Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[Raelis]

There's a Sparky one, yes. It's got a swear word in it so let me put it in spoilers.

Spoiler:

http://****yeahsparky.tumblr.com/

Well, crap. The swear filter here removes it. It's the f word in front of "yeahsparky".

Over there I'm mathgirl24. You can look at my feed to see some of the people who create the Sparky stuff. I don't want to put that on here cause they're individual people and they might not want the attention.

Thank you very much! I'll go look at it!

[Falcon Horus]

*enjoying my "me"-evening*

Off to watch the new episode of Hawaii Five-O - Sparky on friends!

[JT-2]

Thank you very much! I'll go look at it!

Please follow me if you'd like. I always appreciate new followers.

Howdy, FH! Hope you enjoy your time.

[Raelis]

Please follow me if you'd like. I always appreciate new followers.

Howdy, FH! Hope you enjoy your time.

Oh, I don't have a Tumblr account... and I'm not sure I'm going to get one. It's too addictive. I just look at the pretty pictures. However, in case I can't resist Tumblr's siren song anymore and create an account, I will definitely follow you!

[poundpuppy29]

[Scary Kitty]

Good afternoon, Sparkies! Happy Smutty Tuesday!

I'm still Farscaping across the galaxy... ...skipping through the seasons watching episodes here and there.

Keeps my mind occupied so it can't return to the dark places it's been going lately. Made a big decision today that most likely will cost me my job (better to get fired then to resign but still the result will be the same).

Ack! Well, if it's what needs to be done, then it's what needs to be done. Hope things work out for you. *hugs*

There's a Sparky one, yes. It's got a swear word in it so let me put it in spoilers.

Spoiler:

http://****yeahsparky.tumblr.com/

Well, crap. The swear filter here removes it. It's the f word in front of "yeahsparky".

Over there I'm mathgirl24. You can look at my feed to see some of the people who create the Sparky stuff. I don't want to put that on here cause they're individual people and they might not want the attention.

Darnit, I guess I'm gonna have to go join Tumblr.

[Nolamom]

Sparky She-Demon requested this:

[drewandian]

I'm on Tumblr too...never realized there's a sparky tumblr i can follow (i don't poke around too much there)...gonna hafta check that out!

[Sequoia Hope]

Someone on Tumblr created these animated gifs of jealous John from Irresistible:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/41bd39455...gmrfo1_400.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/47ce06756...gmrfo3_250.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c9a3d9685...gmrfo2_250.gif


The way the camera panned was used to show jealousy. I remember an NCIS episode where Ziva was chatting up some guy and they did the exact same pan to Tony's similarly disgruntled face.

When I first watched that scene, I remember getting the impression that John was just impatient, as seen when he drums his fingers on the control console. But now, I look at those gifs, and I can see how it's plausible that John is displaying jealousy. He glares at both Elizabeth and Lucius, clearly not happy with either of them, and he presses his lips tightly together as he slouches back against the console. It's amazing how body language can convey so much.

Here's a question: if John had known that Elizabeth had gone out with Mike Branton in "Sunday," would he have been as jealous as he was in "Irresistable," or would he have hand-waved it aside? I once read a fic that took place after "Sunday," in which John was very questioning about why Elizabeth had gone out with Mike Branton. To me, it seemed a bit OOC; it didn't seem like John would be the type of person who would make such a big deal out of something that was already in the past and of no further concern to Elizabeth. I wonder if John was jealous in "Irresistable" more out of disgust by how Lucius was influencing everyone, including Elizabeth, around him than out of actual jealousy by how Elizabeth was being allured by a man with impure motives.

Sparky She-Demon requested this:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j5...handcuffs2.gif

Ooh, now that is just evil.

[JT-2]

I'm on Tumblr too...never realized there's a sparky tumblr i can follow (i don't poke around too much there)...gonna hafta check that out!

It has lots of fun pictures and stuff, but this thread is much better for chatting. I know some people chat on that, but it's not as easy (at least to me). Mine is about 40% Sparky, 40% Hunger Games, 10% Doctor Who, 5% cute animals, and then random other 5%.

Well, looking through my posts, maybe the cute animals percentage is higher.

When I first watched that scene, I remember getting the impression that John was just impatient, as seen when he drums his fingers on the control console. But now, I look at those gifs, and I can see how it's plausible that John is displaying jealousy. He glares at both Elizabeth and Lucius, clearly not happy with either of them, and he presses his lips tightly together as he slouches back against the console. It's amazing how body language can convey so much.

Yeah, it can definitely be read that way. It could be read either way, really. That's the beauty of subtle ship, as opposed to ship anvils. We can squee over it but fans of other ships can hand wave it away.

Here's a question: if John had known that Elizabeth had gone out with Mike Branton in "Sunday," would he have been as jealous as he was in "Irresistable," or would he have hand-waved it aside? I once read a fic that took place after "Sunday," in which John was very questioning about why Elizabeth had gone out with Mike Branton. To me, it seemed a bit OOC; it didn't seem like John would be the type of person who would make such a big deal out of something that was already in the past and of no further concern to Elizabeth. I wonder if John was jealous in "Irresistable" more out of disgust by how Lucius was influencing everyone, including Elizabeth, around him than out of actual jealousy by how Elizabeth was being allured by a man with impure motives.

