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Daniel Jackson/Vala Mal Doran Ship/Discussion/Appreciation Thread
In regards to the scene where Vala supposedly has had an affair with Arlos, Claudia Black actually went and saw Robert Cooper about it. Her words "Is this really who you see Vala as? You really see her as a girl who is talking about it all the time, but is actually doing it? That she doesn't discriminate? CB adds "..those who talk about it all the time are probably not getting any!" RC agreed.
So a scene was shot where Vala confesses to Daniel and Cam that she got Arlos drunk and let him believe what he wanted to believe, but it was cut.
I also like this cut scene-Daniel and Cam are dragging our an unconscious patron of the bar, followed by Vala rubbing her knuckles-implying she knocked him out!
Djay
Oh thank god!!! And thanks Djay for providing some substance to my deluded beliefs! Are those scenes all from the box set DVDs?
And Cat I just emailed MoL8 with epilogue to you, thanks again!
In regards to the scene where Vala supposedly has had an affair with Arlos, Claudia Black actually went and saw Robert Cooper about it. Her words "Is this really who you see Vala as? You really see her as a girl who is talking about it all the time, but is actually doing it? That she doesn't discriminate? CB adds "..those who talk about it all the time are probably not getting any!" RC agreed.
So a scene was shot where Vala confesses to Daniel and Cam that she got Arlos drunk and let him believe what he wanted to believe, but it was cut.
I also like this cut scene-Daniel and Cam are dragging our an unconscious patron of the bar, followed by Vala rubbing her knuckles-implying she knocked him out!
Djay
Yeah, I remember the first part about Arlos. It's a shame. What was it, maybe a line? They couldn't find a way to put that in there (unless it was a part of a larger scene that was cut). I've never heard of the second cut scene. Where did you read/hear about that one??
Time to answer my own questions..
1. Who looks better in leather: Cameron, Daniel, or Vala?
Gotta say, I'm a sucker for scruffy, leather-clad Daniel. Although, Cam was just as sexy...and seemed infinitely more comfortable in leather (a hint at what Cam is doing in his personal like, perhaps ). Vala always looks great in leather, but I can't say I'm the biggest fan of the particular outfit she sports in this episode. I much prefer the one she dons in CoT and FT.
2. There's been some dispute over the Arlos/Vala connection (whether or not they actually had an "intimate" relationship). Supposedly, they shot a scene that made it clear Vala/Arlos were never that close...what do you think? Do you think Vala and Arlos had an affair? If so, why? Was it just for the bracelets and locket?
You know, I've always taken Vala for the one who's all talk. Even when she tries to seduce Daniel, I get the feeling that it's more out of curiosity and a desire to get under his skin than it is to actually have sex with him (although, I'm sure if he agreed she wouldn't say no). Her statement in Crusade implied that she hadn't been with anyone in awhile....so it doesn't sound like she's constantly searching out bed-buddies.
Still, based on what we SAW (not what was shot), her relationship with Arlos does seem suspicious. In some weird sort of way, I could see Vala genuinely having a relationship with him...she might even have cared for him. To have someone kind, who is so completely devoted to her, making her feel special and wanted? Does that sound like anyone else we know?? It's not unheard of for women to seek a sort of security in a doting older man. Maybe there was a point where she was out of the smuggling business, but then got restless and saw an opportunity in the bracelets and ran with it. 3. Why do you think the idea of sleeping with Vala is so "repulsive" to Daniel? Is it just because he doesn't want meaningless sex, or is it something else?
I think it's the first choice, but I also think it's just that Daniel doesn't find Thief-Vala attractive as a partner. That's of course not to say that he doesn't find Vala attractive or care for her. But notice that his snarkiness in season 10 often comes about when he sees her reverting back to her old ways: CoT, BG, Unending. He doesn't seem to find that side of her attractive. Hence, why his softest moments towards her in season 9 occur when he catches a glimpse of what's underneath all of that bravado.
4. At the beginning, when Vala leaves, what do you think Daniel is feeling? Relief? Or do you think he's going to miss her?
It's strange, like someone else said, Daniel's words bely his expressions. There are specific moments during the whole exchange where he seems like he's going to miss her. Take a look at the beginning of my recent video...does he seem relieved or thankful that she's gone? I don't think so. I think part of him liked her, even if it was just that he liked to fight with her. Also, it could be just because he was stuck to her for so long that maybe he's going to miss that constant buzzing in his ear. Does that make any sense?
Milena got the email am now re-reading the story so I have the order of events clear in my head. DJay thanks for the info, guess it wont be at an actual angus and robertson. Got one in my suburb and have never seen an sg1 or atlantis book. Will look into it
Well, I think that I am going to head off to bed. Keep up the chatter in my absence I leave you with one final question for the evening/morning...this is a hard one....
