Season 1.5 DVD sales?

[Aragon101]

Yes, and once again - I and others are presenting potential reasons as to why SGU's ratings and sales are what they are. To continually call it an 'excuse' is a way of dismissing those variables in favour of what you believe is the case.

After all - I have noticed people who think everything relates back to the quality of the show don't suggest they are making 'excuses'. If suggesting variables are excuses, so is the above.

Which is why the 'reason' i gave for SGU being low in ratings was that people just aren't watching, inconsequential to any variables.Anything beyond that IS an excuse because it's justifying it instead of explaining it.

Inconsequential to quality, timeslot, time of year, whatever, people just aren't watching SGU as much as they are other shows which ave been mentioned here. Since we have no solid information sa you so often mention, anything beyond 'people just aren't watching live" is an excuse because we don't know, a reason is a fact, not speculation.

[Deevil]

Which is why the 'reason' i gave for SGU being low in ratings was that people just aren't watching.

Strange how your reasons have also in the past been that it's just not good.

anything beyond 'people just aren't watching live" is an excuse because we don't know, a reason is a fact, not speculation.

Reason is not always 'fact', it can be logical justification, deduction and speculation.

[Aragon101]

Strange how your reasons have also in the past been that it's just not good.

That was me speaking subjectively. I'm trying to be objective and in the end, it's difficult

Reason is not 'fact', it can be logical justification, deduction and speculation.

Reason implies that it is 'correct' and hence, truth.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it could still be a goose. That's why speculation can't be a valid reason.

Whatever, this is getting offtopic. i need to pick me up Eureka and W13 on DVD Too bad i don't actually get syfy and typically have to wait for the DVDs

[Deevil]

Reason implies that it is 'correct' and hence, truth.

Truth is also not 'fact'. Reason is not 'truth'

Look at all the different meanings of the word 'reason', and show me where it has to be fact? (I don't do the definition thing, but I feel that this called for it.)

Spoiler:

1.a basis or cause, as for some belief, action, fact, event, etc.: the reason for declaring war.
2.a statement presented in justification or explanation of a belief or action.
3.the mental powers concerned with forming conclusions, judgments, or inferences.
4.sound judgment; good sense.
5.normal or sound powers of mind; sanity.
6.Logic . a premise of an argument.
7.Philosophy .
a.the faculty or power of acquiring intellectual knowledge, either by direct understanding of first principles or by argument.
b.the power of intelligent and dispassionate thought, or of conduct influenced by such thought.
c.Kantianism . the faculty by which the ideas of pure reason are created.
–verb (used without object)
8.to think or argue in a logical manner.
9.to form conclusions, judgments, or inferences from facts or premises.
10.to urge reasons which should determine belief or action.
–verb (used with object)
11.to think through logically, as a problem (often fol. by out ).
12.to conclude or infer.
13.to convince, persuade, etc., by reasoning.
14.to support with reasons.
—Idioms
15.bring (someone) to reason, to induce a change of opinion in (someone) through presentation of arguments; convince: The mother tried to bring her rebellious daughter to reason.
16.by reason of, on account of; because of: He was consulted about the problem by reason of his long experience.
17.in / withinreason, in accord with reason; justifiable; proper: She tried to keep her demands in reason.
18.stand to reason, to be clear, obvious, or logical: With such an upbringing it stands to reason that the child will be spoiled.
19.with reason, with justification; properly: The government is concerned about the latest crisis, and with reason.

Now one thing I agree with, this is off topic. I'm just sick of the 'excuse' dismissal.

[Sami_]

It might be more accurate to say that according to a significent amount of human beings located on the planet earth it isn't considered good enough to watch.

Alien standards might be completely different to ours - we just don't know.

[Deevil]

It might be more accurate to say that according to a significent amount of human beings located on the planet earth it isn't considered good enough to watch.

LMAO if we're going by that logic, no television show in history has/is making the ratings!

[Sami_]

LMAO if we're going by that logic, no television show in history has/is making the ratings!

Indeed and SGU's ratings are below most of those shows! lol

[Deevil]

Indeed and SGU's ratings are below most of those shows! lol

Nah, there are shows that have been way worse the SGU. It wouldn't even rank in the bottom 10,000

[Sami_]

Nah, there are shows that have been way worse the SGU. It wouldn't even rank in the bottom 10,000

True, but if we factored in rating per cost I suspect it would rank pretty low.

[Deevil]

True, but if we factored in rating per cost I suspect it would rank pretty low.

I doubt it would rate in the bottom 10,000 even if you did that.

[Sami_]

I doubt it would rate in the bottom 10,000 even if you did that.

If not now it will in the future, typically television shows bleed viewers the longer they go on, if SGU follows suit then I think we'd have a hard time coming up with shows that had significent budgets that rated lower than SGU's projected ratings should they decrease.

[Deevil]

If not now it will in the future, typically television shows bleed viewers the longer they go on, if SGU follows suit then I think we'd have a hard time coming up with shows that had significent budgets that rated lower than SGU's projected ratings should they decrease.

There are a lot of television shows out there in the big wide world, a lot with greater budgets then SGU that rate significantly less. Mind you it's hard to measure price/ratings in this situation so our numbers are always going to be farcical.

[Snookie16]

It might be more accurate to say that according to a significent amount of human beings located on the planet earth it isn't considered good enough to watch.

Alien standards might be completely different to ours - we just don't know.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Sami_ again.

green green and green again if I could! you hit the nail on the head....

[Sami_]

green green and green again if I could! you hit the nail on the head....

hehe ty

I just don't get why people always want to trot out the "you may not like it but others do" argument, we have neither the time or the means to get every single persons perspective on the show so why not discuss issues like quality based on ratings and popularity.

If SGU had set out intending to appeal only to the relative small number of people who watch it today then we could say it was a success and accomplished what it set out to do but the reality is that they set out to create a show that appeals to a wider audience than its predecessors and in that goal it has failed miserably.

[Deevil]

green green and green again if I could! you hit the nail on the head....

He hit a nail over the head, but he far from hit the nail on the head. None of us have because there are a multitude of variables that affect any situation such as this. Ask anyone in distribution of films or television.