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[generaloneill]

loved this episode i'm a big fan of games so i thought it was great that this episode revolved around games and the references to doom and def jam vendetta made it all the more better for me.

[captain jake]

very boring episode.... and virtual reality was already explored in stargate. The beginning of season 8 is not good...

It was ok. I'm not a gamer so it put me off a bit.

Well I have to disagree with both of you on this one. I am not a gamer in any sense of the word except for a couple computer games. However the story was still interesting to me the way he was involved in something only daniel could help him out of was awesome.

You say virtual reality was already explored well we can explore it again. thats like you saying we have already saved a race of people before we shouldnt ever do it again.

[Dani347]

To me, Avatar was never really about a virtual reality game. That was just the tool they used to tell the story. To me, it was about finding out that Teal'c had been fighting the Goa'uld all that time, with no hope that they would win. It was shocking and really got into his mind. Season 9 spoiler:

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Which is why I felt that him telling Mitchell that he had no doubt the Goa'uld would be defeated was ignoring canon

And, it was about Daniel suggesting that they work together in the game (and reminding him that they were in it together in real life).

[Exiled Master]

They had an opportunity for a lot of gamer stuff but they missed it. Like writing 'I pwn n00bs' on the floor or something.

[captain jake]

To me, Avatar was never really about a virtual reality game. That was just the tool they used to tell the story. To me, it was about finding out that Teal'c had been fighting the Goa'uld all that time, with no hope that they would win. It was shocking and really got into his mind. Season 9 spoiler:

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Which is why I felt that him telling Mitchell that he had no doubt the Goa'uld would be defeated was ignoring canon

And, it was about Daniel suggesting that they work together in the game (and reminding him that they were in it together in real life).

Wow hahaha dani you are so funny "ignoring cannon". Had not alot of things changed between the time avatar aired and season 9? He never would have suspected that the replicators would have come and basically defeated there enemy for them. would he have?

[Dani347]

Wow hahaha dani you are so funny "ignoring cannon". Had not alot of things changed between the time avatar aired and season 9? He never would have suspected that the replicators would have come and basically defeated there enemy for them. would he have?

Yeah, I'll have them rolling in the aisles when I do my stand up act. I don't see how knowing the replicators would come in has anything whatsoever to do with my comment that Avatar revealed that Teal'c did not believe that we would win the fight against the Goa'uld and then in season 9 saying

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that he always knew that they would be defeated.

Exactly where do the replicators or his thoughts about the replicators come into that equation?

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He didn't say that later on he felt confident because of the replicators. He said he never had any doubts. Season 9 he told Mitchell that he knew all along that the Goa'uld would lose. This is ignoring canon because Avatar cleary shows that he did not know all along. He had doubts. This is canon. Nothing changes the fact that those doubts were there. He may gradually have lost those doubts, but his comment to Mitchell says they never existed in the first place. Not true.

Again, nothing to do with the replicators.

[luthienberen]

very boring episode.... and virtual reality was already explored in stargate. The beginning of season 8 is not good...

I have to agree - very boring. Nothing about the ep screamed 'interesting' to me.

[captain jake]

Yeah, I'll have them rolling in the aisles when I do my stand up act. I don't see how knowing the replicators would come in has anything whatsoever to do with my comment that Avatar revealed that Teal'c did not believe that we would win the fight against the Goa'uld and then in season 9 saying

Spoiler:

that he always knew that they would be defeated.

Exactly where do the replicators or his thoughts about the replicators come into that equation?

Spoiler:

He didn't say that later on he felt confident because of the replicators. He said he never had any doubts. Season 9 he told Mitchell that he knew all along that the Goa'uld would lose. This is ignoring canon because Avatar cleary shows that he did not know all along. He had doubts. This is canon. Nothing changes the fact that those doubts were there. He may gradually have lost those doubts, but his comment to Mitchell says they never existed in the first place. Not true.

Again, nothing to do with the replicators.

It had to do with it because although it was true that in this episode he did not believe the gou'ald would ever be defeated his oppinion changed. How do you think he ever got out of the game? Daniel convinced him that the gou'ald could be defeated. That is not the only thing that changed his mind the REPLICATORS changed his mind because they dwindled the strength of the gou'ald making him realize that the gou'ald were weak and they COULD be defeated. Which is why teal'c said in season 9 what he did. When you say you do not see what it had to do with your comment "whatsoever" only showed your unwillingness to read through my post and truly understand it.

[PG15]

Ok, here's how it goes:

Season 9: Teal'c says he's never doubted the defeat of the Goa'uld.

Season 8: Teal'c doubted the defeat of the Goa'uld.

See the contradiction? It doesn't matter what made him "un-doubt" the defeat of the Goa'uld, it's the fact that for a period of time he had doubt.

[Dani347]

Thank you, PG15. I would have written a long post trying to explain what I meant and it still wouldn't be read or understood.

When you say you do not see what it had to do with your comment "whatsoever" only showed your unwillingness to read through my post and truly understand it.

Yep, I'm unwilling to read posts that I'm responding to. I find it's so much bother. Much easier to randomly click on a post and respond without knowing what I'm responding to.

That last bit was sarcasm, btw.

[Sheppard]

this was a great episode i was hoping that they were going to use those graphics for the stargate the alliance but they cancelled that game so that made me really annoyed

[MasterPower]

I recently got season 8 on DVD, and it had been a while since I had watched episodes from that season. I knew I had liked Avatar, but when I watched it again I thought that it was THE BEST EPISODE EVER!

Avatar had great action and a great story line. All in all, I give it two thumbs up, 5 stars, and ten out of ten.

[Slade 155]

I saw a little preview thing during the ep before this one.. Teal'c gets stuck in a video game? Laaaame..

But it actually turned out quite nice. The video game parts still kinda threw me off (bad graphics, "armor 100%", that sorta thing) but after the start it got better when I realised he wasn't getting out any time soon. The suspense was great because didn't think like "Well, I'm sure they'll get out of this one way or another". I mean I did think that, but I felt less confident about it. That that's good. Also the action was pretty nice. I liked thye part where teal'c hides behind a table (giant man trying to fit into a very small space..) and the supersoldier walks by, sees teal'c crouching next to him- byebye. So yeah, good episode once again.

[Beckmen]

I am pretty sure that Chloe (from Avenger 2.0) is in this episode. Probably not Jocelyne Loewen who played her in the first episode, but a decent look-alike. Check out 4:56 on the DVD. In the background. There are some other shots of her throughout the episode, where you can see her face and it's not Chloe, but it still looks a lot like her in certain shots.

I thought that was a nice little touch, even if it might have been unintentional.

[lunapasa]

I really liked the part where O'Neill suggested plugging in a joystick to help .