John Sheppard/Teyla Emmagan Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[Jeyla4ever]

Is it completed?

[scifan]

Is it completed?

Yes ma'am.

[Elflinn]

*blushes*

did you read it? Did you like it? don't tell me, write me a review in there...

Elfita, what did you think of Quarantine? did you squeee as much as I did?

*Camy jumps up and down*

YES!! I did!! I was especially SQUEEEEING during the

Spoiler:

SpideyShep parts!!!!! I can't help to think that all of these awesome JT scenes are somewhat bittersweet! You just know the tptb are going to do something to cause beyond a boatload of angst! Even possibly try to put a wedge between them. I still like what Jess and Sci had posted about her taking John's hand and placing on her belly to feel the baby kick. To me, that is a personal and intimate thing. It wasn't like the Budda belly rubbing moments that you do get when you are pregnant. I can't speak from experience but, I've had really close friends go through people coming up and rubbing their bellies for good luck!! But, the scene with our JT was not that at all by a long shot.

[Princess Awinita]

Hey Camy, where is the rest of my calander? I only have Jan then a few screenshots without dates for some more of the year... *holds a sign that has the following warning, "Will Hug Life Out of Beings if No Calander for Rest of Year is Given"* *gets closer to Camy*

[elephantgirl]

We have Lurkers in the thread!!!!

Come on in and say:

HELLLOOOOOOOO!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I"m going to screammm.....oh, I'm screaming already...

I HATE SATELLITE!!!!

Hubby and I record Stargate..well, he records Flash Gordon and all those shows before SGA but in the middle of Quarantine, the stupid satellite went off, and now I"m trying to buy it in Itunes and it's not there!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I feel your pain. Have a Season Pass and it's just not showing up.

NEED

QUARANTINE

NOW!

[scifan]

Hey Camy, where is the rest of my calander? I only have Jan then a few screenshots without dates for some more of the year... *holds a sign that has the following warning, "Will Hug Life Out of Beings if No Calander for Rest of Year is Given"* *gets closer to Camy*

Hey Tey. Did you send all the pretties to Rachel website?

[scifan]

HELLLOOOOOOOO!



I feel your pain. Have a Season Pass and it's just not showing up.

NEED

QUARANTINE

NOW!

Just think The Three Stooges when you see that banner.
Me too.

[Princess Awinita]

Hey Tey. Did you send all the pretties to Rachel website?

yup yup yup!!!

[Princess Awinita]

Just think The Three Stooges when you see that banner.

gonna watch last nights eppy tomrrow,and I think the Atlantis Three Stooges (John, Ronon & Rodney) sing a bit more ON Key then off it, in fact it IS like the Three Stooges because of two things....

There are three guys that all but want the other dead, and there is one girl they all have hots for.... erm... I'll shutup now

ETA: am currently watching Moe, Curly and Larry in Idol Roomers on youtube

[Elflinn]

Hey y'all!

Here's a new JT fic..
I think this is the first JT fic by this author.

Comfort Found by Sue2
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4021835/1/Comfort_Found

[Jeyla4ever]

My thoughts on Quarantine...still not quite there, but almost.

Spoiler:

The episode was lacking something but I think they did this one better than Tabula Rasa for sure. I loved the pairings that they use in a way, but I truly care not to see Ronon and Keller. First of all, for me, the only thing that would get Ronon to look at Keller is that she's in medecine like his girlfriend was. For some reason, I just don't think that Keller is the woman for Ronon. She's a whiner and a whimp and eventhough I have no problem with that convo, I just...I don't know maybe I just still hold resentment that she took Carson's place, maybe the writers are making me rush into liking her too much by throwing her down my throat. She's supposed to be a recurring character and I feel that she's had just as many scenes if not more than Teyla!!! and that bugs me! It's already bad enough that I have to see Carter in Atlantis, and I actually like Carter...I don't know, I just think the writers are rushing. I mean even if they had done this with John and Teyla I would have hated it.

I mean, one minute Ronon is telling her that he didn't like her at the beginning and now because she came up with an idea of the oxygen tank he wants to sleep with her? What?

I don't know...I don't like them!

Period!

I'm not going to root against them and I won't hold it against you or anyone esle, I promise, if you do. It's just that I don't like them.

who knows, maybe they'll grow on me later....

