The Fourth Horseman, Part 1 (910)

[DangerIsGo]

Does anyone know the name of the song that Dr Lee is listening to during the ep in which hes looking for certain frequencies? Im really into metal and would like to know what song that was. Sam said Dark Pariah, but I did a search for them and I got what sounds like some kids band. It couldnt have been them. If anyone got the name of the real band or song or even some song lyrics, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[Arative]

The whole scene in the beginning with the Lam comment was stupid. Who cares if someone makes a joke about her giving someone a spongue bath? And why would Mitch care?? I don't care!

Mitchell absolutely did the right thing in telling those two to STFU. Lam should have thier respect because one these days, she might be saving thier lives. And of course the whole sexual harrassment thing. I'm sure when your at work, you wouldn't want someone making some crude comment like that about you and the boss doing nothing about it. I thought the entire episode that Mitchell showed some good leadership ability, taking charge of things.

Anyway, I enjoyed the episode. We got to learn more backstory between the Alterans and the Ori. And the Daniel's question about why the Ori do what they do was answered. Also the answer the why the Alterans don't interfere in our plane of exsistence as well as the Alterans believe there are higher levels of ascension.

I liked Gerak, he almost swallowed the belief of Origin hook, line, and sinker but balked at killing fellow Jaffa, showed that he at least had some sort of conscience, when push came to shove, he couldn't kill his fellow Jaffa. Of course the Ori realized that Gerak was thier key to power in the milkway and took away his free will by making him a prior.

It was nice to see Orlin again, even if it wasn't the original actor, helps tie in the rest of the series with past story lines. Of course I think he is going to die and ascend again but I'd prefer him not to ascend to show that his sacrafice was very real.

And it was great to see Hammond again!! I really wasn't expecting that. He wasn't wearing his uniform, so I assume that he was retired or maybe working with the Hayes administration in some sort of cabinet job? I think Landry is doing a good job, he's starting to grow on me now, just like Hammond did. I didn't like Hammond the first couple of episodes either.

[ToasterOnFire]

Does anyone know the name of the song that Dr Lee is listening to during the ep in which hes looking for certain frequencies? Im really into metal and would like to know what song that was. Sam said Dark Pariah, but I did a search for them and I got what sounds like some kids band. It couldnt have been them. If anyone got the name of the real band or song or even some song lyrics, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

It's possible that the song was by Rob Zombie. Just had that feel to it. Can't give you an album or song title though, sorry.

[cafine_us]

Joe Mallozzi or someone said Hammond retired and is serving as an adviser to President Hayes. As a civilian, he'd wear a suit.

[TheObiJuan]

The only thing that bothered me about the episode was Gerek in a small way... going from beach head where he was trying to eliminate them to all of a sudden wanting to accept the ori was alil weird i thought.. HOWEVER I really loved the episode awesome absolutely awesome! i thought it was REALLY funny ( i cant believe no one caught this) when that Lt. from the under cover unit said he wanted a spong bath from Dr. Lam and the Col. said "better not say that around the General" and Col. Michtil said and def. not around me! Meaning because In REAL LIFE THATS HIS WIFE! that was funny!

She is married to Michael Shanks.

[Samuel J. Tilden]

I wasn't particularly thrilled by this episode but it had a few moments. Hearing Hammond's voice again was wonderful even if it was just a cameo. I miss the guy.

Young Orlin was a bit of an oddity. I thought that he was reasonably well cast, but I've yet to see any good reason for bringing him back especially in an episode with so much going on already.

The comments directed toward Doc Lam seemed highly inappropriate (can you imagine a similar scene written back when Frasier was still around?). I guess they need more sex appeal on the show now that Vala's gone and Carter's, well, old.

It looks like they're continuing the Iraq parallels in the Jaffa story-arc with the Ori religion threatening to undermine the new government (not unlike the theocratic designs of certain Shi'ite elements). A Jaffa Civil War seems inevitable, and I look forward to it much more than the interminable council chamber scenes.

In all, I liked this one more than the last two mid-season finales.

[lazerbrain]

I really liked this episode and the one before it. I thought this was the first time this season that things were coming together.

Here's my problem. Shouldn't this episosde be called the Second Horseman? This episode was about the plague coming to Earth. If I remember my Revolulations correctly, Plague or Pestilance is the second horseman of the Apocolypse. I think the four in order are famine, pestilance, was, and death. Maybe this is a little foreshadowing about what will happen in part 2.

Thoughts?

[Kliggins]

I liked this episode; didn't love it, but it kept my interest; and I haven't been able to say that for a while.

[majorsal]

More technoSam, never get enough of her! I thought it was a littlle tactless the way Landry brought up her connection to boy Orlin. And for Lam to chime in; badly done on both parts.

that part of the episode i *hated*. it completely implied that a 'sexual' relationship happened between sam and orlin in season 5's ascension. that's news to me! yes, i'm an s/j shipper, so it disappointed me to no end....



sally

[Seastallion]

I liked this episode... but (grrrrr) I hate cliff hangers..! Oh, well though. From what I hear, the final episode of the season is also going to be a cliffhanger so...

