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    #23476
    Sure no worries Sal.. I've had a look through the rest of the Moebius kiss caps and that was the only open mouthed one... but I'll lighten some more up anyway

    Originally posted by majorsal
    hi, myrth. i have a plea to make of you. since you're so good at brightening up dark kiss scenes, would you mind working on *more* from 'moebius' AND 'grace'? i loved how your lightening up of the moeb kiss showed us sam and jack's lips

    but only if this isn't too hard to do.




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      #23477
      Originally posted by Pacific Jack
      I wont give up the ship until I have to. And, I hope I don't have to. But, to be as precise as possible in my thinking I have to follow what has happened so far on screen. Sam and Jack have been in love since at least S4 and probably since S2. They finally got together in Threads. Fishing was the metaphor for their coupling. Okay, so far so good. RDA was leaving the show and you are right that they could not emphasize their relationship anymore so as to incorporate new characters and storylines. But, since the start of S9
      Spoiler:

      all reference to anything Sam and Jack, except for EDM, has been at best vague and at worst negative to the ship. Ripple Effect, and I hate to keep bringing that up, changed the dynamics of the ship IMO. Either Sam's pass at Marty was at least mental cheating on Jack if they are together off screen, or they are not in an "official" relationship. We have no proof of either of this from what has been happening this season. We are all left to wondering what is going on. My thought is that RDA might have seen this episode and concluded that they are changing what had occurred to Sam and Jack for whatever reason. He MAY have decided to skip returning for a guest appearance so as not to negate the integrity of his character. If he does make a guest appearance, it will most definitely be to get his lady. But, I will not be satisfied if the writers choose to simply ignore what happened in RE and act as if nothing had happened. Something did happen and it needs to be dealt with. I want Sam and Jack closure, but I want it done the right way not just any way. I know its only a TV show and not real life, but they need to remain within the reality created by the writers. Like all stories, even fiction, things must remain in context. I fear that the writers may just decide to disregard the "pass" and pick up Sam and Jack where they left off in Threads. Probably most shippers will be delighted with this outcome, but to me it will seem oddly engineered and unconvincing. I may be demanding and unrealistic concerning this issue, but it will be the only way I can accept the previous canon.


      Jack
      But if they do bring back RDA for the 200th (please please please) then a fair bit of time will have passed since season 9 - so any issues that they had as a couple regarding season 9 would have to have been dealt with before, and it would have been well over a year since Threads, so they really couldn't pick up from there.

      We're not stupid. We know what they've been up to offscreen

      I would have thought that essentially, as they've ignored it during season 9, that there would be no way that the writers would include an in depth ship between Sam and Jack, especially if it only appears in one episode.

      Personally, I would be happy with Jack coming back to SGC for major crisis (cos thats the only way he'd stick around with significant screen time), one overt shippy bit to say "Hey, look!! They're together!! Happy now? (A resounding yes, methinks), then on with the adventure - with subtle shippy bits along the way - would love a private joke, with the two of them grinning at each other, while Daniel looks completely confused in the background
      The duke had a mind that ticked like a clock and, like a clock, it regularly went cuckoo.

      Stargate is not an obsession. I can give it up anytime I want!

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        #23478
        Originally posted by Toll Verliebt
        When, Where?? TELL ME!! TELL ME EVERYTHING!!!! *grabs collar and starts shaking hard* TELL ME!!
        I just might faint from lack of oxygen to my brain. When I read that I was squeeing so hard I couldn't breath! please tell me when that happened!!
        Breathe in....Breathe out. Ex Deus Machina episode. I'll get back to you but I'm being...............dragged .............away ...............from .............the ...............computer. We are having dinner out. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
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          #23479
          Originally posted by nell
          Yes, I am expecting a surprise next season. We were, after all, surprised with the pivotal episode Threads. TPTB can surprise us again when RDA returns. I'm telling you, he will!!!

          Presently, RDA is not, um, present.
          Spoiler:
          So TPTB, for reasons known only to them, have decided that it will not work for the development of this season's team to interject references of Jack. I DISAGREE!!

          But, I am counting on RDA to return for at least the 200th anniversary episode. He's that kind of guy. TPTB want ratings. A Win-Win situation.