I think it's interesting what the writers did. and because I was so focused on the JT moments and so sickened by Ronon/Keller moments, I missed the whole point to Rodney and Katie. And when I saw the ending, I was like...what??????

So, I have to see it again.

Two things I did noticed...the writers are clearly defining some things in here about relationships.

John and Teyla is clearly seen as the one that has the foundation, the one that is firm and has been together the longest. You can see how the writers begin their story with them in a comfortable state almost. yes, you see John hesitate with her presence and the baby, but that is not discomfort around her just him being paranoid about delivering a baby alone.

that's normal in any man especially one that has a personal attachment to her. Almost what a husband would do.

You see with the two of them how where the others are trying to find a way out, John and Teyla just stop quickly and go about a different approach and are almost insync with their actions whereas the other couples are still trying to figure each other out. And you would think that Carter and Zelenka would be the easiest because they are both scientist....

But yet, John and Teyla standout as the one that finds a comfort zone earlier than the others and find the commonality and are one of the same right from the beginnning...sitting at the computer, doing the same thing together, thinking of Rodney, etc...they are one. That only comes from a married couple. Not even brothers and sisters or friends do that. That only comes from you spending intimate and private time with someone on a different level and the writers were going with that feel for these two. Hence, there was no tension, there was no angst, there was no confusion because they were one in the same.

With Keller/Ronon there was uncertainty, there was uncomfortableness, there was an odd feeling and there was a hesitant urgency to get out. Keller used it on the fact that she was needed out there. She has a very low self esteem if you notice and that's not a woman for Ronon. Ronon was trying to understand her and open up to her in a friendly matter, but by him sharing so much of his personal life so quickly with her, I felt that they toned down Ronon way too much too soon. It almost made him look desperate to me, and that makes me not like Keller even more because it almost sends the message that the girl just wants attention from a man. And that's the only way she feels comfortable.

I don't know if I'm making any sense. But clearly the writers were showing her a beginning of something that may or may not turn into something more. But to me, this will be an entire different relationship all together. These two had sexual tension. John and Teyla are beyond that based on this section. There's is a deeper meaning. One of a lifetime, hence John's confession of a family again! Ronon and Keller are testing the waters and basing their foundation on attraction and sexual tension.
A sort of could be, could not be. They are going to see where it goes.

Katie and Rodney are the odd couple. They are the couple that is trying so hard to want to be in love, to want to be together, to want to be the perfect couple that in the end, they forget who they really are and what they really want. Katie wants the house and the picket fence. Katie wanted Rodney to propose to her. Whether it be that she loves him or not, I don't think so. From her look at the end there, it tells me that she is in love with love, but not with Rodney. And I think Rodney realized that he wanted something that he thought he could never have and finally when he realized that he can have it, he isn't ready for it. Whether it be that Katie is not the right woman, I"m not sure. But clearly, Rodney realized that even in his death, he still couldn't propose to her, and that told him, she's not the one.

Sad, but they both realized it before they made the mistake and for me, I missed it when it happened. And I have to see it again.

But again, I loved the different scenarios and how the writers presented each one of them. Teyla and John's level of trust and comfort is beyond any other relationship. It's unique, it's special, it's everlasting and unbreakable. If you are seeing this episode for the first time unaware of the background between these two, you get the feeiling that they are indeed a married couple. But then upon hearing Teyla's words, you sense the unfairness and the irony of it all because both are acting the same way, that they are a couple and this is their child.

Jonn's reaction to her sudden gasp...he strodes to her instantly. Only a lover does that. A father. Her instant reaching out to him to feel her tummy. You do that only with those that are closest to you and only if you are a touchy feely person. Teyla is NOT a touchy feely person. She's reaching out to him as if he's the father of her child. And when she realizes that he's not, she shudders and looks away. Almost regretting and shamefully and saddened.

He panics. He knows it in her eyes that she's suffering but he misinterprets her anguish as simply worrying for her child and for her safety and hence he springs to life and finds a way out. Only with Teyla would he do such things and act such ways. There are no boundaries and no limits to what he would do for her.

In the end, again, the clarity of their connection, the worrisome of her eyes, and the carefree to which they flow back to normal and spot in their friend instanty and again, insync that Ronon has something to hide in relation to Keller.