The explanation about the Ori's followers actually makes some sense. In real life, the ancients used to believe that the more followers a particular god had, the more powerful that god was. It seems that the writers decided to follow an 'ancient' ideal in this regard.

[the dancer of spaz]

OK, I haven't read the thread...
The episode started off really well - and then had moments where all I could do was raise an eyebrow a la Teal'c.

The shallow side of me liked to see Daniel and Cameron walk down the hall in gym gear, chatting it up. Cam's smelling of the armpit was disgusting and yet hilarious. I smiled at his complete lack of couth there.

Then there were the scenes with Dr. Lee and Carter. I thought those were funny and telling of their relationship - especially the "Good analogy" scene. It was great, because I was really beginning to wonder if they even liked each other. Good stuff.

Everything was going great. They had Gerak doing his thing with Crazy Prior #1, and you could see that he was kinda wimping out. He almost completely redeemed himself until that final act did him in. Lou Gossett actually sold me on his performance this episode. I'm not a hard sell or anything, but I think I was liking Gerak a lot more this time around than EVERY other time combined.

And then they did it.

Strike 1: They reinforced the Cam/Lam ship concept. With an inappropriate, unprofessional and unnecessary joke. Oy...

Still I was prepared to get over it. They redeemed it by having good ol' Hammond show up for a ceremony. I was close to forgetting all about it.

But that wasn't enough.

Strike 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6: Someone - everyone - brought up Sam and Orlin's "intimate relationship." Twice. Three times.

I gotta tell ya, my blood pressure was so high after that scene with Sam, Lam and Landry in the observation room, that I literally had to rewind the following scenes a couple of times to fully get over it. You may think I'm kidding, but know that I'm not.

The cafeteria scene - though mildly humorous - would have been my undoing, if it wasn't for the fact that the SURROUNDING scenes weren't offensive.

I'm sorry. I watched Birth several months ago. And I'm still scarred.

Anyway, the premise of having the entire country under quarantine is pretty neat. Others may disagree, but I think that this sort of issue is so large-scale and rather plausible, that it's hard to deny the chaos that this would be creating for the US. The cover story won't be good enough for civilians, and the other nations are gonna be REALLY ticked that this happened. The SGC (and subsequently Landry) is gonna get its butt thoroughly kicked when this thing finally blows over.

AT mentioned in a recent interview that she and BBridges were still working out their characters' relationship, and that's becoming more and more apparent. Between "Prototype" and "TFH1," I see Landry as being the least patient of the three - most likely due to their lack of a pre-existing relationship. Whatever the reasons, the awkwardness between them, if it's intentional, is so annoying that it's actually good.

In case you haven't guessed, I'm kinda wishing Orlin had never showed up again. However, with his health issues, it'll be interesting to see how the second part pans out.

To me, Lam and Landry won points in "Prototype," but this episode further cemented my appreciation for them now. Lam's completely sold me, and Landry only has a bit left to go. "TFH2" should do the trick.

More Teal'c please! Yay for Bra'tac coming back! Hammond and Bra'tac back in one episode (a two-parter, no less) can only mean good things.

It was a decent cliffhanger, and I'll definitely be tuning in for the conclusion in January. However, in the future, if they could stop bringing in Sam's past suitors and let her run around a bit more with her P90, that would be FANTASTIC.

[lethalfang]

I liked that Gerak faltered when it came to attacking Chulak. It shows he does have some semblence of a conscience. However, he was very creepy as a prior!!

I can't help but think that, this hesitation in attacking Chulak is a setup to have Garek switch side once again in Part 2.

[JanusAncient]

Orlin is not going to die, he probably will, but he will recover from his illness

Spoiler:

we have screencaps of him visiting the Sodan planet, he watches a wounded Prior, defenseless on the ground

I know the Ancients can seem cold, I really hope that they will not allow one of their own to just die. That part with Gerak at the end was just freaky, I thought we weren't going to see him as a Prior, until second installment, but when he walked through that door, it was like the Jaffa are really screwed now.

Fascinating, Thoth, ancient Egyptian scribe, god, enlightened being, amongst many others, have said that Gods can feed on the positivity of their subjects. This is truly great, what will happen in the upcoming episodes, that has yet to be spoiled, will be spectacular, spectacular, the stuff really does have my interest peaked.

[Schrodinger82]

So the Ancients decide to leave out the communication device in order to uphold free will -- then decide "Whoopse! If the Ori convert everyone, it'll be very bad for everyone" after the fact.

Way to go, Ancients. It looks like you guys really thought this one though.

[mindfire]

I liked this episode and I'm glad they started to explain who the Ori are, and the reason they do what they do.