strike and when Teal'c comes through to dig his way to the surface, it seems he is able to breathe fine as long as the gate is active but will only have 4 hours of air to finish reaching the surface onces the gate shuts down, or have I got it completely wrong and the air was created by the vortex vapourising the surronding soil/stone etc and he only had a limited amount anyway?
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