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...yep i think Rodney is the best for this things...
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thanks Sanssong......yep i think Rodney is the best for this things......
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I did like her interaction with Sora, but I have to say the strongest back-story ep for Teyla was Critical Mass and her good-bye with Charin. I learned so very much about Teyla from that one ep. From Athosian stuff, like the Ring Ceremony to personal Teyla stuff like her lovely singing voice. I think the best though was seeing how she deals with deep seated emotions like greif- it gave some insight into why we don't always see big reactions from her. It's because she's not the kind of person to show emotion so openly. That for me was huge.Originally posted by Major FischerComment
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That's what I mean but how I'm much more satisified with the developement they've put into her in the second season.Originally posted by sanssong
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I agree. Guess I misunderstood what you were getting at.Originally posted by Major FischerComment
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Glad it helped. I usually find it difficult to translate ideas that make sense in my head to words that make sense to everyone else. Especially online without face, body and voice to help.Originally posted by Major FischerBella,
I completely agree with you and find it extremely frustrating. Joe is such a talented actor that this idealized personna that the powers that be are really limiting the deepth of the character.
I think on another level as a woman I don't find this kind of male fantasy persona as attractive as I found the flawed and more human Sheppard. But than again I didn't like Luke Skywalker either. It's something about the Hero character when he's not allowed to grow and breath that starts to feel stale. I'm so glad that Astro pointed this post out to me because I had never thought about it before and that's a great insite into something I've been feeling for some time.
I agree that this stereotype can be constricting. I mean it works in films like Top Gun but on TV it can become, well like you said, stale.
And SnoggingPicard (great username by the way) made a very good point about consquences, and reprimands only coming from characters written to be unpopular. I'd love to see O'Neill or Hammond demanding explanations for Shep's actions in Hot Zone!
I'm not sure I'd want to see backstory for Teyla. I certainly want more Teyla and character development etc. but I get the feeling that Teyla backstory might turn into one of the Klingon/Worf episodes from Star Trek which I personally found rather dreary.Comment
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Woah....we're really jumping off topic...don't get me wrong I love talking about Shep, but that should be directed to Shep discussion not here. I've noticed that there has been a great deal of interruption on our thread because it's claimed to be off topic quite a bit and this will feed that fire.
I'm noticing that happening in some of the last posts of this page.
The same should be for the Teyla posts....great again---albeit I felt the development of Teyla was developed it's depending on what you chooose to see in S1. I'm surprised that the subject was going in that route although again I love your post Bella...always do.
AS for the character developmemt of both together and singularly with the team. I felt that Teyla was thoroughly explained and both at the same time. clearly in S1, LFP is a fabulous example of that.
I'm not talking shipperness although of course it can be taken there. Suspicion was another great example. I acutally felt ahtough there were great moments between the two and with the team. The focus was definitely developing the Wraith than really the Atlantis team in S2---actually a lot of WRaith love in S2 than in S1. We already knew of Teyla's feelings and much about the Athosian's in S1 through The Gift..another great John/Teyla interaction piece. Again another good point Sanssong but I felt CM was very minimal in anything like that....just showed that the enemy could be anywhere and I got to see Teyla cry....closest I saw that was in The Gift..and you see a bit of her singing.
For both I felt we get John uncertainty on a high level and Teyla emotionally a rollercoaster. That can be good and bad, great cause we get character development and how everyone not only our two faves her get into that emotional drama...but it's bad because it makes them look like fools in the end. Which can clearly came back and bit them on the butt.
I preferred the development in S1 for both of them over S2 mentally and with what's around them...
Again I only made my first comment because again trying to avoid OT posts which the posts above can be complained about being.
Celede glad your here and I'm loving the site...good to find a new haven to go to and glad your doing it. I made you a bud by the way I think. I wanted to know if your planning on adding sections like for J/T art, J/T vids....that would be great. GW is definitely not alll we need when we want to chat off about J/T.
VB
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Wow, two pages and that took me forever! You guys talk a lot don't you!!
I think I'm covering all the things that were directed at me, if I've missed something yell it at me again!
About the page summary on the LJ. Not just for paid accounts, although the coding is quite difficult... I've got a surprise for you guys but it's going to be up in about a week or so... coding and essay do not a happy Celede make.
