Do you think Ra will have human guards like the movie or Jaffa?
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Originally posted by system lord nuDo you think Ra will have human guards like the movie or Jaffa?
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Yah. There will be plotholes between SG-1 & Movie.
Ra should have 95% Human Warriors in this past. If he did, then there would be more continuity between the SG-1 and Movie.
Most of us just assumed that he had a few Jaffa (in the movie) but prefered to keep Human warriors, so he can jump into another body if an assassination took place (b/c he is the Supreme System Lord).
But the presence of Jaffa Guards in the past does not make much sense. The history of Jaffa, in my opinion is this.
1. Jaffa are created. They are given special status in society and have great value. They are DemiGods. (Should be Ra's Time)
2. Usefulness in Blending is seen. Jaffa are created in Mass Numbers as they could compose an entire army instead of just being the commanders of a human army. Value decreases.
3. Jaffa are everywhere. They have little value. (Current Time)
They could have shown a few Jaffa, like an Anubis Jaffa Guard. And then rest, Human Warriors. That would have been extremely awesome, because they could have shown other humans bowing down to the DemiGod. And then clearly shown the status of Jaffa change through 10,000 years.
However, they probably do not. It seems that Ra from the past seems just like Apophis from the present. Full with Jaffa Guards.
Its depressing b/c we dont even get to see a change in Jaffa Guard outfits. They DEFINITELY did not have the same armor as before... *sigh*
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Originally posted by CalictoYah. There will be plotholes between SG-1 & Movie.
Ra should have 95% Human Warriors in this past. If he did, then there would be more continuity between the SG-1 and Movie.
Most of us just assumed that he had a few Jaffa (in the movie) but prefered to keep Human warriors, so he can jump into another body if an assassination took place (b/c he is the Supreme System Lord).
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Is it not possible that the warriors they fought on Abydos were Lesser-Goa'uld? There's no external way to tell, but there strength and flanged voice could have been clues. Maybe Ra was such a powerful system lord by then that he used other Goa'uld as his first primes instead of Jaffa?
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Originally posted by Erik BloodaxeNo, because that's not the reason Ra has mostly human warriors in the movie; it seems to be because he no longer has a queen, and thus no prim'tah to put into a Jaffa, and so the humans are the only ones able to live long enough to serve as his warriors on Abydos.
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You all know they'rwe fgoing to complete screw up contiunity with the movie and He'll proeprly have Jaffa. We know from threashold he used Jaffa. We also know from Rules of Engagemnt that Gao'uld falling on hard times which leads me to beleive the leading fanon theory. At the time of the movie Ra was getting his ass kicked by the other system lords who wanted the Supreme SL spot. All his kick ass Jaffa were fighting battles elsewhere and Ra was going to a peaceful planet so he only brough humans.
As to 'were they lesser goa'uld?' the answer is no, They didn't flash their eyes their voices WEREN'T flanged and even if they didn't eye flash and flange as a sign of submission to their overlord. When Ra HD his man devoce they guys eye didn't glow in dead like every other time we've seen a Tok'Ra/Gou'ald die.sigpic
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Originally posted by Erik BloodaxeNo, because that's not the reason Ra has mostly human warriors in the movie; it seems to be because he no longer has a queen, and thus no prim'tah to put into a Jaffa, and so the humans are the only ones able to live long enough to serve as his warriors on Abydos.
-Bloodaxe
Also, he would definitely not just go with Humans to even a bad planet. If you're that valuable (the strongest Goa'uld at that point), you're going to carry the absolute BEST with you. Unless, you use humans to quickly jump hosts.
The theory with them being Goa'uld seemed plausible. But CrazedWraith proved it incorrect.
Maybe they have skin protection around the pouch area, like a piece of invisible cloth that hides the pouch!
I really dont mind him having humans as guards, but the show is going to show him with jaffa guards that look the same as present. Atleast they could have changed costumes.
5000 yrs. ago: Ra w. Jaffa Guards
8 yrs. ago: Ra w. Human Guards
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Originally posted by IMForemanIs it not possible that the warriors they fought on Abydos were Lesser-Goa'uld? There's no external way to tell, but there strength and flanged voice could have been clues. Maybe Ra was such a powerful system lord by then that he used other Goa'uld as his first primes instead of Jaffa?
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I totally totallly totally agree... That's the best idea yet!!! He was so darn powerful he didn't use Jaffa as Jaffa but Goa'uld as his Jaffa... That way he would have not just Goa'uld playing ashrak but also Goa'uld playing soldier... Talk about super soldiers aye? Thus the Goa'ulds that were being warriors for him would have the deep voices and all that and also those "humans" did as well... At least his first prime did from time to time... hehe...
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Originally posted by CrazedwraithAs to 'were they lesser goa'uld?' the answer is no, They didn't flash their eyes their voices WEREN'T flanged and even if they didn't eye flash and flange as a sign of submission to their overlord. When Ra HD his man devoce they guys eye didn't glow in dead like every other time we've seen a Tok'Ra/Gou'ald die.
Originally posted by CalictoIn my honest opinion, I think that's a poor reason. If you're trying to say that he had no Jaffa with him because he ran out of them, then why was he Supreme System Lord. Apophis could have arrived and literally ravaged him easily if he didnt have a single Jaffa with him.
And besides, he might not necessarily have automatically lost to Apophis if he had absolutely no Jaffa; Jaffa aren't always much better fighters by humans. SG-1 gives evidence of that, on a weekly (if not daily) basis. Jaffa's perk are just that they heal easier.
The theory with them being Goa'uld seemed plausible. But CrazedWraith proved it incorrect.
Maybe they have skin protection around the pouch area, like a piece of invisible cloth that hides the pouch!
I really dont mind him having humans as guards, but the show is going to show him with jaffa guards that look the same as present. Atleast they could have changed costumes.
-Bloodaxe
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