Fanfic 'rules'

[Skydiver]

read the TOS. they do not allow adult fic.

they used to, but changed the rules a few years ago

[*subrosa*]

well... if that's the case, then at least there's no one actually making sure that they live up to the new rules... not that I'm complaining, really...

[Skydiver]

i think they depend on people reporting TOS violations

[*subrosa*]

yeah, and why would people actually do that, right?

[Alipeeps]

fanfiction.net not allowing adult stuff? wow, then I have read a LOT of rule breaking fanfic's there O_O;; for as far as I know, they are allowed... jumperbay does not approve that kind of stuff, Wraithbait does, but those two are both moderated and Fanfiction.net isn't for as far as I know ^_^
But anyway, it's not really like they're... doing anything... they're just two men having a relationship and trying to fit that in to their daily life on Atlantis.
So if that's not a problem, I think I'll post it here ^_^

Ffnet don't allow adult fic - but they also don't moderate (at all, in my experience) and even if you report a TOS violation, nothing is done. So really, what is allowed and isn't is pretty much irrelevant as the rules aren't enforced.

[*subrosa*]

yeah well... maybe we shouldn't discuss this any further what if someone from FF.net comes to visit (yeah, might be highly unlikely) and they find us discussing their lack in enforcing the rules... what if they start thinking: darn, maybe we SHOULD start living up to our own rules and then all the brilliant fanfics are removed O_O;; *nightmare*

[Skydiver]

i doubt they care.

honestly, these are the folks that implemented a policy that messed up thousands and thousands of fic, didn't bother to tell anyone, and never bothererd to acknowledge the fact later.

my cynical pov, they don't care about anything but racking up the ad revenues as they treat the authors' work with extreme disrespect and then pat themselves on the back for 'aren't we great? we give people a place to post'

/rant off

I had someone plagarize one of my fic, I had to report it about a half dozen times before the stolen fic was taken down. I think the polite way to put it is that their customer service bites

[*subrosa*]

yea okay... that part might be better off when it's improved... but to be honest... I'm a bit of an NC-17/R-rated fanfic fan actually... and I don't really understand why fanfics of that nature are so forbidden... I mean, if you just make warnings and/or build in something to prevent the younger ones among us from reading it, then there's nothing wrong with a bit of adult stuff right? I mean, if it's really all that bad, then they should take down all the weird porn sites on the internet as well...

[Skydiver]

because, for some sites, it effects your advertisors. Have adult fic on the site and some advertisors won't support you

in other cases, a webmaster - unless s/he owns their own server - has to follow the rules of whatever company owns their server, and they can make whatever content rules they want.

porn or adult stuff also brings with it a bunch of legal time bombs. agree with it or not, hosting adult stuff can make YOU liable when Johnny lies about his age, joins your site and then mommy finds out and her lawyers call you to blame you for johnny getting 'corrupted'

there is also flirting with the issue of kiddie porn and pedophilia...and if you happen to host a fic, the harry potter fandom has a LOT of issue with this, such as Snape and Harry or Snape and Hermoine having sex, that's kiddie porn and is illegal in many countries.

so the easy way to avoid that is just to say 'no porn at all' and block it all rather than try to make endless judgement calls, any of which can bite you in the butt

On a site like ff.net, where they do little to no to control their content, it's easier to make rules, expect people to follow them, and then have them on file for if someone complains. And ff.net would be fine if its admin seemed to care. But, especially over the past few years, they don't seem to care about anything. inquiries go unanswered, they make unilateral alterations without even informing people and they seem to do little to no policing.

[Alipeeps]

i doubt they care.

honestly, these are the folks that implemented a policy that messed up thousands and thousands of fic, didn't bother to tell anyone, and never bothererd to acknowledge the fact later.

my cynical pov, they don't care about anything but racking up the ad revenues as they treat the authors' work with extreme disrespect and then pat themselves on the back for 'aren't we great? we give people a place to post'

/rant off

I had someone plagarize one of my fic, I had to report it about a half dozen times before the stolen fic was taken down. I think the polite way to put it is that their customer service bites

"We give people a place to post" is literally all ffnet does. I've never had any kind of even acknowledgement, let alone response or action taken to any issues I've raised (both technical issues and content/rule violation issues). Their support/help system is a joke and may as well not exist cos logging anything is utterly pointless. And in the past when the site has crashed it has at times been down for days before anyone in a position to do anything about it seems to have even noticed. They really don't "run" that site at all, they just created it and then left it be. Maybe tweak it a bit now and then at their whim and that's about it.

[*subrosa*]

yeah well... even so, it's one of the more popular sites out there for fanfiction... in any possible sense of the word 'fanfiction' because PWP and such doesn't really count as ff for me...

[Offworlder]

quick question. can we post the fanfic as .txt attachments instead of writing it on the post itself

[Skydiver]

we would prefer that you didn't.

OUr preference is that you use our uploader...now yes, i know it's been down for 2 years now. It's on darren's to do list.

The preferred way for you to post fic here is to post it to an archive, like heliopolis, sam and jack, fanfiction.net and then post a link here to advertise it

we have no way to preserve posts here. If the forum crashes, your stuff is gone. we also have no way to search for it or to archive it in any way

the only reason i haven't deleted the fic of those that are posting it here is because we don't have the archive up and running. I started to allow it as a stopgap measure but the forum really isn't an archive

[Offworlder]

fair enough

[aretood2]

we would prefer that you didn't.

OUr preference is that you use our uploader...now yes, i know it's been down for 2 years now. It's on darren's to do list.

The preferred way for you to post fic here is to post it to an archive, like heliopolis, sam and jack, fanfiction.net and then post a link here to advertise it

we have no way to preserve posts here. If the forum crashes, your stuff is gone. we also have no way to search for it or to archive it in any way

the only reason i haven't deleted the fic of those that are posting it here is because we don't have the archive up and running. I started to allow it as a stopgap measure but the forum really isn't an archive

even though I'd prefer to upload my little baby fic here, I plan on making about a 5-7 more chapters. That would equal up to 60 some pages total on a word document (and I have been saving it on my Computer)and that does seem too big for forum posts. What website would you recommend that I use?