The archive thing. There is no 'archive' function on LJ but they do have this WONDERFUL little tool called 'tags'. I haven't set any up yet, BUT because it can be confusing if you are new to LJ just post away and I'll add the tags for you.
What this means is that, eventually, you'll be able to click on a tag and all the entries that have that tag will come up. Some examples of our tags will be, fanfiction, wallpapers, icons etc (since there's going to be a lot of fanfiction I think I might also add genres to the tags)
On a Shep/Teyla note, I just had a Shep/Weir shipper tell me that 'Home' was a Shep/Weir ep cos he said that he wondered how she was doing...Comment
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We do tend to talk quite a bit!Originally posted by CeledeWow, two pages and that took me forever! You guys talk a lot don't you!!
Big J/T hugs for you Celede you are a goddess for doing this for us! We'll wait!Originally posted by Celede
Ah! So that's what those are for! lol! I'm still learning LJ stuff. I'm excited we'll have an easy way to find all the different categories.Originally posted by Celede
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! *suz falls over laughing* Oh, mercy.... sorry... *wipes tears from eyes*..... bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! Oh... sorry... Okay- okay.... I'm better now. That is the 'shipper glasses effect' in full force if I've ever heard it! 'Home' was probably one the MOST J/T shipper eps there is! And one of the many great arguments against S/W!Originally posted by CeledeComment
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*blink blink*Originally posted by Celede
^ What she said.Originally posted by sanssongComment
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just to let you all know that all the entries on the LJ have now been tagged. I'm going to be doing author tags as well so that, eventually when I set up the bio with the link, you'll be able to browse for fic just by author if you like!
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Hi guys....Originally posted by Celede
I am still very sick..so I will make this short...YEAH RIGHT!
Oh, still have my sense of humor, though....hehehehehe
I am extremely weak..so forgive me...
The flu is killing me! no pun intended...
Just thought I'd share a couple of things with you..
First off..WOW! Great convo...
Sorry, but I don't get the whole Mary Sue thing..and don't bother explaining it either...
Um...what else did I read...Annie...love your pics as always..you are going to have to come up with something new until new episodes come cause I need to see your pics..I mean, I LIVE by them! so go back to the beginning if you have to...just post more pics...
Um...what else did I read...OH, I went to the LJ..I just have one nitpick...Why are we calling it Gateworld? or something like it...don't know, maybe I miss something....
Okay...what else...you guys already know how I feel about the whole John and Teyla getting together..interesting enough...I used to watch The West Wing..then I got bored...I get bored very easily..so I stopped watching it like three season ago, and now today there is an article on MSN that Donna and Josh kissed and slept together! WHAT? I loved those two from day one..so, I"m like go figure they sleep together when I'm not watching...jeepers!
Anyways, to keep this on topic....the article was about how TV hates pairing couples and how it takes years before anything is ever really resolved..and of coarse, they mention Scully and Mulder...and whatever happened to them after the ending, hopefully they are making up...I thought that was a great line...but of coarse, it reminded me so much of our conversations here of John and Teyla...
Moving on...CELEDE..are you the awesome Celede that has some awesome fics in unique bond...? OH, if you are...HON! why haven't you done any others..and if you have, where can I get them...I love your fics...if you're not the same...sorry!
Now, you are the one doing the LJ...LOVE IT! Wonderful job...Now, I have to say, we have a LJ for J/T as well..I told you guys that Trippy had it..AtlantisLovers...so, I guess now we have two places to post our stuff...GREAT! I still would like to consider a site like uniquebond..it's just that I like the fact that it is larger and it has the specific links to what you want and things like that...Please, don't get me wrong, Celede or Sanssong..I love this idea of the LJ......I am just not getting the whole LJ stuff patted down...I'm going to have to depend on others until I have time to learn how to do this...
Okay...I gotta go...not feeling too hot right now! but I have to post two things here before I go...
one..Nytel finally posted the fic that she wrote for me! AH...she is too good to me..It's called When You're Sick...she didn't go for any of my suggestions...hehehehehe
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2878592/1/
Please leave her a review..and for Ritter's as well..he added another chapter to Together Forever for me as well....*smooch*
these are two great writers....
and finally, to my knowledge there is a new J/T writer..and she is getting better and better with her writing...at least I think it's a her...
