Rules of Engagement (309)

[gateship15]

i totally agree in some episodes i have seen that one person is the reason a mob would attack them and if they go to that town to get to that person without killing many zats would work well and they wouldn't be sentenced to death for murder

[shinysign]

I agree that accidentally firing twice could happen, and may happen often, but it would still in the end kill far less than the guns. Say it happened one every four times, which is way overestimating as we have rarely seen say, Teal'c hit the same guy twice, once they fall over with the zat, you don't shoot them anymore. But if it did happen one out of four times, it would still save 1 out of 4 lives that their gun kills.

Also, when they stumble accross a 'misguided' little town or city, which has happened a lot, they need a way to disable an angry mob or the leaders without just massacring everyone with guns. They go to these little townss and bring guns, can't use them because they don't want to kill innocent but misguided civilians, then they are sentenced to death or something and they have to escape, it happened in many episodes. A few zats and they could knock a bunch of people out and run away, or sneak around and disable people if they are looking for Merlin's book or whatever they end up needing in these small towns. In other words, they are caught too much by 'less advanced' races simply because they naturally refuse to kill them but have no other way of disabling them. Can you imagine the Asguard getting caught in some little medieval town? I don't think they would let it happen and would bring an alternative to killing the townspeople. Just an idea, and my two cents.

All of the advanced aliens use beam weapons anyway, beam weapons are more advanced and they must prefer them due to some sort of tactical or practical advantage they give, such as not having to reload.

[Ulkesh47]

i agree it they all used zat guns many people would not die

Zat guns in my opinion are not a viable option here because in a combat-simulation setting, it would not be unrealistic that someone would get shot twice straight due to an accident or overzealous trigger finger etc...

[gateship15]

i agree it they all used zat guns many people would not die but it may be sg1 may not use them all the time because altho affective they may not find zating the enemy worth it since only stunning a person who believes in so strongly as the jaffa and others do zating them will only mean they will live to fight again

[shinysign]

I also thought the Intars were cool - if Teal'c carries a stun weapon, then SG-1 should pack some Intar clips, they could save quite a few lives by stunning people instead of killing them.

There are many episodes where a few Intars to a misled leader of a town would resolve the entire show, because they won't just go around killing anyone who disagrees with them, but stunning them for a day would have gotten them out of many tight binds.

Of course earth might not be able to duplicate the alien Intar technology, and tranquilizer darts are far too slow to load, so maybe that could be a reason why they are never seen again.

At the very least, I think they should all carry the zap guns - why should Teal'c be the only one using one?

[Butlersgate]

one of the best episodes, i love o'neill especially with the mortors and he just is so annoyed that he is getting shot at like it never happens.

[gateship15]

i agree i love the huge apophis

[balo]

Watched it for the first time today and I think it was ok but nothing special.

Some of the Go'ould weapons and the big hologram of Apophis was pretty cool.

[gateship15]

i don't know i think they went back to were they came from. altho I'm to sure this is a great episode tho

[RononXSpecialist]

What I wanna know is...
Did all of the Apophis guys join SG-1 Units or be absorbed into the Society?

[JARVISBRODIE]

I thought, from my prospective, they were going show the STARGATE very much in any episode.

[Matt G]

More likely they were brainwashed rather than taken against their will.

[L E E]

Well they are not Jaffa, they were taken against their will and indoctrinated to believe Apophis was a God (I'm sure he used some of his "magic" to prove this). A God can't die but there Apophis was not only dying but fearing death.


I think Rogers said that they were all taken from their planets, most probably against their will because lets face it when have the Goa'uld asked people to join them, more join/serve me or die. Since Apophis downfall wasn't that long ago we can assume that they were taken only a few months ago.

I'm a bit confused here. If the trainees were taken against their will, and only recently, how come no one even tried to run away. Their masters have been away for quite some time.

[Black_Sheep]

This was a good episode. I agree with what Zoso said about Apophis. It was great to see some military action again

[ZoSo]

I like the idea of this episode. It really gives you insight into how evil Apophis really is. That whole "Final Challenge" thing is pretty scary. And we learn that Teal'c went through the same thing in his training.

I thought the mortars raining down on them was a pleasant surprise (for the viewer, anyway.)

Did anyone notice this is the episode where Carter gets that awful scar on her face? You see her face bleeding, and then you see a close up of Jack prone next to the tree, and there are some nasty looking thorns right there. It seems to me she got nailed by a thorn while diving for cover or something. And then for the rest of the season she has a scar right there. You think that was real or was it intentional like Jack's scar from "Demons"? I find it hard to believe that they intentionally put that unsightful scar on her face in all those episodes just for consistancy.