Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[ChopinGal]

Coming and Going …

Well here she is once again
Back for a super Season Ten
The boys are here, Danny, Teal’c and Cam
And someone new (let’s hope she’s not a ham)

Where it all will go is still uncertain
“What do we do with Sam?” left the fans hurtin’
We hope the writers did learn their lesson
And with Sam’s character they stop a messin’

Sam’s looking good and feeling strong
At the head of SG-1 is where she belongs
Loyal fans know that Sam is legit
A certain macho male seems counterfeit

If they don’t restore Sam’s command
We hope they do lend the new guy a hand
Send him to school to learn how to lead
Right now he seems like he may be on speed

Sam really likes him as a kid brother
But can she trust him as she did another?
Her former CO with eyes so brown
Could make a joke but was not a clown

Jack was what a leader should be
Mature, resourceful and, yes, humility
Taking care of those in his charge
In Sam’s eyes, he always stood large

From him she learned how to pull her own weight
Each time the four of them went through the Gate
They’d fight and talk and walk and run
It was one for all and all for one

Those were the best eight years of Carter’s career
By year eight Jack stayed on the base and he let her steer
He taught her well and Sam passed the test
Showing that she, indeed, could lead the rest

AT was just getting settled into her new role
When a personal event put Sam Carter on hold
Instead of writing Sam as gone but not dismissed
TPTB took Season Nine and gave it a twist

The new guy was crowned as king of the show
Sam Carter in charge just had to go
Motherhood loomed and she had to wait
To return to the set, return to the Gate

When Amanda came back to play Sam
She may have felt like she had been on the lam
The season already moving into episodes 6 and 7
She had to jump in and take what was given

It was a good gig and she got back her groove
Sam Carter belonged and made the right moves
Yet something was missing and it didn’t seem right
That sense of command and a team that hung tight

Yes, it was a blending, of course not a Tok’ra
They were learning a new dance, the old one was over
The rhythm was off but the beat still went on
The fans were still hanging around, hoping for fun

New villains and characters came into our midst
The Priors and Orii and chubby Nerus
Season Nine sped on by and now almost gone
Some battles were lost, some battles were won

Sam Carter grew into a leader, a chief
She rose to the top if only so brief
Why can’t we see her as that once again
Now that we’re getting her back in S10?

[Mandysg1]

Hmm? Niether BB or MS used the word co-leaderdid they

[minigeek]

Hmm? Niether BB or MS used the word co-leaderdid they

No, they didn't. But then, Amanda didn't say co-leader either while she was hosting the Stargate: True Science, documentary. She said Carter was the leader of SG-1.

There's definitely an issue there. Small and good natured though it may be.

[SG1Poz]

Coming and Going …

Well here she is once again
Back for a super Season Ten
The boys are here, Danny, Teal’c and Cam
And someone new (let’s hope she’s not a ham)

Where it all will go is still uncertain
“What do we do with Sam?” left the fans hurtin’
We hope the writers did learn their lesson
And with Sam’s character they stop a messin’

Sam’s looking good and feeling strong
At the head of SG-1 is where she belongs
Loyal fans know that Sam is legit
A certain macho male seems counterfeit

If they don’t restore Sam’s command
We hope they do lend the guy a hand
Send him to school to learn how to lead
Right now he seems like he may be on speed

Sam really likes him as a kid brother
But can she trust him as she did another?
Her former CO with eyes so brown
Could make a joke but was not a clown

Jack was what a leader should be
Mature, resourceful and, yes, humility
Taking care of those in his charge
In Sam’s eyes, he always stood large

From him she learned how to pull her own weight
Each time the four of them went through the Gate
They’d fight and talk and walk and run
It was one for all and all for one

Those were the best eight years of Carter’s career
By year eight Jack stayed on the base and he let her steer
He taught her well and Sam passed the test
Showing that she, indeed, could lead the rest

She was just getting settled into her new role
When a personal event put Sam Carter on hold
Instead of writing Sam as gone but not dismissed
TPTB took Season Nine and gave it a twist

The new guy was crowned as king of the show
Sam Carter in charge just had to go
Motherhood loomed and she had to wait
To return to the set, return to the Gate

