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Originally posted by AGateFanThis is exactly it. Hammond LEAD the mission that covered SG-1... where is his CMOH?
SG-1 actually saved the world.... where are their CMOH?
Hell, Jonas gave up the ability to live on his own homeworld to bring us a mineral that helped us build the Promethus which Hammond lead to help cover SG-1 to save the world.... where is his medal? In fact, he actually helped save the world once before joining SG-1 in Redemption... I didnt hear a lot of people going ooohhh jonas we soooo ooooowwwwweeee youuuuuuu. No, he did what he had to do and then he moved on. He grudgingly got the respect of SG-1.
They don't need CMOHs to validate their existences or to justify their places at the SGC.
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I pasted the below from a characterization of Mitchell from GW.
but the Colonel had difficulty finding anyone worthy of joining his team. He appealed to the former members of SG-1 to return, but was turned down.
Mitchell is a highly competent and enthusiastic leader, dedicated to military service and excited to be a part of the team he has until now only watched from the outside.
I find it ironic that he couldn't find anyone worthy of joining SG-1 when in fact he wasn't worthy of leading SG-1. And how much knowledge did Mitchell have of SG-1? I thought this was a top secrect facility, on a need to know bases. If he did read mission reports why did he have access to them?
I am not even going to comment on him being a competent leader.Odo's last wishes: cremate me, put me in my bucket, then shoot me through the wormhole.
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Originally posted by Roguebut the Colonel had difficulty finding anyone worthy of joining his team. He appealed to the former members of SG-1 to return, but was turned down.
He had more than enough people to choose from. His time would have been better spent choosing three of them than bothering, and in Sam's case guilt-tripping, the original members of the team.
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Originally posted by ReganXJack, Sam, Teal'c, Daniel, Hammond and Jonas are all heroes as opposed to hewoes.
They don't need CMOHs to validate their existences or to justify their places at the SGC.
Originally posted by Roguesnip but the Colonel had difficulty finding anyone worthy of joining his team. He appealed to the former members of SG-1 to return, but was turned down. snipJoseph Mallozzi -"In the meantime, I'm into season 5 of OZ (where the show takes an unfortunate hairpin turn into "the not so wonderful world of fantasy")"
^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?
AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.
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Originally posted by AGateFanWow, that’s really it in a nutshell isn’t it? Just as they did not have to pimp any of these actors to make the show successful for 8 years, they never had to pimp the characters either. It just shows how weak they apparently thought the character would be… or just how weak their writing is.
The changed his rank, added a CMOH and a ridiculously contrived "hewo getting the band back together" storyline but they didn't change the character to match his record.
Originally posted by AGateFanI wouldnt want to be a member of his team either. He is not even a good enough leader to get competent people to come interview for him. All the competent people are now applying for SG-2 and above. SG-1 needed to come back to save their teams reputation more then anything else. To bad is a losing cause.
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Originally posted by RogueMitchell is a highly competent and enthusiastic leader, dedicated to military service and excited to be a part of the team he has until now only watched from the outside.
you know, i've actually tried, and i can't pick a single airman under me i'd want to serve under Mitchell. i can pick a few that would do a darn good job shoving him into line though.
question: why the h*ll should i CARE that its mitchell's 200th trip through the gate!?! he's ONE freakin officer at the SGC. this is supposed to be the episode celebrating the 200th EPISODE, in season TEN and the amazing characters, actors, and crew that got them there, NOT "ooh, look at our new shiny lead that's been around for a whole TWO seasons!!! isn't he so shiny?!!"sigpic
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Originally posted by ParadoxRealitiesthis is supposed to be the episode celebrating the 200th EPISODE, in season TEN and the amazing characters, actors, and crew that got them there, NOT "ooh, look at our new shiny lead that's been around for a whole TWO seasons!!! isn't he so shiny?!!"
You're absolutely right that it should be about the characters, actors and crew that brought them this far, not just about those who joined up towards the end.
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Originally posted by ReganXTechnically, Mitchell will have one and a quarter seasons done by episode 200.sigpic
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Originally posted by ParadoxRealitiesquestion: why the h*ll should i CARE that its mitchell's 200th trip through the gate!?! he's ONE freakin officer at the SGC. this is supposed to be the episode celebrating the 200th EPISODE, in season TEN and the amazing characters, actors, and crew that got them there, NOT "ooh, look at our new shiny lead that's been around for a whole TWO seasons!!! isn't he so shiny?!!"
I read the GW article on Uninvited & 200 and immediately stomped over to this thread. (Actually, first i stopped at the article thread and chuckled as people tried to figure out the 200th trip thing, THEN i stomped over here). Ya know, people keep saying that it's an over-reaction to claim that Mitchell has taken over the show, but if one doesn't see the hewo-centricism in 200's premise (assuming we're interpreting the meaning of "200th trip" correctly), one is very likely blind.Last edited by DEM; 05 July 2006, 01:08 PM.
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Originally posted by DEMDude.
I read the GW article on Uninvited & 200 and immediately stomped over to this thread. (Actually, first i stopped at the article thread and chuckled as people tried to figure out the 200th trip thing, THEN i stomped over here). Ya know, people keep saying that it's an over-reaction to claim that Mitchell has taken over the show, but if one doesn't see the hewo-centricism in 200's premise (assuming we're interpreting the meaning of "200th trip" correctly), one is very likely blind.
Anyway if Cam is the center focus of this ep, I am going to puke.Odo's last wishes: cremate me, put me in my bucket, then shoot me through the wormhole.
Rogue
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Originally posted by RogueI have read that sentence several times. Its very poorly written. It kinda makes it sound like Cam 200th trip, but I don't think he has been on the team that long. And I am sure Sam, Teal'c and Daniel have been thru the gate more than 200 times. It would make more sense if was SG-1 200th mission.
Anyway if Cam is the center focus of this ep, I am going to puke.
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Originally posted by RogueI have read that sentence several times. Its very poorly written. It kinda makes it sound like Cam 200th trip, but I don't think he has been on the team that long.
Assume each mission involves 2 trips through the event horizon:
200/2 = 100 missions.
Episode 200 is 10.6, which would be approx. 58 weeks for Mitchell. Let's round down to one year, assuming leave time.
100 missions/52 weeks = 1.9 missions per week.
That amount of activity would be in keeping with series history, I think. Moreover, Mitchell's actual average is most likely lower than 1.9 because many missions involve more than 2 trips thru the stargate.
... then again, I wouldn't be surprised if there is dialogue in 200 that explains that Mitchell has accomplished his 200th trip In Record-Breaking Time!
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Originally posted by DEMYes, the sentence is atrociously written. I do, however, think that the "Cam's 200th" interpretation is correct.
Assume each mission involves 2 trips through the event horizon:
200/2 = 100 missions.
Episode 200 is 10.6, which would be approx. 58 weeks for Mitchell. Let's round down to one year, assuming leave time.
100 missions/52 weeks = 1.9 missions per week.
That amount of activity would be in keeping with series history, I think. Moreover, Mitchell's actual average is most likely lower than 1.9 because many missions involve more than 2 trips thru the stargate.
... then again, I wouldn't be surprised if there is dialogue in 200 that explains that Mitchell has accomplished his 200th trip In Record-Breaking Time!Joseph Mallozzi -"In the meantime, I'm into season 5 of OZ (where the show takes an unfortunate hairpin turn into "the not so wonderful world of fantasy")"
^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?
AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.
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