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    Im really not happy with using asgard generators, but ill concede on the centralised power source, scrap that. IF we use asgard generators for earth then what was the point developing our own highly advanced and capable naquadah reactor's? I did want to reduce our reliance on the Asgard, not increase it, that why most of our ships have our own retroengineered shields and hyperdrives. So we can develop at a pace that suits us, which is much faster than the asgard would like, and given what we have done on the backs of thier technology so far, i think they would be reluctent to continue down that road much further because we could be a threat to them some day. Itd only take a rouge political commander and a ship with thier technology and we could be a threat on some level, even if were allys. The construction facilities may be taken away once we rebuild and get set back up and then it woudl be down to us manipulating our beaming technology to do the same functions..heck we could just say we manipulated it ourselves. I just think the asgard giving us a little jump start would make our rebirth from the brink of total destruction a little more credible..
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      Fine with me using the naquadah generaters. wasn't the Mark 6 generater some super power producer or was it another mark?
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        Mark VIII, its what powers the Gaia, its got 60% of a ZPM's output and is probley the most advanced naquadah reactor there has ever been, including those that anubis built for his superweapon thingy. Its the size of one of atlantis's piers which is about 500m by 200m...so deadalus size. Its huge and theres only ever been 3 built. The Prototype which was on Earth, one that powers New london and the one on Gaia.
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          Originally posted by immhotep View Post
          Possbily but we have the Atlantis class for that role..so thats a maybe, the atlantis is a carrier for trop dropships.. so
          Oh, then you probably wouldn't like the Maat Mons. It's meant to deliver troops as well as armored vehicles to a planets surface providing cover as they disembark.

          All in all I think it is a good idea but your atlantis sounds like it could take the place of several maat mons, at least in the troop carrying area. If you want to look at it I think I posted it in the OSD thread. the model is in rough stages and not uploaded yet.

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            Originally posted by immhotep View Post
            Mark VIII, its what powers the Gaia, its got 60% of a ZPM's output and is probley the most advanced naquadah reactor there has ever been, including those that anubis built for his superweapon thingy. Its the size of one of atlantis's piers which is about 500m by 200m...so deadalus size. Its huge and theres only ever been 3 built. The Prototype which was on Earth, one that powers New london and the one on Gaia.
            Mate i don't like to argue but...you do realise how powerful a Z.P.M is right? there's no way a Naquadah reactor could pump out 60% of a Z.P.M that's an insane amount of power and naquadah reactors have there limitations...i know you like the idea of such a powerful powersource but it's too much and it would make the ship too powerful in my opinion 10% (which may not seem like much) would be more than adequet easily more powerful than other generators we have and our enemies have...

            Originally posted by Daryl Froggy View Post
            Oh, then you probably wouldn't like the Maat Mons. It's meant to deliver troops as well as armored vehicles to a planets surface providing cover as they disembark.

            All in all I think it is a good idea but your atlantis sounds like it could take the place of several maat mons, at least in the troop carrying area. If you want to look at it I think I posted it in the OSD thread. the model is in rough stages and not uploaded yet.
            I was thing myself of trying to enter a large ship designed to carry hundreds of troups but the idea is in my opinion too similar to the Atlantis class immohtep made...
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              So this Atlantis can carry atrillary similar to tanks and such right?

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                Originally posted by Daryl Froggy View Post
                So this Atlantis can carry atrillary similar to tanks and such right?
                erm...the drop ships it carries probably could, post it you might as well we can give our verdict after we've seen it
                Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

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                  Alright, the model is only a rough shape right now. But the spec sheet has been around for a month or two.