Even at the end, the writers continued the theme between these two. The comfortable established couple, the ones that lost themselves in a time when you would think they would cling to one another and the new and questionable couple that exhudes uncertainty, mistrust and no foundation but the simple fact that they are physically attracted to one another. John and Teyla are way beyond that. And have tested and passed the test that Rodney and Katie failed.

I paid very little attention to Carter and Zelenka.

[YappiChick]

Camy, great thoughts on Quarantine. I left you a review for your story too. BTW, are you going to join the Round Robin next month?

[Elflinn]

My thoughts on Quarantine...still not quite there, but almost.

Spoiler:

The episode was lacking something but I think they did this one better than Tabula Rasa for sure. I loved the pairings that they use in a way, but I truly care not to see Ronon and Keller. First of all, for me, the only thing that would get Ronon to look at Keller is that she's in medecine like his girlfriend was. For some reason, I just don't think that Keller is the woman for Ronon. She's a whiner and a whimp and eventhough I have no problem with that convo, I just...I don't know maybe I just still hold resentment that she took Carson's place, maybe the writers are making me rush into liking her too much by throwing her down my throat. She's supposed to be a recurring character and I feel that she's had just as many scenes if not more than Teyla!!! and that bugs me! It's already bad enough that I have to see Carter in Atlantis, and I actually like Carter...I don't know, I just think the writers are rushing. I mean even if they had done this with John and Teyla I would have hated it.

I mean, one minute Ronon is telling her that he didn't like her at the beginning and now because she came up with an idea of the oxygen tank he wants to sleep with her? What?

I don't know...I don't like them!

Period!

I'm not going to root against them and I won't hold it against you or anyone esle, I promise, if you do. It's just that I don't like them.

who knows, maybe they'll grow on me later....

I think it's interesting what the writers did. and because I was so focused on the JT moments and so sickened by Ronon/Keller moments, I missed the whole point to Rodney and Katie. And when I saw the ending, I was like...what??????

So, I have to see it again.

Two things I did noticed...the writers are clearly defining some things in here about relationships.

John and Teyla is clearly seen as the one that has the foundation, the one that is firm and has been together the longest. You can see how the writers begin their story with them in a comfortable state almost. yes, you see John hesitate with her presence and the baby, but that is not discomfort around her just him being paranoid about delivering a baby alone.

that's normal in any man especially one that has a personal attachment to her. Almost what a husband would do.

You see with the two of them how where the others are trying to find a way out, John and Teyla just stop quickly and go about a different approach and are almost insync with their actions whereas the other couples are still trying to figure each other out. And you would think that Carter and Zelenka would be the easiest because they are both scientist....

But yet, John and Teyla standout as the one that finds a comfort zone earlier than the others and find the commonality and are one of the same right from the beginnning...sitting at the computer, doing the same thing together, thinking of Rodney, etc...they are one. That only comes from a married couple. Not even brothers and sisters or friends do that. That only comes from you spending intimate and private time with someone on a different level and the writers were going with that feel for these two. Hence, there was no tension, there was no angst, there was no confusion because they were one in the same.

With Keller/Ronon there was uncertainty, there was uncomfortableness, there was an odd feeling and there was a hesitant urgency to get out. Keller used it on the fact that she was needed out there. She has a very low self esteem if you notice and that's not a woman for Ronon. Ronon was trying to understand her and open up to her in a friendly matter, but by him sharing so much of his personal life so quickly with her, I felt that they toned down Ronon way too much too soon. It almost made him look desperate to me, and that makes me not like Keller even more because it almost sends the message that the girl just wants attention from a man. And that's the only way she feels comfortable.

I don't know if I'm making any sense. But clearly the writers were showing her a beginning of something that may or may not turn into something more. But to me, this will be an entire different relationship all together. These two had sexual tension. John and Teyla are beyond that based on this section. There's is a deeper meaning. One of a lifetime, hence John's confession of a family again! Ronon and Keller are testing the waters and basing their foundation on attraction and sexual tension.
A sort of could be, could not be. They are going to see where it goes.

