Sam Carter /Jack O'Neill Ship Appreciation Thread 2.0

[Artie]

But are these books canon or not?

Pseudo-canon. Meaning TPTB can joss them anytime they like, but they're approved by MGM. So like the Star Trek novels are to Star Trek. At least that's my understanding!

[SamJackShipper93]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed Love Machine!

Re: the novels -- I'm a prereader for Heart's Desire, the SG-1 novel by Amy Griswold that's coming out next year, and while I'm sworn to secrecy about most of it I do have to say that I think most people on this thread would love it! It's set in the end of third season, and what's not to love about Jack and Sam being captured by pirates?

Whoo! Even with the not-so-hot reviews, bad plots and even worse characterization, I do enjoy the majority of Fandemonium's books. And this one sounds great!

Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation!

That might actually be one book that I will bother to read. After all of the mostly negative comments that I've heard about most of the books, it sounds like Heart's Desire is worth a try. I'll keep my eye on it for when it hits the bookstores. Hopefully, there will be a hint of ship, just like we've gotten on the show, but even if there isn't, I like the idea of Sam and Jack being captured together... that seems kind of shippy to me anyway

Hehe, Sam and Jack being captured together is probably my most favorite SG-1 cliche of all time!

But are these books canon or not?

Pseudo-canon. Meaning TPTB can joss them anytime they like, but they're approved by MGM. So like the Star Trek novels are to Star Trek. At least that's my understanding!

Right. There are two different meanings of canon. A.) That it follows the accepted storyline and doesn't contradict anything from the TV show. B.) That it's an accepted part of the Stargate Universe.

So in a sense, are the books canon? Yes and no.

Yes because they follow the show and aren't able to make up storylines that contradict anything in the series. But no because they aren't recognized by TPTB as part of the series.

[L.A. Doyle]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed Love Machine!

Re: the novels -- I'm a prereader for Heart's Desire, the SG-1 novel by Amy Griswold that's coming out next year, and while I'm sworn to secrecy about most of it I do have to say that I think most people on this thread would love it! It's set in the end of third season, and what's not to love about Jack and Sam being captured by pirates?

Oh, interesting! I have some of the books, but have never read them...

[Pol]

OT: Novels

Spoiler:

Didn't they have one author of an SG1 book who said once she had never even seen an episode of the show?

Oh yeah...Sam soooooooooo loves Jack.

[SamJackShipper93]

OT: Novels

Spoiler:

Didn't they have one author of an SG1 book who said once she had never even seen an episode of the show?

Oh yeah...Sam soooooooooo loves Jack.

Spoiler:

I've never heard that. In fact, I heard that it was a prerequisite that an author had to watch every episode of the series to write the novel.

[Akamaimom]

OT Fanfic books:

Spoiler:

Well I don't know about any of that, but I would love to be given the chance to write one. Wouldn't that be fun?

[IggyMing]

Hehe, Sam and Jack being captured together is probably my most favorite SG-1 cliche of all time!

Yup, it's a fan fiction classic scenario. How can something like that not be shippy?

OT: Novels

Spoiler:

Didn't they have one author of an SG1 book who said once she had never even seen an episode of the show?

Spoiler:

I heard something similar, but I believe that was pre-Fandemonium (i.e., the publisher that developed the books before Fandemonium took over). At least, that's what I heard.

[Pol]

OT Fanfic books:

Spoiler:

Well I don't know about any of that, but I would love to be given the chance to write one. Wouldn't that be fun?

Novels:

Spoiler:

I would love to write one and have asked my publisher to approach them.

With regard to the most recent book, my longtime friend Geonn, a published (and award-winning) author himself, offers a terrific commentary/review on the latest book. You can find it on his LiveJournal page (click for link).

Again, Geonn is a writer who's opinion I value and whose writing is really terrific. Evaluate the novel on your own if you'd like, but I think he offers an honest, forthright review.

You'll find the info on the author who's not seen the show in there.

manip by me.

[SamJackShipper93]

OT Fanfic books:

Spoiler:

Well I don't know about any of that, but I would love to be given the chance to write one. Wouldn't that be fun?

Novels:

Spoiler:

I would love to write one and have asked my publisher to approach them.

With regard to the most recent book, my longtime friend Geonn, a published (and award-winning) author himself, offers a terrific commentary/review on the latest book. You can find it on his LiveJournal page (click for link).

Again, Geonn is a writer who's opinion I value and whose writing is really terrific. Evaluate the novel on your own if you'd like, but I think he offers an honest, forthright review.

You'll find the info on the author who's not seen the show in there.

That would be so cool! I'd totally read those novels!

[hlndncr]

Spoiler:

I've never heard that. In fact, I heard that it was a prerequisite that an author had to watch every episode of the series to write the novel.

Novels:

Spoiler:

I would love to write one and have asked my publisher to approach them.

With regard to the most recent book, my longtime friend Geonn, a published (and award-winning) author himself, offers a terrific commentary/review on the latest book. You can find it on his LiveJournal page (click for link).

Again, Geonn is a writer who's opinion I value and whose writing is really terrific. Evaluate the novel on your own if you'd like, but I think he offers an honest, forthright review.

You'll find the info on the author who's not seen the show in there.

OT Novels:

Spoiler:

There is no way Savile (author of Power Behind the Throne) watched every episode of SG1. That book was atrociously inacurate and OoC. It read like some editor down the line tried to throw in a few references to the episodes in a very ineffective attempt to save it.

I'm reading Four Dragons now. It is such an improvement over the last one, I'm probably giving a little more credit than if I had read it first. When I finish the book I'll share my thoughts with you, especially about the ship. (Note: Don't get your hopes up.)

Pol: I believe it was your friend's review on Amazon that I read. It gave a very good catalog of inacuracies in Savile's book.

I have to disagree with him on his opinion of Hydra, which I thoroughly disliked and found confusing and poorly plotted, and Valhalla, which I considered decent. But the rest of his statements are right on.

[Akamaimom]

Novels:

Spoiler:

I would love to write one and have asked my publisher to approach them.

With regard to the most recent book, my longtime friend Geonn, a published (and award-winning) author himself, offers a terrific commentary/review on the latest book. You can find it on his LiveJournal page (click for link).

Again, Geonn is a writer who's opinion I value and whose writing is really terrific. Evaluate the novel on your own if you'd like, but I think he offers an honest, forthright review.

You'll find the info on the author who's not seen the show in there.

manip by me.

Spoiler:

Okay--I read his review. Wow. I wouldn't go near that book. That's really kind of distressing. Pol would do (and HAS done) SO much better!

[hlndncr]

Sam and Jack eating Jello together (age old blue/red debate), any guesses on what ep? (And notice Jack eats it with a fork. )

[L.A. Doyle]

Sam and Jack eating Jello together (age old blue/red debate), any guesses on what ep? (And notice Jack eats it with a fork. )

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/...PDVD_069-1.jpg

Proving Ground, when they're talking about the team they're training.

[hlndncr]

Proving Ground, when they're talking about the team they're training.

You win! Jack is very happy for you. (Isn't he cute? YES!)

[iiradned]

Sam and Jack eating Jello together (age old blue/red debate), any guesses on what ep? (And notice Jack eats it with a fork. )

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/...PDVD_069-1.jpg

Love Sam's look in that. Makes me think that she is deliberately baiting Jack.