When Amanda came back to play Sam
She may have felt like she had been on the lam
The season already moving into episodes 6 and 7
She had to jump in and take what was given

It was a good gig and she got back her groove
Sam Carter belonged and made the right moves
Yet something was missing and it didn’t seem right
That sense of command and a team that hung tight

Yes, it was a blending, of course not a Tok’ra
They were learning a new dance, the old one was over
The rhythm was off but the beat still went on
The fans were still hanging around, hoping for fun

New villains and characters came into our midst
The Priors and Ori and chubby Nerus
Season Nine sped on by and now almost gone
Some battles were lost, some battles were won

Sam Carter grew into a leader, a chief
She rose to the top if only so brief
Why can’t we see her as that once again
Now that we’re getting her back in S10?

*That is fantastic!

[Mandysg1]

No, they didn't. But then, Amanda didn't say co-leader either while she was hosting the Stargate: True Science, documentary. She said Carter was the leader of SG-1.

There's definitely an issue there. Small and good natured though it may be.

Where did you see that? I never heard of it

[Historian]

I think i saw that it was Strix's birthday

HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!

[golfbooy]

Hmm? Niether BB or MS used the word co-leaderdid they

Yeah, just as I don't really expect to hear AT say less than adulatory things about Stargate and the people she works with (I'm in fact surprised she has said some of the things she has the past few months), I don't really expect to hear BB saying anything that marginalizes his place, contribution, or usefulness to Stargate. As it is, BB is very much tap dancing with those comments. Again, to me, they indicate that he himself is having a hard time justifying his own character's existence. Just like AT is trying to explain the lack of character interactions this season, BB and MS are trying to explain why Mitchell is around in the first place. They're doing this because these are the issues that people are having. Whatever anyone involved with the show says to the contrary, they're all interested enough to come online and find out what us wackos are saying. I'm not saying that anything we say or do influences anything. But I am saying that the people who make Stargate happen are well aware of the big issues that exist for fans. That is part of their job.

[ChopinGal]

Yes, it's really me, Sam Carter, and I'm stopping by to wish one of my favorite authors a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11...Gal/SamCap.jpg

Nobody does it better ... Strix you have the touch
Your Samfic is so right on and you really give so much

Every angsty moment spent
Under rubble or in a collapsed tent
You've taken me in such directions
And dumped me in such strange intersections

How do you love me? Let me count the ways ...
I have been shot and beaten up
In a wheelchair, post-op, and black op
Crushed beneath tons of concrete
While Janet held my hand, sweet so sweet

Equal opportunity Strix
Always providing the perfect mix
Humor, angst, whumpage and romance
Whether it's Jack or Janet ... come on, let's dance

What would I do without you?!
Keep it fair and keep it true ...
Even though I'm black and blue!

[Deejay435]

I know I could certainly use a lot more of Amanda's positivism in my life these days. I wish I could look on things with more of that attitude.

I also think it's refreshing that she's so able to talk about her insecurities. Even if from the outside, we think she'd had no reason to feel insecure, she did, and had the courage to be open about it. Go her!

Thanks for sharing those interviews with us, it was interesting trying to 'read between the lines'. I was especially interested in Ben's, because all the behind the scenes stuff, and interviews I've read and seen during the FS years, it seemed he had a lot of say in the direction of his character. I don't believe that's been true here. He said in an interview before the season started that he was going to just do what he was told. I'm almost sorry he hadn't more say, it might not have turned out such a mess.

And Whee! Olympics!

Spoiler:

Jeffery Buttle won bronze, and Matt Savoie made top ten, I am content!

I love Figure Skating.