                  DSC-314 Maat Mons -class

                  Type: Deep Space Infantry/Carrier support ship

                  Technology Base: Earth/Asgard/Goa’uld

                  Dimensions

                  -Width: 66 2/3m
                  -Length: 112m
                  -Height: 22 1/3m

                  Crew

                  Main: 100

                  Weapons

                  10x gauss guns

                  25x missile launchers

                  Support Craft

                  4x Cerberus tanks

                  Power plant(s)

                  2x Mk. III naquadah generators

                  Engines

                  4x Main engines

                  6x Hyperspace Flash Drives

                  Anti gravity wave generators

                  Defenses

                  Hull: Titanium/trinium Alloy with interwoven ceramic composites (energy/heat dispersion)

                  Asgard designed shields

                  Other Technologies

                  Asgard sensor tech

                  Asgard Beaming tech

                  Experimental Goa’uld cloaking device

                  Ships of the line

                  Maat Mons

                  (Five more under construction with others being debated)

                  History

                  The Maat Mons was built with multiple roles in mind since it was unclear where the majority of the battles would be fought. Due to its ability as a multi-role space craft it was shunted into a carrier escort role until a mission requiring it’s unique abilities comes up.

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                    Originally posted by Daryl Froggy View Post
                    So this Atlantis can carry atrillary similar to tanks and such right?
                    Could just equip the dropships with a transporter thing and have them beam up a tank before they leave like the darts do with people.

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                      Maya has just crashed on me.

                      And it seemed like this stupid fall did not save my model,

                      Slapped my self round the fast a couple of time, here the latest through that I got.

                      Gonna be out all day tomorrow. So will not be any updates until wednesday at earliest. Sorry guys.

                      So if you want to just vote for the dreadnought class now I will not mind. It shame to hold the hold fleet back, just for me.

                      And I had a nice weapon fire two

                      through I these were my model for earlier today. Like 9:00 clock today.










                      The earliest I will probably be able to put series amount of work into this saturday, exams, thursday and friday, several peices of work that I need to get on an work, on



                      Here a little stop frame animation that I done over the week end through. That I promise I show,

                      http://www.david-knowles.co.uk/Starg...PurpleMan3.mpg


                      Last edited by knowles2; 29 January 2007, 10:50 PM.

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                        I don't really mind waiting. Want to see the animation.

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                          I don't mind waiting either. But I think we should start nominating special designs to pass the time. *twittles thumbs and whistles*
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                            Swarm cruiser :

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                              Originally posted by Extrenix View Post
                              Swarm cruiser :

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                              Looks pretty good. Though I don't think you'll ever beat the swarm battleship. I love that thing..

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                                Mate i don't like to argue but...you do realise how powerful a Z.P.M is right? there's no way a Naquadah reactor could pump out 60% of a Z.P.M that's an insane amount of power and naquadah reactors have there limitations...i know you like the idea of such a powerful powersource but it's too much and it would make the ship too powerful in my opinion 10% (which may not seem like much) would be more than adequet easily more powerful than other generators we have and our enemies have...
                                No i dont know how much a ZPM produces, but your right its alot. A Ion Generator from the Asgard can produce approxemately the same amount of Energy as a ZPM. Becuase an Asgard journey to pegasus is the same as our ships with a ZPM. Now a NIG produced 3 trillion watts of electricity, well it would have if they had let the video oncintues, it got to "threee trillion of your Earth..." so we can assume thats a rouge approsemation. Now we dont have an exactl figure for naquadah generators but considering the first one is a Fusion reactor which can pump out more energy than any plant on Earth then i would be somewhere in the 1-10 TerraWatt range, IMO.
                                So if we say a conventional mark I naquadah reactor can pump out 10 Terrawatts of energy. Then its later marks, in this case the mark 8. Let me give breif to the mark 8, its the most powerful energy source that has been created since asgard generators, it has 8 massive fusion cores, which are each 10000x the size of our mark 1 naqudah reactors in both physical size and what they generate. Plus our technology is so advanced in this field that we have ways of bosoting the extracted energy from naquadah. The Mark 8 can produce hundreds of pettrawatts as just part of its daily routine, the beam cannons are 1 petrawatt in "calibre" so that generator is capable of doing something that massive, and 60% of a ZPM is about 1200petrawatts...it might be able to crate that much energy...i might knock it down to 30%. But it can produce increadible amounts of energy, enough to run a half ancient and half asgard city in the pegasus galaxy. But we also had a ZPM in the city as backup or secondary power...
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