And here we are! Okay, the file size is a little large than my usual at this point. When I have more time in the next few days, I might try to make it smaller and more manageable. On the plus size, the bigger size means the quality is all the better
And with that, I bid you all goodnight! Enjoy
-Stef
Good video
Aspect ratio was a little weird (4/3 while source was 16/9) but easily fixed with mplayer -aspect 16/9
Congrats for 4000 posts
Nice one! i'll have to add that song to my Daniel/Vala playlist on my itunes.
yes i am THAT obsessed. It's about 75 songs long at the moment made up of songs from all the amazing vids i've seen and any with lyrics that remind me of my favourite couple. AND it's great to listen to while reading fanfic! yeah. sickly obsessed. In my defense I have a Sam/Jack one and John/Aeryn one as well. well I guess that's not a defense...more like...more proof of my insane devotion to not one but three 'ships. psychiatric help required probably
oh well. *bops to some more D/V tunes*
EDIT:
There's the list in spoilers if anyone is interested....
Spoiler:
Until The World The Afters
All I Really Want Alanis Morsette
Dirty Little Secrets All American Rejects
Promises Amanda Marshall
Everybody's Got A Story Amanda Marshall
Red Magic Marker Amanda Marshall
I Believe In You Amanda Marshall
A Little Bit Of Love Andreas Jonsson
Satellite Anna Nalick
Miss Halfway Anya Marina
Fall To Pieces Avril Lavigne
Nobody's Home Avril Lavigne
Halo Bethany Joy Lenz
I Want To Be Loved Bon Jovi
The Story Brandi Carlile
Every Time We Touch Cascada
In This Life Chantal Kreviazuk
I Want You To Want Me Cheap Trick
All These Lives Chris Daughtry
All That I Am Christine Evans
God Put a Smile Upon Your Face Coldplay
Accidentally in Love Counting Crows
Ain't That A Kick In the Head Dean Martin
Kissing You Des'ree
I'm No Angel Dido
Hungry Eyes Eric Carmen
She's So High Above Me Everclear
Kiss Me Fool Fefe Dobson
Supervixen Garbage
Why Do You Love Me? Garbage
Belief Gavin DeGraw
I Learned from You Hannah Montana
It's Only Love Heather Nova
The Reason Hoobastank
Come On Closer Jem
Love You I Do Jennifer Hudson
Because You Live Jesse McCartney
Have A Little Faith In Me Jewel
I Love The Way You Love Me John Michael Montgomery
Unlike Me Kate Havenvik
Low Kelly Clarkson
Nothin 'Bout Love Makes Sense LeAnn Rimes
Trying to Find My Way Lifehouse
The Dolphins Cry Live
Good Love Never Dies Liz Phair
Swedish Girl Lotus Child
***** Meredith Brooks
No Sleep 2Nite Molly McQueen
I Bruise Easily Natasha Bedingfield
Someone That Youre With Nickelback
Somewhere Out There Our Lady Peace
Nothing In This World Paris Hilton
Trouble Pink
Every You Every Me Placebo
Must Have Done Something Right Relient K
We Might Fall Ryan star
Broken Seether feat. Amy Lee
The Woman In Me Shania Twain
When You Kiss Me Shania Twain
I Shall Believe Sheryl Crow
It Is You (I Have Loved) Shrek Soundtrack
The Older I Get Skillet
Chasing Cars Snow Patrol
Everything Changes Staind
What I'm Trying to Say Stars
Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic Sting & The Police
Just Might Sugarland
Your Own Disaster Taking Back Sunday
Can't Get Away Third Eye Blind
I Need You Tim McGraw
You Shouldn't Kiss Me Like This Toby Keith
You'll Think Of Me Urban, Keith
Nobody Wins The Veronicas
4ever The Veronicas
You're A God Vertical Horizon
Here's my current playlist
Spoiler:
After Midnight Project: Take Me Home
After Midnight Project: Wilted
Apocalyptica: Quutamo
Coldplay: God Put a Smile Upon Your Face
Entwine: Closer (My Love)
Entwine: Everything For You
Entwine: Falling Apart
Entwine: Grace
Entwine: Until The End
Evanescence: My Immortal
HIM: Buried Alive By Love
Iced Earth: I Died For You
Kamelot: Love You To Death
Kotipelto: Beauty Has Come
Lacuna Coil: Distant Sun
Nightwish: Beauty of The Beast
Nightwish: Feel For You
Poets of The Fall: All The Way / 4U
Poets of The Fall: Carnival of Rust
Poets of The Fall: Don't Mess With Me
Poets of The Fall: Someone Special
Soil: She
Sonata Arctica: Paid in Full
Sonata Arctica: Tallulah
Stratovarius: Forever
To/Die/For: Live in You
To/Die/For: Immortal Love
To/Die/For: Under a Velvet Sky
Within Temptation: Memories
I might listen too much metal/rock
Vala: Found your glasses.
I've almost finished editing a video but the bad news is that sharing it before the end of September would get me in a lot of trouble because the song isn't officially released yet
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