Human race after 50000 years.

[Dr.Mckay]

Well let`s just all hope we use up all our oil, economy dies, and slowly we convert to electric cars.

[kymeric]

If we had to we could use the same technology being designed to terraform mars on the earth. Mine resources from the seabeds and top 20 miles of the crust and produce oxygen and exhaust it into the atmosphere.

There are always options. Realistically we could do without nature if we had to. Pave the world i says! Through technology and science weve earned the right to hold nature down and have our way with it.

[MartianManhunter]

If we had to we could use the same technology being designed to terraform mars on the earth. Mine resources from the seabeds and top 20 miles of the crust and produce oxygen and exhaust it into the atmosphere.

There are always options. Realistically we could do without nature if we had to. Pave the world i says! Through technology and science weve earned the right to hold nature down and have our way with it.

Why would we do that?

That would involve the death of Millions of creatures that have existed on this planet, in one form or another, for millions of years, which would just be wrong.

On top of that you cant forget the wealth of knowledge that exist in the depths of the rainforest that we have yet to discover. Their could be a cure for cancer in their, for cryin out loud! How would you feel knowing that you'd destroyed that?

[kymeric]

Why would we do that?

That would involve the death of Millions of creatures that have existed on this planet, in one form or another, for millions of years, which would just be wrong.

On top of that you cant forget the wealth of knowledge that exist in the depths of the rainforest that we have yet to discover. Their could be a cure for cancer in their, for cryin out loud! How would you feel knowing that you'd destroyed that?

Id be ok with it. Did you know there are There are over seven hundred things in the Rainforest that cause cancer? Im just defending myself. And children! Im a hero :-p

Remember cybertron? Thats how earth should look in a thousand years.

[1138]

We will find other resources when these run out, its a matter of infrastructure. It would cost to much to change the existing oil and gas support infrastructure until there is no other choice, then it becomes cost/benefit.

You have no idea just how dependent our way of life is on oil, do you? And just how hard it is to replace. And how little time we have to do it.

This is a dangerous way to think. It indicates an ignorance of the scale of the problem. It is people like you who are the most dangerous for the survival of the species - you make conclusions without even understanding the facts.

Read the Hirsch report. It's not written by an alarmist; it's a very objective analysis of the situation.

http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications...aking_NETL.pdf

Unless a dramatic move away from fossil fuels is done 20 years before peak oil production occurs, severe economic repercussions cannot be avoided. By the way, peak oil might have occurred in 2005 already and I see no preparations being done to move away from fossil fuels.

It's not as simple as moving to alternatives when we run out. It takes energy to build up a new infrastructure - energy which will not be available by the time we run out of oil. Let's enumerate all the alternatives we have:

1) Biofuels. Doesn't work unless you want to starve the population to feed your cars. It's already driven food prices up dramatically.
2) Electric vehicles. It takes years to replace the existing car fleet. The electrical infrastructure is taxed as it is, and while we could come up with a system that charges cars during off-peak hours, we won't sustain it very long without major upgrades to the grid. Such upgrades take energy which won't be available when oil runs out. This doesn't even mention how many resources it takes to build the new cars.
3) Hydrogen. It still doesn't solve the matter of how do you generate the hydrogen in the first place, which takes massive amounts of energy.
4) Nuclear fusion. Years away still. It's a fool who pins all his hopes on a breakthrough that may or may not happen.

Have a look at the following websites:

http://www.theoildrum.com/
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

The first for news; the second for a fairly pessimistic take on the energy crisis. While I don't subscribe to the conclusions of the second site, the basic dilemma is presented quite well. But you can't really ignore the news that's been aggregated on the first site.

As an intelligent species, we should be concerned about resource depletion now while we still have the resources to transition to a more sustainable life style. We know they will run out eventually and it's only rational to move away from them while it's still easy. Even if the resources don't run out completely, it's like buying insurance for your house. You don't expect it to burn down but you pay anyway in case it does. This isn't a position arrived at through hippy-liberal-ecofreak thinking; it's actually a very reasonable position to take if one is an intelligent, rational and informed person.

[Dr.Mckay]

If we had to we could use the same technology being designed to terraform mars on the earth. Mine resources from the seabeds and top 20 miles of the crust and produce oxygen and exhaust it into the atmosphere.

There are always options. Realistically we could do without nature if we had to. Pave the world i says! Through technology and science weve earned the right to hold nature down and have our way with it.

