Originally posted by JackandSamAddict
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Oh, I definitely agree with you, he wasn't dead...when Cam pulls Sam away (and they are focused on Jack), if you go in slowmotion, or use WMM like I did, you will see his head slightly move, his eyes and his mouth slightly move as well, I noticed the mouth thing while making vids recently.
So I agree, he was alive when they left him. Although, I believe he would have died, if not on the way to the gate, on the other side.
So I agree, he was alive when they left him. Although, I believe he would have died, if not on the way to the gate, on the other side.
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I agree with both of you. That helps to explain she was reacting with as much shock as she did. If he wasn't still alive, she would have been more resigned or just maybe she trusted cam's judgement on it and with showing respect, even if she didn't agree with it, she had to leave him. It emotionally killed her to leave Jack there alone though.
I believed he was dead when they left him. i was just yelling an anguished "NOOO!!!""" before consoling myself that I would see him alive again. The AU Jack really annoyed me with how he was acting, so I've got an idea of how Sam could have gotten through to him, then he ended up in one way or another joining the rest of the group at the end. Maybe because he didn't, it showed that in the their alter AU timeline, their Jack was truly dead. He died when the timeline changed after they left, leaving a clean slate.
I have an idea/theory- in every timeline AU or crossed over timelines, the Jack there is always a military man, working in the SGC and it's as if he has always has a hidden bitterness or sadness about him. He's with Sam too in one way or another, in each of them.
However, when our Jack doesn't make it through, the Jack they find has no knowledge of any of them or the military operations to do with the stargate programme- he states he's special ops instead, no knowledge or even love of or for Sam, still has charlie and still has a marriage to Sara, while the others still have the alternate selves memories or things they liked to do before hand intact, even back when they were still alive. Sam was in NASA after all without the stargate programme, Daniel still has this theories about aliens and our Daniel tries to reassure his alternative self as a result. Mitchell was never even born, Teal'c still died free, giving his life to protect and defend his yet to be freed Jaffa and Vala still has the original symbiote she had before and she still manages to fight her way free from Baal's reign of terror even when she has it. She was matched with Quetesh in that respect.
They all still have something from their original selves in their alternatives, except for Jack. Yes times had changed and Vala and Teal'c both disappeared but they hadn't died in it. Jack did. Teal'c and vala just ceased to esixt in that timeline, Jack physically died in it. That's where the difference lies in the character traits for the alternatives, as everyone else had lived. Jack was so cruel and cold because he didn't have any residue memories from the past timeline of himself to go from or to interact with, so he himself became an 'alternative' alternative and thought he was possibly going to lose his son through their words and the hidden possible truth in it. He simply couldn't bear it and just left it. Now I can understand it. He had no 'original' character traits to go with it, the rest did.
Landry believed it. He went and worked with it. He also didn't die in the orignial timeline before they changed it. So none of his original character traits did. Hammond was still Hammond and the team still recognised it, just as they did with Landry but they couldn't with Jack- there wasn't the 'original' character traits left from their time working with the stargate programme to recognise it. It's was like for the AU Jack, the stargate programme didn't exist and in a small, yet significant way, it never did.
With Mitchell's way of establishing himself into stargate history he had to do something big, which he did but none of the others did- they were already established in it and with the small exception of Jack, just did what in those situations they normally did and reacted how they would potentially normally react. When it came to being out of character, in some respects most of them never did.
The end of the film with them running for the gate, now that was a classic ending for them before the timeline resets itself and Mitchell still ends being hailed as a hero.
Evening, penguins! 
It makes me want to give him a hug. 
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It was a classic film.
. Cause it was one of the funniest and cleverest things I've heard or read in a long time.
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