Originally posted by LoveConquers
Of course. 
Same here.
I can't speak for anyone else of course, but for me, I definitely see them as equals. Not in terms of position because that can be argued both ways. John is obviously in a higher ranking military position, but Teyla is the leader of her people. Lt. Colonel vs. Leader of a race of people, it's not my place to say which position is higher up, but I don't believe a person is necessarily or competely defined by their roles. So no, I was not speaking in terms of positions.
And not necessarily in terms of combat either because this can again be aruged both ways. In my opinion, Teyla is more skilled in hand to hand combat (All the sparring sessions and the hand to hand battles we've seen her do), but John would seem to be the one more skilled with weaponry/guns (He seems to have some marksmenship in his background with the way he saved Elizabeth in The Eye and the way he took out all the Genii in Storm/Eye). Hand to hand vs weaponry, it's again not my place to say which skill is higher up as both have their moments of importance.
What's really interesting to me is that all the reasons you used to argue against them being equals are exactly the same reasons I would argue that they are. John is very aware of what he needs to do and how he needs to do it, but yet he listens to Teyla's opinion as well. Sometimes he agrees and sometimes he disagrees. Sometimes he follows her advice and sometimes he doesn't. But she does the same with him. What's important is the fact that they do discuss their opinions with each other, when it is appropriate (ie, not when he is talking to her as her ranking military officer or not when she is representing her people as she deems necessary).
They have also both rescued each other on more than one occasion. And I too believe he feels she is more than capable to hold her own and has high admiration of her. And this also clearly goes both ways as we see her also putting her trust in him, knowing he can hold his own and showing high admiration for him, the most significant example being in Allies, exactly as you mentioned!
But I do not agree with your statement, "if he thought of Teyla as an equal to him, then I don't think that he'd be as attracted to her either." May I ask why you think that? I've never actually heard someone say that before. I personally would find it hard to be attracted to someone who I felt wasn't on the same level as me. I am attracted to someone who shares my interests and passions, who challenges me on all levels physically and intellectually, and who (for risk of sounding utterly cheesy!) can complete me by filling in my weaknesses and enhancing my strengths. I would not find this with someone if this person was not my equal in all matters of importance.
For me, when I say they are equals, I mean in terms of honesty, conviction, values, interests, passions, etc, not in terms of job or physical strength. Ones job or ones expertise are tangible things, I was thinking more of the intangible.
Steph
Same here. I can't speak for anyone else of course, but for me, I definitely see them as equals. Not in terms of position because that can be argued both ways. John is obviously in a higher ranking military position, but Teyla is the leader of her people. Lt. Colonel vs. Leader of a race of people, it's not my place to say which position is higher up, but I don't believe a person is necessarily or competely defined by their roles. So no, I was not speaking in terms of positions.
And not necessarily in terms of combat either because this can again be aruged both ways. In my opinion, Teyla is more skilled in hand to hand combat (All the sparring sessions and the hand to hand battles we've seen her do), but John would seem to be the one more skilled with weaponry/guns (He seems to have some marksmenship in his background with the way he saved Elizabeth in The Eye and the way he took out all the Genii in Storm/Eye). Hand to hand vs weaponry, it's again not my place to say which skill is higher up as both have their moments of importance.
What's really interesting to me is that all the reasons you used to argue against them being equals are exactly the same reasons I would argue that they are.
John is very aware of what he needs to do and how he needs to do it, but yet he listens to Teyla's opinion as well. Sometimes he agrees and sometimes he disagrees. Sometimes he follows her advice and sometimes he doesn't. But she does the same with him. What's important is the fact that they do discuss their opinions with each other, when it is appropriate (ie, not when he is talking to her as her ranking military officer or not when she is representing her people as she deems necessary). They have also both rescued each other on more than one occasion. And I too believe he feels she is more than capable to hold her own and has high admiration of her. And this also clearly goes both ways as we see her also putting her trust in him, knowing he can hold his own and showing high admiration for him, the most significant example being in Allies, exactly as you mentioned!
But I do not agree with your statement, "if he thought of Teyla as an equal to him, then I don't think that he'd be as attracted to her either." May I ask why you think that? I've never actually heard someone say that before. I personally would find it hard to be attracted to someone who I felt wasn't on the same level as me. I am attracted to someone who shares my interests and passions, who challenges me on all levels physically and intellectually, and who (for risk of sounding utterly cheesy!) can complete me by filling in my weaknesses and enhancing my strengths. I would not find this with someone if this person was not my equal in all matters of importance.
For me, when I say they are equals, I mean in terms of honesty, conviction, values, interests, passions, etc, not in terms of job or physical strength. Ones job or ones expertise are tangible things, I was thinking more of the intangible.
Steph
Or it could be that I misunderstood what you meant, which is very common btw! or it could be that I'm not using the right words, again, something very common for me, but I AGREE with everything that you wrote here...
so, let's just say! we misunderstood each other....
I do agree that they have similar qualities and attributes that makes them work together so well..and because of their understanding, respect and admiration to one another they are able to even surpass when there's a difference between them! and that is what makes them unique and special...it just works for them!
As far as my statement, again, I wrote that at I think 12:30 or something...and you are absolutely right, he wouldn't and shouldn't and it would not be as interesting to me if he didn't like Teyla if she wasn't an equal..I think what I was trying to say, is what Sanssong posted in an earlier posting, that he finds Teyla attractive because of her uniqueness and her no nonsense attitude....that's what I meant to say...
Let me not mess this up again...here's her posting and I think this is what I was trying to write..
Sanssong...
Gotta disagree with you here.... John is the kind of man who gets bored easily and a woman who jumps when he says jump doesn't seem to interest him. Teyla interests him because she doesn't do that- although at the same time, her respect for him is obvious and men are drawn to women who respect them for who they are and the decisions they make. Though I do agree that part of her charm for him is that she is somewhat of a mystery. Guys LOVE that- John is no exception.
So, I think it's safe to write, that I do agree with you Loveconquers....We can just see the vibe coming from these two a mile away! hehehehehe
Jules wrote..
When he is full of crap, she tells him so. That's what I meant, and it's a good thing in both a teammate and a, er...just plain mate. (Oh good wording, Jules. Not.) When he charms her it seems to be because she lets him.
But, I was just adding this, Jules..I agree with you 100% .....Teyla is too smart and too wise for her own good to let John or anyone else for that matter get the best out of her...I think in the end, she goes in John's side because of their connection, trust and level of respect and understanding for one another..and Teyla wouldn't give it a second thought to voice her opinion with John or anyone else for that matter, and John knows it...that is why sometimes he needs to speak with her the way he did in the Siege after the Bates incident, only to protect her and to get her to see that he's only looking out for her own good...And certainly, when he charms her, it's because Teyla knows better and thinks with her head and not with her heart! and that is one more thing that I love about them....they can have fun with each other, but never loose sight of their ultimate goal....and of what needs to be done!
But you are right! Again, I"m just a nutty shipper! Don't mind me!
Can you tell me how to do this? I understand about needing to open an account with photobucket or a similar site, but do I just save this and then upload? And going back to my original question that CR was kind enough to answer, how do I give you appropriate credit then? Thanks! 
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