Actually... we have no technology that can terraform mars, our basic plan to get mars habitable is
1) Melt the polar ice caps
2) Plant a few green trees and grass there, so that they can produce oxygen, there by creating a habitable atmosphere

And we're still at the stage where we have to find a way to get to mars, yes i know there are space shuttles etc, but 2 years on a space ship, most ppl would go insane, im here bored to insanity right now for 1 week because i have spring break...

Also paving the whole earth=no trees, there by even adding a greater affect on our environment. and where do the animals go? in cages being displayed at zoos?

[Dr.Mckay]

You have no idea just how dependent our way of life is on oil, do you? And just how hard it is to replace. And how little time we have to do it.

This is a dangerous way to think. It indicates an ignorance of the scale of the problem. It is people like you who are the most dangerous for the survival of the species - you make conclusions without even understanding the facts.

Read the Hirsch report. It's not written by an alarmist; it's a very objective analysis of the situation.

http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications...aking_NETL.pdf

Unless a dramatic move away from fossil fuels is done 20 years before peak oil production occurs, severe economic repercussions cannot be avoided. By the way, peak oil might have occurred in 2005 already and I see no preparations being done to move away from fossil fuels.

It's not as simple as moving to alternatives when we run out. It takes energy to build up a new infrastructure - energy which will not be available by the time we run out of oil. Let's enumerate all the alternatives we have:

1) Biofuels. Doesn't work unless you want to starve the population to feed your cars. It's already driven food prices up dramatically.
2) Electric vehicles. It takes years to replace the existing car fleet. The electrical infrastructure is taxed as it is, and while we could come up with a system that charges cars during off-peak hours, we won't sustain it very long without major upgrades to the grid. Such upgrades take energy which won't be available when oil runs out. This doesn't even mention how many resources it takes to build the new cars.
3) Hydrogen. It still doesn't solve the matter of how do you generate the hydrogen in the first place, which takes massive amounts of energy.
4) Nuclear fusion. Years away still. It's a fool who pins all his hopes on a breakthrough that may or may not happen.

Have a look at the following websites:

http://www.theoildrum.com/
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

The first for news; the second for a fairly pessimistic take on the energy crisis. While I don't subscribe to the conclusions of the second site, the basic dilemma is presented quite well. But you can't really ignore the news that's been aggregated on the first site.

As an intelligent species, we should be concerned about resource depletion now while we still have the resources to transition to a more sustainable life style. We know they will run out eventually and it's only rational to move away from them while it's still easy. Even if the resources don't run out completely, it's like buying insurance for your house. You don't expect it to burn down but you pay anyway in case it does. This isn't a position arrived at through hippy-liberal-ecofreak thinking; it's actually a very reasonable position to take if one is an intelligent, rational and informed person.

Indeed.

[BubblingOverWithIdeas]

This is all so Earth-centric. With so many planets seeded with human life in the Stargate universe, it's incredibly unlikely that Sheppard was the last living human in 'The Last Man'.

[YutheGreat]

This is all so Earth-centric. With so many planets seeded with human life in the Stargate universe, it's incredibly unlikely that Sheppard was the last living human in 'The Last Man'.

Unless the human race in the Milky way was wiped out by Michael's hybrids. Surely he wanted to expand his territory and deal with the human threat. Earth is the only human threat to the hybrids.

[rarocks24]

we're not going to die because of technology, we're going to die because of depleting resources.
and other species are certainly already dying because of our technology.

And other species are benefiting from our technology.

[Cory Holmes]

And other species are benefiting from our technology.

Which would in turn make us the Ancients, leaving our little goodies around for our descendants to find. Living in our cities, poking and prodding at our blowey-upey toys, cleaning up after us and our insane ways...

[andy tyler]

If the human race can't last 50k years, then we are seriously pathetic. The ancients lasted millions of years.

[wizz_kid_sid]

I think... the humans would've ended up like them things in H.G. Wells - The Time Machine ... morlock or something like that.

[MartianManhunter]

This is all so Earth-centric. With so many planets seeded with human life in the Stargate universe, it's incredibly unlikely that Sheppard was the last living human in 'The Last Man'.

Unless Michael got his hands on a Dakara like device. Their has been speculation on whether or not theres one in the PG, and if he found it he could wipe out the entire galaxy easily.

But again it was just a thought.

[wizz_kid_sid]

Unless Michael got his hands on a Dakara like device. Their has been speculation on whether or not theres one in the PG, and if he found it he could wipe out the entire galaxy easily.

But again it was just a thought.

Actually thats a good point.. wonder if there is a device like that in Pegasus. Could make a pretty good ep. out of that.