          In the meantime, TPTB are writing episodes that delve into the working relationships of the Team. No one's personal life is being developed outside of the brief Landry-Lam father/daughter conflict. I bet when Sam and Daniel share lunch together or see each other off the base, they talk about personal matters. Like Jack. And Sam and Jack. And Sam and Jack dating. Yadda yadda yadda.

          Hey, we got a big, honkin' clue about Sam's personal life when she replied to Barrett"s, "so you're single again?" with the squeeable "Not exactly." JACK.CANON.JACK.CANON!!!

          OK, just so you don't think I'm completely delusional and in denial. I don't like that TPTB aren't weaving some minimal Ship in scenes where it would be congruent with the scene. So, yes, I fill in the blanks myself but based on Canon and logical assumptions based on hints.


          Don't give up The Ship!!!

          It has already been confirmed O'Neill won't be back for the 200th episode.

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            #23480
            Originally posted by anne87
            Personally, I would be happy with Jack coming back to SGC for major crisis (cos thats the only way he'd stick around with significant screen time), one overt shippy bit to say "Hey, look!! They're together!! Happy now? (A resounding yes, methinks), then on with the adventure - with subtle shippy bits along the way - would love a private joke, with the two of them grinning at each other, while Daniel looks completely confused in the background
            sound like , little
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              #23481
              Originally posted by dexterav
              sound like , little
              Really didn't think of that - well, my evening's brightened up!!

              The duke had a mind that ticked like a clock and, like a clock, it regularly went cuckoo.

              Stargate is not an obsession. I can give it up anytime I want!

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                #23482
                Originally posted by MasterPower
                It has already been confirmed O'Neill won't be back for the 200th episode.
                why does that not surprise me.
                Franklin said, "They that can give up essential liberty for a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

                "Do or do not. There is no try." Yoda


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                  #23483
                  where was it confirmed?

                  can't say I blame him personally.
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                  Part 2 coming very soon!! (this is a fic btw, not the Fandemonium novel)

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                    #23484
                    Confirmed where? and by who?

                    Originally posted by MasterPower
                    It has already been confirmed O'Neill won't be back for the 200th episode.
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                      #23485
                      Originally posted by MasterPower
                      It has already been confirmed O'Neill won't be back for the 200th episode.
                      but no surprise for me , but wait for official
                      if this thing true Titanic realy crashed with iceberg and going down a realy quickly
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                        #23486
                        MasterPower...where did you read about this confirmed report that RDA will not be back for 200th episode. I think it would be major news particularily with season 9's ratings going in a downward spiral.

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                          #23487
                          Originally posted by STARGATE7777
                          MasterPower...where did you read about this confirmed report that RDA will not be back for 200th episode. I think it would be major news particularily with season 9's ratings going in a downward spiral.
                          I saw it on either Sg1archive.com or stargate-solutions.com.
                          I forgot which one. All I remember is that it said don't expect O'Neill to make an appearance in the 200th episode.
                          But maybe he'll appear in another episode ... so who knows.

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                            #23488
                            It could be a crushing blow to the Show if RDA is not in the episode.I'am not sure how long Shippers will be able to keep watching the Show.If TPTB cannot get RDA to appear I think a Sam one way Phone call scene is in order.

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                              #23489
                              Originally posted by STARGATE7777
                              MasterPower...where did you read about this confirmed report that RDA will not be back for 200th episode. I think it would be major news particularily with season 9's ratings going in a downward spiral.

                              Are the really going down that badly? I had no idea. I knew I wasn't to fond of it, but I guess no one else is either. It's because they got rid of RDA.

                              I'm not surprised that he isn't coming back, either. I wish he was.

                              Did they get new writers? The whole thing has changed so much!


                              Proud Member of the Ship Ship Hooray Special Ops Team

                              I've Been SPANKed by the Love Monkey!!

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                                #23490
                                Originally posted by MasterPower
                                I saw it on either Sg1archive.com or stargate-solutions.com.
                                I forgot which one. All I remember is that it said don't expect O'Neill to make an appearance in the 200th episode.
                                But maybe he'll appear in another episode ... so who knows.
                                in this time sounds like a rumors, nothing more
                                but fingers must crossed, little better
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