This is her latest one..she doesn't get that many review and I don't know why cause her fics are really getting better...so go and check this one out...it's really very good! and leave a review...
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2880695/1/
Another fic that is I think A Novella is this one..it's really very good..and extremely long..I haven't catched up yet but it's very Sheyla in a subtle way..but it has some great moments between Rodney and Teyla as well..
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2472346/1/
Okay...I am sure I've missed something..but I really have to go..I was hoping to work on some fics and picfics and some Wallpapers, sigs..but I don't think so....not quite myself just yet!
I've missed you guys incredibly..but I'm so glad to see that things are moving..
Mr. F...I think I've already welcomed you..but hey...welcome..
Bella, great thoughts
Pretty, Awesome Wallpapers
Witchy..super work *i hope you're not mad at me cause of my comment about your manip pic* You know I love your work!
SP...hugs hon!
VB..I've missed you
Trippy...you must stop more often
Caz....love your work hon...
Sanssong..have I told you that my life depends on those fics of yours...
DM..hugs hon...now, I know how you were feeling a couple of weeks ago...
hope all is well..
Spectrum..we need to do more wallpapers together..hehehehehe
Ritter..You are the Best!
Okay...if I forgot anyone, please forgive me....I really have to go...now...
don't forget to leave a review for those fics....
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...I'm not Camy, That wasn't her belly anyway, it's the the person whose head I did away with...
...just wanted the outfit, and I'm not good at those manips...so that's maybe the last like that I'll be doing...
Off to read ficcies......
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You know you are awesome, right? ...because YOU ARE!!!!Originally posted by CeledeWow, two pages and that took me forever! You guys talk a lot don't you!!
I think I'm covering all the things that were directed at me, if I've missed something yell it at me again!
About the page summary on the LJ. Not just for paid accounts, although the coding is quite difficult... I've got a surprise for you guys but it's going to be up in about a week or so... coding and essay do not a happy Celede make.
The archive thing. There is no 'archive' function on LJ but they do have this WONDERFUL little tool called 'tags'. I haven't set any up yet, BUT because it can be confusing if you are new to LJ just post away and I'll add the tags for you.
What this means is that, eventually, you'll be able to click on a tag and all the entries that have that tag will come up. Some examples of our tags will be, fanfiction, wallpapers, icons etc (since there's going to be a lot of fanfiction I think I might also add genres to the tags)
Ummmm...All I tend to remember was the fact that Weir made the comment that Shep should have been the one to return to Earth while she stayed on Atlantis so he would be stuck back home while she could still run Atlantis...that and the whole thing of Weir wanting to see Simon again...but I am still up for people interpreting things the way that they want...even if I don't quite get itOn a Shep/Teyla note, I just had a Shep/Weir shipper tell me that 'Home' was a Shep/Weir ep cos he said that he wondered how she was doing...
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PHEW...thanks Witchy...you mean too much to me!Originally posted by WitchBlade007...I'm not Camy, That wasn't her belly anyway, it's the the person whose head I did away with......just wanted the outfit, and I'm not good at those manips...so that's maybe the last like that I'll be doing...
Off to read ficcies......
Oh, on a side note..I just read my 8 messages..and I'm so worried about JS..she is going back to the hospital...she had to have her appendis removed and it seems she is not getting better..OH, please keep her in your prayers, guys...I am so worried about her now.....
On a side note..Celede..the entire episode of Home was so S/T
I mean go back when John told Teyla that he'd go to Earth if he knew he could come back to Atlantis...then, who did he invite to go with him to Earth? and yeah, he asked about Weir and the others...How many hours later after he'd spent the entire day shopping with Teyla....yeah, very shep/teyla indeed! and that is just the beginning...and if he was so interested and thinking so much of Weir, then how come she didn't appear like Ford and the others did..since he was so manipulating his thoughts, right?sigpicComment
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Um...don't know if I posted this or not..so forgive me if I'm repeating myself...but I've updated The Kiss that Started it All..Chapt..10 is up..hope you guys like it...
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2639592/10/sigpicComment
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