[deepspace]

Coming and Going …

Well here she is once again
Back for a super Season Ten
The boys are here, Danny, Teal’c and Cam
And someone new (let’s hope she’s not a ham)

Where it all will go is still uncertain
“What do we do with Sam?” left the fans hurtin’
We hope the writers did learn their lesson
And with Sam’s character they stop a messin’

Sam’s looking good and feeling strong
At the head of SG-1 is where she belongs
Loyal fans know that Sam is legit
A certain macho male seems counterfeit

If they don’t restore Sam’s command
We hope they do lend the new guy a hand
Send him to school to learn how to lead
Right now he seems like he may be on speed

Sam really likes him as a kid brother
But can she trust him as she did another?
Her former CO with eyes so brown
Could make a joke but was not a clown

Jack was what a leader should be
Mature, resourceful and, yes, humility
Taking care of those in his charge
In Sam’s eyes, he always stood large

From him she learned how to pull her own weight
Each time the four of them went through the Gate
They’d fight and talk and walk and run
It was one for all and all for one

Those were the best eight years of Carter’s career
By year eight Jack stayed on the base and he let her steer
He taught her well and Sam passed the test
Showing that she, indeed, could lead the rest

AT was just getting settled into her new role
When a personal event put Sam Carter on hold
Instead of writing Sam as gone but not dismissed
TPTB took Season Nine and gave it a twist

The new guy was crowned as king of the show
Sam Carter in charge just had to go
Motherhood loomed and she had to wait
To return to the set, return to the Gate

When Amanda came back to play Sam
She may have felt like she had been on the lam
The season already moving into episodes 6 and 7
She had to jump in and take what was given

It was a good gig and she got back her groove
Sam Carter belonged and made the right moves
Yet something was missing and it didn’t seem right
That sense of command and a team that hung tight

Yes, it was a blending, of course not a Tok’ra
They were learning a new dance, the old one was over
The rhythm was off but the beat still went on
The fans were still hanging around, hoping for fun

New villains and characters came into our midst
The Priors and Orii and chubby Nerus
Season Nine sped on by and now almost gone
Some battles were lost, some battles were won

Sam Carter grew into a leader, a chief
She rose to the top if only so brief
Why can’t we see her as that once again
Now that we’re getting her back in S10?

Yay Jester! *applaus*
Wonderful

[Mandysg1]

Happy Birthday Strix
Here's a little something for you

Sorry that's as far as he would go, even with Jack's prompting

[deepspace]

Thanks NC for that transcript. I agree with MajorSal...funny how the only interpersonal bit for her this entire past year was when she was playing

Spoiler:

a figment of someone else's imagination and not Carter.

That's...sad. She deserves more than that. She can handle the meaty content fcol.

And whereas I'm thrilled to get analytical Sam back, I strongly have to wonder why this is an issue. People can are are more than one thing at a time. Sam can be a scientist, and a soldier, and a friend, and a mother and have a personal life all at the same time. The idea that they're focusing almost solely on the "analytical" side of Sam is disturbing. This foists her exactly in the position her dad didn't want her in. "You can still have everything you want," he encouraged...and while I'm confident he meant that she could have Jack and a career, I think it extended beyond the personal life thing. I think it meant that she deserved more for herself and her life than to be all about work all the time.

Do you get that PTB? It's called being multi-faceted. It's called character development. Something they've pretty much ignored this year for pretty much everyone, much to the show's detriment.

I totally get your points Über. The great thing about Sam is that she has been portrayed as such a multifaceted character. You know, not just the soldier, or just the scientist etc... Even in later seasons we had them exploring Sam's personal side, her girly side, and that was fun in its own way too. So why is it that we as viewers are nolonger considered intelligent enough to be able to cope with a character who is all these things at once?

[Skydiver]

i do think we have to consider that this IS the official magazine and as such, i fully expect any and all interviews to be nothing but positive. i fully expect the questions asked and the answers given to be total promotion for the show.

a) the folks that write for the magazine no doubt want to keep thier jobs
b) the actors know what side thier bread is buttered on. they aint' stupid and ya don't bite the hand that feeds ya
c) the overall theme of the show now is 'all is good and well and fine and hunky dorey and please don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain'

[deepspace]

Happy birthday Strix
I hope you have a great day!

[Myrth]

The answer to that is quite clear if you look at the events surrounding and determining the change...

I totally get your points Über. The great thing about Sam is that she has been portrayed as such a multifaceted character. You know, not just the soldier, or just the scientist etc... Even in later seasons we had them exploring Sam's personal side, her girly side, and that was fun in its own way too. So why is it that we as viewers are nolonger considered intelligent enough to be able to cope with a character who is all these things at once?