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    #46
    Originally posted by jenks View Post
    Not when the actress doesn't want to come back.
    True, and I respect her for that. But, I was thinking more of those who say they can't bring Weir back because she's full of nanites. The next leader of the Atlantis expediton is going to be the very same guy who hid under the desk in the Return. If you (the general you) can accept that, than Weir of Nine should be a piece of cake.
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      #47
      Seriously 10 yrs from now were gonna have a flock of newbies saying 'whos weir?"[/QUOTE]

      Oh, I doubt this very much. Weir is a lot better than what they currently have and what they may receive...
      Weir did it better.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Celcool View Post
        It's a fact for me. She was ruined in FS, hasn't been the same since.
        ok so it's basically your opinion. that's fine but it's not a fact

        Originally posted by Celcool View Post
        Good that you accept that it's their fault.
        I accept that TBTB (one of them JM) decided to change the character's direction. some like it and others don't, that's a matter of opinion. personally I think it's been a very interesting arc and yes I'm disappointed that we won't see much of it in s5 but that was Torri's decision and I respect it

        Originally posted by Celcool View Post
        Me in my first post in this thread.
        nope you weren't talking about blame in your first post
        Originally posted by Celcool View Post
        That's what I would want as well, the only trick is that the mess of First Strike and season 4 can't be erased, in short what Mallozi did can't be undone, he ruined this wonderful character and treated the actress so badly that she doesn't want to do the show anymore.
        but I know what you mean

        Originally posted by Celcool View Post
        We're talking about Elizabeth full-time on the show, check the title of the thread. Torri said 'no' to one episode, TPTB are to blame for Liz no longer on full-time when they told Torri at the end of s3 to become recurring or walk.
        that last part is a bit harsh, it's not as if TBTB committed any crime. they told Torri about their decision and I'm pretty sure she wasn't happy but she did return for several eps in s4. again we don't know what made her decide to turn down the offer for s5. yes it was TBTB that reduced her role, if that's all you're interested in then go ahead and blame them.

        Originally posted by Celcool View Post
        Clear as mud?
        yup I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on certain stuff

        Originally posted by Celcool View Post
        We know it wasn't her choice not to be on full-time in s4. That's all I need to know.
        if that's all you need...

        Originally posted by Briangate78 View Post
        Yes, and we shall blame them for eps like "BAMSR" and "Midway" shame on them.
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          #49
          Originally posted by nowvoyager908 View Post
          True, and I respect her for that. But, I was thinking more of those who say they can't bring Weir back because she's full of nanites. The next leader of the Atlantis expediton is going to be the very same guy who hid under the desk in the Return. If you (the general you) can accept that, than Weir of Nine should be a piece of cake.
          Yea, what a shame! It's like they want the show to fail.

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            #50
            Originally posted by LivingAsgard View Post
            Yea, what a shame! It's like they want the show to fail.
            you mean TBTB?
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              #51
              Originally posted by Jumper_One View Post
              you mean TBTB?
              What's that?

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                #52
                Originally posted by LivingAsgard View Post
                What's that?
                The Powers That Be, in other words JM, PM etc
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Jumper_One View Post
                  The Powers That Be, in other words JM, PM etc
                  Ah, I see.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by LivingAsgard View Post
                    Ah, I see.
                    so in your opinion TBTB want the show to fail?
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Jumper_One View Post
                      so in your opinion TBTB want the show to fail?
                      They sure do, in my opinion.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by LivingAsgard View Post
                        They sure do, in my opinion.
                        hm interesting. you do realize that ratings and viewership, aswell as the fact that Atlantis has been renewed suggest otherwise? also if this trend continues (and the next eps will be BIG so it's very likely) there'll be a good chance for s6
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Jumper_One View Post
                          hm interesting. you do realize that ratings and viewership, aswell as the fact that Atlantis has been renewed suggest otherwise? also if this trend continues (and the next eps will be BIG so it's very likely) there'll be a good chance for s6
                          I think the finale ratings will be really good considering the upcoming eps

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by FenRiR FoXz View Post
                            I think the finale ratings will be really good considering the upcoming eps
                            LOL this is totally OT anyway yes there's not much competition and hey even Harmony got a 1.2 for live +sd. The Kindred and TLM could match BAMSR's numbers
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                              #59
                              Originally posted by LivingAsgard View Post
                              They sure do, in my opinion.
                              Why would you think that?

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by jenks View Post
                                Why would you think that?
                                It's a conspiracy I tell ya. SCI FI, MGM and Joe M all got into a room together to come up with ideas to destroy Atlantis and make the show tank in ratings. Sadly their plan is not working. Viewers are up from last season's 2nd half.
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