Anti-S9 thread. For complaints and misgivings ONLY.

[ShadowMaat]

IMO, the problem isn't with the cast or casting changes. Actors leaving the show won't help, bringing actors in won't help... if you ask me, the problem is that the WRITERS don't have what it takes, and if that's the case, then none of the rest of it matters because the stories will be crap.

My opinion.

[aschen]

But for how long? If the ratings for Season 9 plummet because the lack complete of RDA, and the even further watering down of the cast (relying on only 3 main members to carry it or, worse, inventing new characters and stumbling to develop them over one season) then this will affect Atlantis in a bad way.

People watching Stargate will turn off, and won't come back at the end of the hour to watch Atlantis. Season 9 could kill Atlantis, and that's a frightful idea because Atlantis is so cool!

BYE

Huh? I'm saying end it with this season and keep Atlantis.

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The bang ended after season 8.

Unless of course you are including the banging Jack and Sam will be doing next season....

That was meant to be a joke, but it probably will happen.

I could really do without SG-1, or SGA for that matter, turning into a perpetual episode of "Days of Our Lives." Thanks anyway!

[CoffeeGirl]

Hot off the presses! Here's the summary for what's gonna happen in S9!

And the really scary part: it's not all too unlikely.

[Jillybiehn]

Hot off the presses! Here's the summary for what's gonna happen in S9! *snip*

I'd copyright that Maat, if TPTB do use it they'll owe you big time.

Started out amused, reading, and then began to think, "Hey, this could work!" Especially the big time whumping of Pete. LOL

When it comes right down to it, can they DO a season nine without making it look--sorry Maat--as pathetic as that? I really don't think so. But a movie gives us SG-1 WITH RDA; since the time commitment for a film is so different from a tv show, how could he say no?

Just my $0.02

[ShadowMaat]

Hey, it's SUPPOSED to look pathetic! And IMO no, they can't make another season without making it look even MORE contrived and pompous and all surface no substance, let's ramp up the SEX and screw the storyline BAD. *sigh* But... some people will be happy to watch that because it's Stargate and while I can't even stomach the thought... I hope it makes them happy. I hope they think it's worth it. Because I sure don't.

[Jillybiehn]

But... some people will be happy to watch that because it's Stargate

I WILL watch because it's Stargate, and as much as I hate the thought of contrived storylines myself, I hate the thought of being without MS on a weekly basis even more. Seriously, though, you'd hope that if they INSIST on doing a ninth season, it would be the VERY LAST. Resolve all loose ends and then MOVE ON.

[ShadowMaat]

I've said it before, I'll say it again, they've had every opportunity to "wrap up" storylines since S6 started. They haven't. Unless you count what happened to Abydos as a resolution. Actually, S5 would have worked for me as a finale. S6 I probably could have lived with. Now, it's just getting sad, IMO. And they aren't resolving anything, just mucking the waters. The storylines people REALLY care about will never be resolved. Never.

[Jillybiehn]

The storylines people REALLY care about will never be resolved. Never.

Which ones would those be? (Not trying to be antagonistic, just thought it was an interesting topic. )

[Ugly Pig]

What if RDA left, mostly or entirely?

'Mostly', I can learn to live with. 'Entirely', never.

What if they added a new regular cast member to SG-1, or to command the S.G.C.? What if two regulars left and two replacements came on?

Nope. Nuh-huh. No way. I don't ever want to see that happen. I don't want "replacement characters" who are intended to fill the void of people who I've been getting to know for the past eight years.

If the setting and essential formula stays the same, would you be happy to watch the show keep going for another decade and evolve into an entirely new cast, new SG-1?

No. I would, however, be happy to watch a spin-off with the same setting and essential formula with entirely new people. Just as long as no-one tries to pass it off as SG-1.

SG-1, meanwhile, could live on in movies, direct-to-videos, miniseries or whatever TPTB can come up with.

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For me...

Little or no RDA = no show

[ShadowMaat]

Which ones would those be? (Not trying to be antagonistic, just thought it was an interesting topic. )

Jonas, Aris Boch, the Reetou/Charlie, the Foothold aliens, the Furlings, Cassie's story, What happened to Osiris/Sarah, the Tollan, Nick Ballard/Giant Aliens, Nyan, Aschen/Ambassador Joe... To name just a few.

[sueKay]

For me, season eight has been a big disappointment.

Seasons one to six were IMHO great.

The team dynamic was there.
The ship was there for those who wanted to see it
The ship was less noticeable for those who didn't want to see it
Teal'c and Sam were Teal'c and Sam
Daniel was Daniel
Daniel and Jack were friends
Jack was out in the field where he belongs
Sam was a team member - not 'the girl'

Need I go on.

Now, Stargate's more like 'days of our lives'

I'm a supporter of ship, but I don't want every episode to be about who loves who every week. I want action, sci fi, adventure!


Last but not least. TPTB want Jack to 'fade out'. He should either go out with a bang (I don't want him to die btw) or not leave.

Season nine should have as much Jack as season eight, perhaps more. Or none whatsoever.

