It would be a real shame if an ep discussion thread had to be shut down because people couldn't stick to the subject and decided to attack each other instead. 
Regarding Derrick and his "battered woman" scenario, I've started a separate thread about it and would actually appreciate Derrick's input, if he's still around. I have a hard time picturing Dex and Teyla the way he does, but I still think it's an interesting interpretation and I'd like to hear more about the why's and what's of it. To further my own understanding, if nothing else.
As for McKay... I've heard some complain that he was horribly out of character and that the sheer, overwhelming mass of his ego seemed unrealistic. Now, I was one of the ones griping about the backslide in McKay's character in the first few episodes and how I felt they did more damage than justice to his character, but I felt that his portrayal in Trinity was more or less on target. I said it before- it isn't a very pretty picture we get of him, but it reads, to me, as being brutally honest.
McKay CAN get carried away. He DOES get obsessed with science. He DOES think he's smarter than everyone else... because 90% of the time, he is. And I think that, in the beginning, he was being altruistic. Or, at least, part of his motivations were altruistic: he wanted to find out what went wrong so that he could know why Collins had died... and so that he could hopefully prevent it from happening again. But after that, his obsessive nature took over and while he may have been telling himself he was doing it for Collins, it was more about himself and his compulsive need to "conquer" science, to understand everything, and to be better than everyone else. We've all gotten "caught up" in our own projects before (or I have, anyway), it's just that when McKay's involved it's on a much bigger- and in this case more dangerous- scale.
I've seen people complaining that Weir caved too easily to Shep's and Caldwell's demands. But isn't it possible that she, herself, was interested in McKay's experiment? And that it was only the knowledge of the severe danger it posed that made her hold off? Maybe that's why "convincing" her was so easy- it was something she wanted done, anyway, and in this case she was willing to allow her curiosity to overcome her common sense.
I do agree that she should have listened to Radek. She should have forced them to shut down the project right then and there. Curiosity is one thing, and yes, there's trusting Rodney, but with something on this scale, if there is ANY question of safety, I think that it should be investigated. After all, it isn't as if they couldn't shut it down, look into the info Radek discussed, and then start up again later if they deemed his concerns unfounded. Right? I got a sense of urgency to this whole thing, but was there an actual REASON for it?
Poor Radek. He's usually content to stay in Rodney's shadow and just pipe along with the info they've mutually gathered. If he speaks out- particularly against Rodney- it's worth heeding him, IMO. It isn't something he does lightly... or often.
I hope he wasn't TOO crushed by Weir's dismissal. Poor, lovestruck lil' puppy.
Regarding Derrick and his "battered woman" scenario, I've started a separate thread about it and would actually appreciate Derrick's input, if he's still around. I have a hard time picturing Dex and Teyla the way he does, but I still think it's an interesting interpretation and I'd like to hear more about the why's and what's of it. To further my own understanding, if nothing else.
As for McKay... I've heard some complain that he was horribly out of character and that the sheer, overwhelming mass of his ego seemed unrealistic. Now, I was one of the ones griping about the backslide in McKay's character in the first few episodes and how I felt they did more damage than justice to his character, but I felt that his portrayal in Trinity was more or less on target. I said it before- it isn't a very pretty picture we get of him, but it reads, to me, as being brutally honest.
McKay CAN get carried away. He DOES get obsessed with science. He DOES think he's smarter than everyone else... because 90% of the time, he is. And I think that, in the beginning, he was being altruistic. Or, at least, part of his motivations were altruistic: he wanted to find out what went wrong so that he could know why Collins had died... and so that he could hopefully prevent it from happening again. But after that, his obsessive nature took over and while he may have been telling himself he was doing it for Collins, it was more about himself and his compulsive need to "conquer" science, to understand everything, and to be better than everyone else. We've all gotten "caught up" in our own projects before (or I have, anyway), it's just that when McKay's involved it's on a much bigger- and in this case more dangerous- scale.
I've seen people complaining that Weir caved too easily to Shep's and Caldwell's demands. But isn't it possible that she, herself, was interested in McKay's experiment? And that it was only the knowledge of the severe danger it posed that made her hold off? Maybe that's why "convincing" her was so easy- it was something she wanted done, anyway, and in this case she was willing to allow her curiosity to overcome her common sense.
I do agree that she should have listened to Radek. She should have forced them to shut down the project right then and there. Curiosity is one thing, and yes, there's trusting Rodney, but with something on this scale, if there is ANY question of safety, I think that it should be investigated. After all, it isn't as if they couldn't shut it down, look into the info Radek discussed, and then start up again later if they deemed his concerns unfounded. Right? I got a sense of urgency to this whole thing, but was there an actual REASON for it?
Poor Radek. He's usually content to stay in Rodney's shadow and just pipe along with the info they've mutually gathered. If he speaks out- particularly against Rodney- it's worth heeding him, IMO. It isn't something he does lightly... or often.
I hope he wasn't TOO crushed by Weir's dismissal. Poor, lovestruck lil' puppy.
We could have dismantled it, studied it, and maybe reversed engineered it *sob* Why did the Ancients have honking great space guns, but not one on Atlantis, I am begining to get annoyed at the writers. The city is hopeless. A century of war and it has a single drone launcher. How pathetic. The short arms with the circular tubs at the end should each have supported a ion cannon like the one in Trinity. Perhaps they do, and the power switch hasn't been found yet 
ought to be ignored, in a pointedly insulting post not so long ago, but perhaps one of your many friends will advise you that I still don't see "Moderator" next to your name, and that your stomping your little feet to be obeyed is assumptive of an authority you do not have. 
Or is Sponge just a cross dresser?
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