Katie and Rodney are the odd couple. They are the couple that is trying so hard to want to be in love, to want to be together, to want to be the perfect couple that in the end, they forget who they really are and what they really want. Katie wants the house and the picket fence. Katie wanted Rodney to propose to her. Whether it be that she loves him or not, I don't think so. From her look at the end there, it tells me that she is in love with love, but not with Rodney. And I think Rodney realized that he wanted something that he thought he could never have and finally when he realized that he can have it, he isn't ready for it. Whether it be that Katie is not the right woman, I"m not sure. But clearly, Rodney realized that even in his death, he still couldn't propose to her, and that told him, she's not the one.

Sad, but they both realized it before they made the mistake and for me, I missed it when it happened. And I have to see it again.

But again, I loved the different scenarios and how the writers presented each one of them. Teyla and John's level of trust and comfort is beyond any other relationship. It's unique, it's special, it's everlasting and unbreakable. If you are seeing this episode for the first time unaware of the background between these two, you get the feeiling that they are indeed a married couple. But then upon hearing Teyla's words, you sense the unfairness and the irony of it all because both are acting the same way, that they are a couple and this is their child.

Jonn's reaction to her sudden gasp...he strodes to her instantly. Only a lover does that. A father. Her instant reaching out to him to feel her tummy. You do that only with those that are closest to you and only if you are a touchy feely person. Teyla is NOT a touchy feely person. She's reaching out to him as if he's the father of her child. And when she realizes that he's not, she shudders and looks away. Almost regretting and shamefully and saddened.

He panics. He knows it in her eyes that she's suffering but he misinterprets her anguish as simply worrying for her child and for her safety and hence he springs to life and finds a way out. Only with Teyla would he do such things and act such ways. There are no boundaries and no limits to what he would do for her.

In the end, again, the clarity of their connection, the worrisome of her eyes, and the carefree to which they flow back to normal and spot in their friend instanty and again, insync that Ronon has something to hide in relation to Keller.

Even at the end, the writers continued the theme between these two. The comfortable established couple, the ones that lost themselves in a time when you would think they would cling to one another and the new and questionable couple that exhudes uncertainty, mistrust and no foundation but the simple fact that they are physically attracted to one another. John and Teyla are way beyond that. And have tested and passed the test that Rodney and Katie failed.

I paid very little attention to Carter and Zelenka.

YES!!! You hit the nail on the head!! That is what I guess is bittersweet to me. Does that make sense? Please some feedback please.

[Jeyla4ever]

YES!! I did!! I was especially SQUEEEEING during the

Spoiler:

SpideyShep parts!!!!! I can't help to think that all of these awesome JT scenes are somewhat bittersweet! You just know the tptb are going to do something to cause beyond a boatload of angst! Even possibly try to put a wedge between them. I still like what Jess and Sci had posted about her taking John's hand and placing on her belly to feel the baby kick. To me, that is a personal and intimate thing. It wasn't like the Budda belly rubbing moments that you do get when you are pregnant. I can't speak from experience but, I've had really close friends go through people coming up and rubbing their bellies for good luck!! But, the scene with our JT was not that at all by a long shot.

Yes, we will see that...

Spoiler:

what better angst than to have John now act like he's the surrogate father of this child believing that Kanan will never reappear and then have Teyla act this way around him to only leave him hanging when she does find Kanan!? And that will happen. I do believe that we will see Kanan. And for Teyla to continue to state that she's almost lost hope in finding Kanan, and turn to John, it is unfair. But that's what it looks like to me for now. It's almost as if they both wanted this level of intimacy between them but now, and this pregnancy has brought them to that next level, the only thing is that it's the wrong scenario because you would think that by this being another man's baby, that John would pull away. But in reality, in the abscense of Kanan, John and Teyla are getting closer and it will be interesting to see how Teyla reacts to this when she finally meets up with Kanan and how John will react as well,

Yes, the angst will be higher than ever and very sad indeed. For both John and Teyla because it's almost like the unfairness of it all.

[Jeyla4ever]

Hey Camy, where is the rest of my calander? I only have Jan then a few screenshots without dates for some more of the year... *holds a sign that has the following warning, "Will Hug Life Out of Beings if No Calander for Rest of Year is Given"* *gets closer to Camy*

Sweetie, be patient with me. I take forever to do things and I"m late with things, but I do deliver.