*looks at length of post*

I'll stop ranting now. Sorry!

[Jillybiehn]

Jonas, Aris Boch, the Reetou/Charlie, the Foothold aliens, the Furlings, Cassie's story, What happened to Osiris/Sarah, the Tollan, Nick Ballard/Giant Aliens, Nyan, Aschen/Ambassador Joe... To name just a few.

Yeah, the ONLY reasons I'd want S9 is to get a resolution on Sarah, and the Tollans survived, and Cassie...the others would be nice too but those are my big 3 pet peeves for S8. (The Tollans, further, actually...but I think that's another thread. )

[Lord Zedd]

Hot off the presses! Here's the summary for what's gonna happen in S9!

Sam is away for the first part of the season- on her honeymoon with Pete. Jack has become increasingly nasty and short-tempered to the point where it's affecting his work. A decision is made to reassign him someplace where he's less likely to cause major damage: the Alpha Site. A recent attack there has left them without a commander. Seems like the perfect opportunity. Jack jumps for it.

A Bureocratic Jerk is brought in as a replacement for Jack. The BJ restructures Stargate Command, starting with some of the teams. Specifically SG-1. With Sam away and Jack not around to protect them, Daniel and Teal'c get reassigned to other teams (and you thought having RDA gone would mean more "team together" time!). We get glimpses of Daniel's and Teal'c's teams. Daniel is doing well with leading his own archaeologic team, and Teal'c is doing well with his team, too. But of course, it just isn't the same.

Sam comes back and is a bit bewildered by the changes... and by the news that she's now in charge of s spankin' new SG-1. All her protests and attempts to regroup her old team are denied by the BJ. Sam grudgingly leads her new team on missions and we just start getting used to these new guys when a Horrible Accident occurs, killing half the team. If Daniel and Teal'c hadn't shown up to help out, things might have been much worse. Under building pressure from the Upper Levels, BJ allows Sam, Daniel and Teal'c to reunite as a team. But it still isn't the same as it once was, and Daniel and Teal'c both realise that having their own teams wasn't such a horrible thing, but they'd never say anything to Sam, since it seems important for her to maintain the past. And, ya know, the Glory Days WERE kinda fun...

Meanwhile, between incresing stress at work and building pressure from home, where Pete is pushing for them to start having children, Sam decides to visit Jack for advice. He's initially very cold and nasty, but then she breaks down in his arms. They have sex, which we get to see, because TPTB have no scruples left.

Sam starts visiting Jack frequently for "advice" and finding excuses to see him. This happens OFF screen, since TPTB may have no scruples, but they're also sadistic and only have four Jack eps to work with and want to squander his last ep in another way.

Daniel and Teal'c have a pretty good idea what's going on, but after initial attempts to discuss it are met with hostility, they give up and keep their mouths shut.

And now, for an interlude... Let's check out Danny's love life. Turns out he and Sarah have hooked up again. She's a little, um, messed up after her experiences, but Daniel is used to dealing with crazy, and the sex is good, so that's all that counts.

Teal'c still has his Amazon Babe (doesn't he?) or some other random alien hottie so they can make hot monkey love and have lots of broody looks and monosyllables which we're supposed to take as meaning they're in love.

Meanwhile, Pete knows what's going on with Sam and Jack, but because he's such a pathetic, stupid sod who's depsertely in love with Sam, until one day he just up and leaves, telling her it finally became too much and he needs time for himself to think.

Sam, for her part, actually manages to feel guilty for ripping Pete's guts out. In fact, she begins to realize she really does love the idiot, but it's too late now and she can find no trace of where he went.

BJ has also twigged to what's going on with Sam and Jack and even though the two of them have basically called it quits, he's bound and determined to stir up a huge controversy over it.

Daniel and Teal'c, working with their buddies from their "other" teams, uncover some startling evidence: BJ has been working for The Trust all along. And ya know how the Alpha Site suffered that crippling loss at the beginning of the season and then the disaster with Sam's team? And various other accidents which will be mentioned in passing? Turns out they all tie in to a Terrible New Threat... and to The Trust. But who cares about that?? Let's get back to the angst and the sex!

BJ escapes, but with Sam's help, Daniel, Teal'c and their cronies uncover The Trust's secret base... where they discover Pete being held hostage. Turns out his leaving Sam wasn't entirely his choice. He's been implanted with one of those mind probes and The Trust has been draining him for info. 'Cause, y'know, pillow talk about work can be dangerous. And then there's the whole Sam/Jack thing. Ya wanna know how BJ knew about it? He got it from poor Pete, who apologizes to Sam, saying he still loves her... and then he falls into a coma. Poor thing.

Finale will be a huge battle with The Trust and their Scary New Allies vs. Everyone Else. Jack actually gets to act like Jack again, and everyone gets a piece of the action, but things are very decidedly different, now, and there's still the fact that Sam's and Jack's relationship has been uncovered. That'll come back to bite them in the ass, too. But that's for next season.

It sounds really great.Did you made it up or is it going to be for real?If you made it up you should become a new writer by SG.1