Interesting question. I could imagine him being a little put out by it. I don't see him going crazy about it, but I can imagine some pointed questioning, especially if John had thought Elizabeth wouldn't date because of her authority position. That might lead him to think "well, then why not us?"

[JT-2]

That's awesome!!

[Falcon Horus]

Ack! Well, if it's what needs to be done, then it's what needs to be done. Hope things work out for you. *hugs*

Spoilered for OT-ness...

Spoiler:

Had a good talk with my supervisor today and learned that because of the position the company is in right now, someone has to go. She had to make the decision who that would be and I told her to put my name at the top. Normally that wouldn't have been possible since as the union rep one is protected from such measures for the duration of one's mandate, but I resigned from that on monday so I'm no longer under that protection. She seemed somewhat relieved to know that I willingly volunteered myself as the one to go if it comes to that. Next week thursday is the end of the month, so who knows it could also be my last day at my current job. With all I know right now, that does make me a wee bit anxious nonetheless.

With all that angst and being sick again... who knows, I might just write good fic.

In other news - bought two new fish.

[Southern Red]

When I first watched that scene, I remember getting the impression that John was just impatient, as seen when he drums his fingers on the control console. But now, I look at those gifs, and I can see how it's plausible that John is displaying jealousy. He glares at both Elizabeth and Lucius, clearly not happy with either of them, and he presses his lips tightly together as he slouches back against the console. It's amazing how body language can convey so much.

Here's a question: if John had known that Elizabeth had gone out with Mike Branton in "Sunday," would he have been as jealous as he was in "Irresistable," or would he have hand-waved it aside? I once read a fic that took place after "Sunday," in which John was very questioning about why Elizabeth had gone out with Mike Branton. To me, it seemed a bit OOC; it didn't seem like John would be the type of person who would make such a big deal out of something that was already in the past and of no further concern to Elizabeth. I wonder if John was jealous in "Irresistable" more out of disgust by how Lucius was influencing everyone, including Elizabeth, around him than out of actual jealousy by how Elizabeth was being allured by a man with impure motives.



Ooh, now that is just evil.

There has been much discussion about whether John is jealous or just peeved. Knowing the intent of the writers, I'm fairly certain he was not intentionally being jealous. But then, in S4 he was supposedly jealous of Kanaan, and that seemed even less obvious than this. So, it's all up to the interpretation of the viewer. I want him to be jealous but rationally I have to think he's just about had it with all of them and that's the emotion he's displaying.

On Mike Branton, I'm sure that it would be very OOC of John to bring that up with Elizabeth. When did we ever see him interfere in anyone's personal life? And as careful as he was to preserve his own privacy, I don't think he would ever have said anything to her. If it had been brought up to him, maybe by Rodney, he would have said it was none of his business and put a stop to the conversation. John held everything close to the vest, so he would just keep his opinion to himself.

There is a fine line for a shipper between what is logical and what we wished had been true. We blur that line a lot, which is fine. That's what shippers do. We imagine what we wanted to be true, and ignore the reality of what the writers and actors intended to show us. And I'm fine with that, BTW.

Spoilered for OT-ness...

Spoiler:

Had a good talk with my supervisor today and learned that because of the position the company is in right now, someone has to go. She had to make the decision who that would be and I told her to put my name at the top. Normally that wouldn't have been possible since as the union rep one is protected from such measures for the duration of one's mandate, but I resigned from that on monday so I'm no longer under that protection. She seemed somewhat relieved to know that I willingly volunteered myself as the one to go if it comes to that. Next week thursday is the end of the month, so who knows it could also be my last day at my current job. With all I know right now, that does make me a wee bit anxious nonetheless.

With all that angst and being sick again... who knows, I might just write good fic.

In other news - bought two new fish.

I hope it works out for you and you have some good new prospects. What did you name your fish?

[Falcon Horus]

I hope it works out for you and you have some good new prospects. What did you name your fish?

I hope it does.

My new fish are a couple, and I named them Sid & Nancy. Actually my sister named them that, after the Diictadons from the British show Primeval (not after the punkrockers directly).

[Brie]

Hello everyone!

I really admire your decision FH and I know that things will work out for the best in the end.

Someone on Tumblr created these animated gifs of jealous John from Irresistible:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/41bd39455...gmrfo1_400.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/47ce06756...gmrfo3_250.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c9a3d9685...gmrfo2_250.gif

Awesome gifs.
That scene as many have said can defiantly be viewed in different ways. I do wonder if the jealousy part comes from the other moment on that episode when John reacts angrily when McKay tells him that Elizabeth is off making Lucius a sandwich, now this scene can also be viewed in different ways but I do feel personally that when you put those two scenes together then it’s not very surprising that people might wonder, but it’s not really out there like that so people can really view it either way.
That scene is also very similar to this scene from ‘Progeny’ but like with the other one there it can also be viewed in different ways.

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